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Old 04-05-2005, 12:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Breast Cancer Survivors Now Own the Color Pink

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2030367

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FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. -- Arkansas coach Houston Nutt said that players caught loafing will no longer wear pink jerseys during practices in an effort to avoid offending breast cancer survivors.

Nutt received negative reaction from people when they saw the players in the pink jerseys. Breast cancer survivors and their supporters often wear pink ribbons, and the nationwide Race for the Cure, which raises funds for breast cancer research, uses the color pink as well.

"That's the last thing I want to do, is to offend a cancer victim, someone who I know how strong and brave they are," Nutt said. "That was the last thing on our mind, to discredit somebody who has shown a lot of toughness. I've had members of my family who had cancer."

Nutt said the coaches are considering another color, possibly burnt orange, the color of Arkansas rival Texas.

How could the breast cancer survivors be OFFENDED because of the use of a pink jersey? So they made pink ribbons, are people not allowed to use pink because of that?
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What in the hell? So can someone not wear yellow (colour of military) because they're relaxing? Sounds like a bunch of ridiculous shit.
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It doesn't say that cancer survivors were giving them hell about it. Not directly anyway. Even if they are I don't see how any one group can claim a color. Sure you associate colors with a certain group often times but they don't own the rights to it. I guess I can't wear my pink Volcom shirt because it might offend someone..wait..that's even more reason to wear it. Besides, if a color is assoicated with a certain group then they should be happy that people wear it. It's a form of marketing.
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Wait, I thought the gays had pink.

Or did they move onto the Rainbow?

Eitherway, I'll wear what I choose and ignore the PC oversensitivity.
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Old 04-05-2005, 01:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I absolutely don't mind. I'm a survivor, and i find this overly PC attitude disturbing. (petite, why is yellow a military colour?)
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Old 04-05-2005, 01:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I absolutely don't mind. I'm a survivor, and i find this overly PC attitude disturbing. (petite, why is yellow a military colour?)
"Support our Troops"....sound familiar?
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Old 04-05-2005, 01:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm with you guys, the people making the complaints are ridiculous, though I do have respect for the coach that rather than make an issue out of it he decided to change the color out of respect for the cancer survivors and owing to the negative connotation that the pink jerseys had, at least he could be mature about it, that or he's just covering his ass.
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Old 04-05-2005, 02:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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On the reading this article, first thing I did was click the link to look for an April 1st date-stamp.
Unfortunately it is dated the 5th.


At least this guy 'Nutt' has an appropriate name.


EDIT: At least it looks like this was the work of some lone lunatic, rather than some committee or pressure group. We have that to be thankful for at least. I guess.
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Old 04-05-2005, 02:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Im just wondering how much it would suck to be in pink jersies. lacks... um... intimidating atributres in my opinion.
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Old 04-05-2005, 08:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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This is painfully stupid. By this logic, anyone wearing black is belittling Columbine victims (after all, the kids that committed the crime wore black a lot, so there has to be a connection), anyone wearing blue is belittling the tsunami victims (well, water's blue, there's a connection)...

Some people just have a major conspiracy bug up their ass that turns every minor thing into a major offense.

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Eitherway, I'll wear what I choose and ignore the PC oversensitivity.
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Old 04-05-2005, 09:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well...even if it seemingly makes no sense, what so ever, I hope it makes someone happy.

I could actually see someone saying they'll stop making slackers wear pink because that's saying a "girl's color" (and thus girls) represent weakness.

That I could see. For me, innocent as I am, pink is a girl's color.
Baby boy=blue
Baby Girl= pink.
(As both are very wrinkley, sometimes color coding is required.)

(Think of the possibilities there! Color coding people! If you're voted an idiot by your peers, you wear brown (because your head is up your ass); if you're mean or short tempered you wear red; if you're cool and collected you get blue; if you're excited all the time you get yellow; etc.)

Now, if these guys are slacking and having to wear pink, it must be because "girls wear pink, and you're wearing pink becuase you act like a girl." Right? That's what this is really about, I think. The whole breast cancer thing is some dumbass who got in a tiff over some imagined BS and complained. Then the idiots didn't just say "nope, I'm not seeing the connection."

However, if someone had complained becuase punishing boys by making them wear a girl's color was offensive, I can actually see the point. Maybe not agree totally, but see it.

This however? Ass stupid.
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Old 04-05-2005, 09:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Ass stupid.
I like it. "Ass stupid." I'll go with that.
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Old 04-06-2005, 06:17 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I chalk this one up to "don't feed the lawyers"
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Old 04-06-2005, 06:39 AM   #14 (permalink)
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"Support our Troops"....sound familiar?

I'm with Janey here. What are you talking about? I thought yellow was the colour of cowardice, how does that support the "troops?"
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Old 04-06-2005, 07:59 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm with Janey here. What are you talking about? I thought yellow was the colour of cowardice, how does that support the "troops?"
For those not in the US, our country has been invaded by little magnetic ribbons plastered all over peoples' cars

http://auctionfire.com/cgi-bin/aucti...1113278930.jpg

It's an easy way to show your support by buying something that most likely came from Taiwan and does not acutally support the troops in any way. I fell that if the best way you can think of to support any cause is a bumper sticker or magnet, then you should just leave it off to avoid cheapening your belief by turning it into a stupid fashion statement.
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Old 04-06-2005, 08:22 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Hey - I wanna be offended that the coach makes boys wear pink when they slack off. Pink is a girls color -- does he think girls are weak? Not as good as boys are?

/me is offended
/me calls lawyer
/me calls ACLU
/me calls jerry Springer and Montel Williams
/me calls Gloria Steinam

Why not make 'em wear a tie dye t-shirt - a la Jerry Garcia... Jerry was all about kickin back and taking it easy.... but would that offend stoners? cant have that... Do stoners get offended?
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Old 04-06-2005, 08:26 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Yellow is also a symbol of a soldier coming home. There is a song about it. Tie A Yellow Ribbon Around The Old Oak Tree or something like that. I know when my dad came home from the first Gulf War my mom put yellow ribbons on all the trees in the yard.
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Old 04-06-2005, 08:35 AM   #18 (permalink)
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The song is about a guy coming home from prison...
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And I have to know what is or isn't mine
If you received my letter
Telling you I'd soon be free
Then you'd know just what to do
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Old 04-06-2005, 08:38 AM   #19 (permalink)
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How could the breast cancer survivors be OFFENDED because of the use of a pink jersey? So they made pink ribbons, are people not allowed to use pink because of that?

I dunno, but I don't like the mentality in this country that if something trivial and insignificant offends someone, we have to STOP.

No no, on the contrary. If someone is offended by something stupid like this, you're supposed to do it more... and harder.
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Old 04-06-2005, 10:06 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Old 04-06-2005, 10:48 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The way I see it, to be blunt, pink has been a "pussy" color longer then a cancer color. They need to have a big glass of "suck it up" and mover the fuck on. I hate this PC shit.
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Wow. It's just a colour. I guess this means there will be a lot of rappers offending these people as well.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:18 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I call dibs on the color Green!

Oh, and I got shotgun!


So, is Barbie going rogue now?
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:48 AM   #24 (permalink)
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So, is Barbie going rogue now?
No, of couse not. Go back and check your collection Fremen, she's calling it 'mauve' now...................
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Old 04-08-2005, 07:41 AM   #25 (