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Old 09-22-2005, 07:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Suprised? Women are cleaner than men.

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Give women a hand -- they wash theirs, study finds

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WASHINGTON -- Men are dirtier than women. Scientists confirmed this by spying in public restrooms, watching as one-fourth of the men left without washing their hands.
The worst offenders were at an Atlanta Braves game.

In contrast, 90 percent of the women washed up.
Wednesday's results mark the American Society of Microbiology's latest look at how many people take what is considered the single easiest step to staying healthy: spending 20 seconds rubbing with soap under the faucet.
It also explains why infection experts use paper towels to open bathroom doors.
In 1996, the society first studied how often people wash up after using the toilet. Researchers lingered in public restrooms while surreptitiously counting. They concluded about one-third did not wash.
Every few years, the research is repeated. This time, 83 percent of people washed, reported Harris Interactive, which last month monitored more than 6,300 public restroom users for the society.
The worst hygiene was at Atlanta's Turner Field, where 37 percent of the men left the bathroom without washing and 16 percent of the women did.
Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry and Shedd Aquarium was among the cleanest, with only 12 percent of people leaving without washing.
Atlanta Braves fans don't wash up after themselves? Will the suprises never end...

Now I know it's okay to shake a ladies hand. I just hope that she is still willing to take mine.
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Researchers lingered in public restrooms while surreptitiously counting. They concluded about one-third did not wash.
Honestly... how do you stand around in a bathroom and count peeing people while not being super creepy/suspicious? I guess you could sit in a stall and listen-- [x] heard a flush but no wash.... but still...

On top of that, guys don't NEED to wash. That's why the whole "girls are cleaner" jabberwocky doesn't hold. Girls have to actually touch the peehole and consequently are inches from the poophole. If guys hold far enough back on the shaft and have good aim, there's really no contamination of the hands at all. Touching the peepee itself is no worse than touching your face..

I *NEVER* wash after peeing.
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Girls have to actually touch the peehole and consequently are inches from the poophole.

Strange... as far as I understood it most of them used toilet paper..... not their bare hands.
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Nonetheless, seepage and drippage and mis-alignment could occur, allowing direct skin contact with the leaking orifice. Not true with a carefully-engineering penis-shake.
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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taking that thing out of your pants, where it is nice and warm, and perfect for generating bacteria? You call that clean? it's not the urine that's dirty, it's the dick... and consequently the hand that pulls the dick out...
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Prove it. The penis is no dirtier than any other skin that is warm and can sweat (like your HANDS).
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:18 AM   #7 (permalink)
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I wash my hands all the time.

(I also play with my penis constantly, but I think that is a topic for a different thread)

A carefully engineered "Shake" does little for me. I feel better knowing that I used soap and water before leaving the bathroom.

I notice that when I use the sink, with soap and water, more men finishing after me use it too. The guys leaving before I am done often do not wash. Is it social peer pressure? I don't know.

I would like to rub my dick on a petrie dish and see what grew, but I fear the results would cause me to sterilize my genetalia daily, and that would probably hurt.

Hygeine in the Field: Wash your hands. It is that simple. Every time you see water and soap together, dive in and wash those hands.
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
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To sum up:

Vagina = Penis = Hands in terms of dirtyness. Both are pieces of skin which are warm and can sweat, and consequently have similar bacteria/virus present (very little). As a matter of fact, your hands are likely DIRTIER than your penis or vagina, as your penis or vagina is not rubbing against other "dirty" surfaces like using your hands necessitates.

In the case of the female, direct or indirect contact with urea or poopy is possible, even likely.

In the case of a male, contact with either bodily fluid is very unlikely (provided an adequate shake procedure is followed).

Therefore, men are cleaner than women.
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:20 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Jinn is right, with regular bathing habits, proper aim, and proper shakage, I don't wash my hands 50% of the time when I piss. Taking a ducer is another though, 100% of the time.
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:24 AM   #10 (permalink)
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A Harvard man and a Yale man are at the urinal. They finish and zip up. The Harvard man proceeds to the sink to wash his hands, while the Yale man immediately makes for the exit.

The Harvard man says, "At Hah-vahd they teach us to wash our hands after we urinate."

The Yale man replies, "At Yale they teach us not to piss on our hands."
It's a joke, but it's oh-so-true.

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Oh, and...

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I never wash my hands
It’s a waste of time, and I don’t believe in sanitation
by Kristin Hillery, Managing Editor


Hey now, just because I’m being totally honest about my beliefs doesn’t mean you have to stop reading already and label me as a filthy person. I know for a fact that I’m not the only one in the entire world who doesn’t see the point in washing their hands after using the restroom, and there are some excellent reasons for having this opinion. I’ve thought long and hard about my decision to abstain from hand washing, and I know you’ll agree that not only is it a waste of time, but it’s a hazard to your health.

Think about the average public restroom for a moment. It’s nothing more than the fairgrounds for a parasite and germ carnival! They’re all over the place, waiting to go for a ride on your index finger or inner thigh and infect your insides with some kind of nastified illness. The little heathens form an invisible, evil sheet over everything in the bathroom, from the toilets to the ceiling tiles, and you cannot avoid them — even if you squat as you pee.

People are under the impression that washing your hands after emptying your bowels and bladder will protect you from becoming infected with a previous bathroom patron’s strep throat or scabies, but they are sorely mistaken. By the time you’ve dried your hands, you have already re-infected yourself with even more germs. They flew to your fingers as you touched the knob of the faucet to turn the water off, and they scrambled to safety under your fingernails as you pressed down on the lever to get paper towels. And you probably touched the door handle on your way out of the bathroom. Big mistake: they were there, too. This means you left the restroom with even more germs on your body than you would have if you had gone for a swim in a diarrhea pool that someone barfed in.

So why bother with lathering up after you’ve done your business? Sure, it’s a bit uncomfortable walking straight out the door from the stall when someone is at the counter washing their hands, but remember that it’s only awkward because they haven’t yet realized that what they’re doing is completely pointless and possibly detrimental to their health. If you have trouble dealing with their ignorant judgments, you can always stand at the sink and pretend like you’re washing your hands by rubbing them together without actually turning the water on. You can then walk out of the bathroom knowing that you’ve successfully avoided acquiring bajillions of germs, and you haven’t wasted your time doing something as ridiculous as being sanitary.
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Prove it. The penis is no dirtier than any other skin that is warm and can sweat (like your HANDS).

Hands are exposed to the air consistantly, and therefore have less of a change for bacteria build to up. The crotch is a closed confined space that is moist. Underarms are similarly protected and breeding grounds for bacteria.

Prove it? I don't have to. I just wont shake hands.

Urine is considered to be sterile fluid, unless it is contaminated by a bladder/urinary tract infection.
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:44 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I wash, but before urinals and sinks were invented, mankind seemed to survive fine without them.

We need some germs sometime.
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:55 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Jinn: you're making me physically feel a little ill. It's like this, as far as I can tell. Note, I've done no studies on this:

1. You go in, and you pee the first time. You put up your pecker, and walk out. (Touching the same door handle that I have to use to get out, thanks)

2. Your dick, being the crazy monster it is, is constantly retracting, extending, moving around, sweating...and all that piss that you just dropped off didn't make it out...some of it is secreting out of the mighty dolphin.

3. That piss, and that sweat, will mix together to form a thin piss/sweat sheen all over your dick.

4. You go in a pee the second time. You hold nice and far back. You tap him a couple of times. You sling him around. You put him up. You take a deep breath.

5. You walk out, using the same door handle that I have to use to get out, thanks.

Now, let's say you think that your particular penis is like an autoclaved scapel. Very small people could eat off of it. Do you think *no one* gets god knows what all over that puppy, and then they say "Jinn's not washing. Crap, I'm not washing either." It's a particular habit I am more than happy to encourage others to pick up. Yeah, there's snot and all kinds of crap all over the place on door handles and desks...but think about the fragility of my mind, man....I beg you!!! I just don't want to put my hand all in some of your dicksweatpee butter.

I'm going to go wash in Listerine really quick.
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I wash, but before urinals and sinks were invented, mankind seemed to survive fine without them.

We need some germs sometime.
When I think of all the thousands of humans throughout the past millenia or so who have suffered, passed on that suffering to others, and died because of diseases and whatnot that could have easily been eliminated through basic soap and water hygiene...(whew! long sentence there!).

Do not fear the hot soapy water! It's a luxury (historically speaking), indulge whydontcha?
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:17 AM   #15 (permalink)
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BAHAHAHAHAHAH! *wipes nonexistant "penis-germs" all over this thread*

Honestly -- germs are good for us. Without them, our immune system would never develop beyond infantile stages, and we'd end up in a bubble to protect us from the horrible horrible cold bacteria. I'd rather have a virus in small doses (a little from the bathroom door here, a little from this public access terminal keyboard there) that doesn't make me ill than that same virus in a concentrated fuckton that makes me vomit up my innards. Speaking of which, that's HOW immunizations work..

Aside from hangover-induced illness, I've never had a "sick day" at work that actually reflected me being sick. Likewise, I had perfect attendance in high school? Why? Becuase I was unsanitary without having bad hygeine, and I got a healthy (minor) dose of viruses. When I did get "sick," it was only a cough or two instead of a head-smashing blood-spitting hackfest..
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:20 AM   #16 (permalink)
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So Jinn,

Let's say you were enjoying a nice tall glass of lemonade. And I dropped by and used my pud for a stirring straw, all the while relaxing over some quaint conversation about the weather and so on. You'd just gulp that shit down? Or maybe if I rubbed a Pepperidge Farm Milano cookie all over my sack, and then dropped it off on your plate. You'd think : "Damn, I bet that guy's dick is 99.9999% clean, with some extra germs to boost my immune system. Damn that's a hell of a cookie.."

or would you be trying to extract your shoe from my ass?
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:22 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Now I'm not advocating licking the floor and devouring human excrement, but no -- I wouldnt have a problem eating a cookie you handed me, knowing you'd just been to the bathroom. If you actually rubbed the cookie ON the junk, that's a whole different story.
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:23 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Just because chicks wash their hands more, does not make them cleaner. There are other factors, like how clean you keep your bathroom and how much of a mess you make in public washrooms. Many of my female friends talk about how disgusting the female washrooms are in clubs and other public places. My own lady don't keep the bathroom as clean as I do. That goes double for the kitchen. Beyond my own personal experiences, my general impression from talking to friends is that women are dirtier.

Of course that's hardly a scientific investigation...
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:27 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Well, Jinn, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree...one quick rule. If by some odd chance we're ever eating cookies together, you're allowed to handle cookies destined for my mouth between the time of your most recent shower and your first bathroom break. After that, no more!!!

And aberkok - yeah, I've known some downright filthy females. When I used to live with females, I used to notice that little red spot that would appear on the lip of the toilet every so often, and of course, I'd nearly faint with half a chode hanging out the delivery bay. I will say this: the ones I've lived with have invariably been better dusters than I. Very non-scientific sample.

edit Jinn, that cookie you wouldn't mind eating in your example above...is the exact same cookie that you'd find in your sofa cushions three months later if our positions were reversed
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:27 AM   #20 (permalink)
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This thread topic misled me into looking in here. It's all mostly concerned with toilet related habits.

I was hoping to find out something else ...i.e., why my wife is a slob and leaves things laying around when it would be just as easy to put them away properly right from the start. I love her dearly, but either she has a perceptual problem and doesn't even see this stuff or she's a basic slob. However, she does wash her hands often enough and takes a shower every day which is more than I can say about myself.
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:30 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I like to call people like your wife "lateral organizers." I'm a proud member of this class myself.
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:47 AM   #22 (permalink)
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First of all, Jinn... "mis-alignment?"

Second, for your consideration, a little ditty from uncle that's stuck with me all these years...

"No matter how much shake, no matter how much you dance, a wee bit of piss always ends up in your pants."

Personally, I almost always wash my hands when I'm in the bathroom, for whatever reason.
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:52 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Jinn, that cookie you wouldn't mind eating in your example above...is the exact same cookie that you'd find in your sofa cushions three months later if our positions were reversed
And I'd eat it!!!@
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Old 09-22-2005, 10:10 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I know for a fact that several guys in my building don't wash their hands after using the bathroom. I always follow the "ten second" rule, soap, warm water for at least 10 seconds. I also use the paper towel to open the door.

Hats off to the ladies, guys, we need to catch up on our personal hygiene!
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Old 09-22-2005, 10:26 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Funny, I ALWAYS wash my hands in a public restroom, but not always at home. I can't figure that out...*scratches head*
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Old 09-22-2005, 10:29 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 09-22-2005, 10:38 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I have seen way to many guys do the shake, stuff it in their pants, and seconds later there's a tiny wet spot on the undies. Besides I've seen shakes end up with piss on shirts, or on the floor way too many times. I think it's just lazy that I guy won't use a tiny bit of TP to wipe it. If I were a guy I can't imagine not wiping.

I'm sorry but if I notice you've not washed after shaking I'm not gonna be all too eager to even shake hands.

Leaving the bathroom with a towel to open the door - All depends on if there's a trashcan nearby. If it's on the other side of the bathroom and I can't reach while propping the door open, or if I'm not aware of a trashcan on the other side somewhere then I won't use the papertowel. I will however use the pinky of my left hand to pull it open. Depending on the apparent cleanliness of the bathroom I'll use a wipe after leaving - I keep wipes in my purse at all times.
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Old 09-22-2005, 10:45 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I always use paper towel to open the door if possible in public restrooms...and if I say "nesting" in the context of public restroom use, how many of y'all know what I'm talking about?

/Jinn, put your hand down...
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:19 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:29 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:53 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I have seen way to many guys do the shake, stuff it in their pants, and seconds later there's a tiny wet spot on the undies. Besides I've seen shakes end up with piss on shirts, or on the floor way too many times. I think it's just lazy that I guy won't use a tiny bit of TP to wipe it. If I were a guy I can't imagine not wiping.

I'm sorry but if I notice you've not washed after shaking I'm not gonna be all too eager to even shake hands.

Leaving the bathroom with a towel to open the door - All depends on if there's a trashcan nearby. If it's on the other side of the bathroom and I can't reach while propping the door open, or if I'm not aware of a trashcan on the other side somewhere then I won't use the papertowel. I will however use the pinky of my left hand to pull it open. Depending on the apparent cleanliness of the bathroom I'll use a wipe after leaving - I keep wipes in my purse at all times.
raeanna74 says she's seen way too many guys shaking their cocks after peeing. Hmmmm, so raeanna where did you see all this?
Because apart from 2 girlfriends I've never seen a lady on the toilet and then afterwards and I've been out with more than 20

Condescending commentary "adjusted"...BOR
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Old 09-22-2005, 01:40 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I always wash my hands. It's icky (note: not saying whether or not it's HYGENIC) if you don't. Would you shake hands with someone that just jacked off without washing their hands? I certainly wouldn't. It's the same concept.
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Old 09-22-2005, 02:09 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Go to work in the medical/healthcare field and it'll be drilled into the farthest depths of your brain to wash your hands ALWAYS. I don't see how some people can sit here and say they don't need to wash up after using the bathroom.

Paper towel to turn the faucet on (discard)
Wet hands
Paper towel to pump soap out of dispenser (discard)
Wash hands (keep hands pointed downwards to wash off scum/bacteria)
Paper towel to turn faucet off (discard)
Paper towel to pat hands dry (discard)

I do this every time I use the bathroom, and if it's a door you can push open, I push it open with the bottom of my shoe.
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Old 09-22-2005, 02:36 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I've been in public restrooms where I am sure my dick was among the cleaner things in the room. At any rate, I usually tend to wash my hands after a piss but if a lavatory isn't available I'm not going to treat my hands as hazardous materials either.

If one is afforded the opportunity to be civilized great. But as has been mentioned, we crawled out of the caves with our dirty dicks and hands and made it this far.
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Old 09-22-2005, 02:37 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I do the same as Sue-paper towel first to turn on the water, cover my hands in soap before using said water, then paper towel to shut it off and another to dry. With those dispensers with the handle, I get a towel ready and hanging first-of course, some really dumb women think I've done that for them, which means I have to start all over- 'uh, you saw me get the towel ready, why are YOU taking it and using it?' I also carry anti-bacterial hand cream in my purse and waterless wash in both cars.
Working with kids for 3 years, I was sick from October to June each year, including two flus and pneumonia. Overkill? maybe.
I will say though, that study should have checked the booths in ladies' rooms. Women ARE slobs.Many cover the seats in pee and don't clean it up, they don't flush, they toss unwrapped used 'hygiene products' in the little pails provided....A booth in a ladies' room is like "Let's Make a Deal". You never know what's behind those doors.
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Old 09-22-2005, 02:45 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Honestly... how do you stand around in a bathroom and count peeing people while not being super creepy/suspicious? I guess you could sit in a stall and listen-- [x] heard a flush but no wash.... but still...

On top of that, guys don't NEED to wash. That's why the whole "girls are cleaner" jabberwocky doesn't hold. Girls have to actually touch the peehole and consequently are inches from the poophole. If guys hold far enough back on the shaft and have good aim, there's really no contamination of the hands at all. Touching the peepee itself is no worse than touching your face..

I *NEVER* wash after peeing.

Bingo, why is touching your dick any worse than your me touching my arm? Besides, touching the paper towel dispenser and door handle is probably worse.

Girls need to wash because they have to wipe, guys don't. Simple as that.
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Old 09-22-2005, 02:57 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Girls need to wash because they have to wipe, guys don't. Simple as that.[/QUOTE]

Guys don't poop????
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Old 09-22-2005, 03:19 PM   #38 (permalink)
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^^ I was talking about when taking a piss, as that is what I quoted.
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Old 09-22-2005, 04:04 PM   #39 (permalink)
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as you were...but please, wash your hands first!!
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Old 09-22-2005, 10:30 PM   #40 (permalink)
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You don't wash your hands after using the bathroom to remove urine. Urine is sterile. It won't hurt you to get it all over your hands or anything else. This is why we ladies are taught to wipe front to back (or better, pat, or even better, use a bidet) and not the other direction. Getting a little urine in your vagina or anus is harmless. Icky, but harmless. Getting some fecal matter in your vagina or urinary tract is setting yourself up for a nasty infection.

The skin in your nether regions, for both the ladies and the fellas, is not like the skin on the rest of your body. It is swimming in some truly nasty bugs called coliform bacteria. But, you say, you wash thoroughly every morning. Doesn't matter. You clean off the surface, but those that are down in the pores are still there, waiting to hop on for a ride when you touch just about anything down there.

When you wash, this is the order it should be done in:

1. Use a paper towel to turn on the water and adjust it.
2. Wet hands.
3. Add soap. Lather thoroughly.
4. Scrub thoroughly for at least 15-20 seconds. Get fronts and backs, palms, and between the fingers.
5. Dry hands thoroughly using a paper towel. It's more sanitary than even a hands free electric dryer. Make sure your hands are completely dry. Bacteria and viruses like wet hands a lot better than dry.
6. Turn off the water with the paper towel. If you're in a modern bathroom, it's probably automatic.
7. Open the door with a paper towel. What I usually do is open the door with the paper towel, prop it open with my foot, and drop the towel in the trash.

For a double whammy, get your alchohol based gel hand sanitizer out of your purse, and sanitize with it (guys may have difficulty with this one).

The hand sanitizer is both better and worse than hand washing. It kills a ton of the bacteria, but washing with soapy water will remove more than the sanitizer kills. Using both is like using a sand blaster.

At home, I dispense with the use of use the towel on the door knob, because I know that it gets cleansed daily, and because the bathroom door is pretty much never closed.

Anti-bacterial soap is a scam. It does kill some of the bacteria, but the purposes of washing isn't to kill them, it's to remove them. The bacteria will be clinging to the oils in your hands, and washing with soapy water will remove the surface oils, taking the bacteria with them.

Ya gotta do it after using the restroom, before preparing food, and before eating.

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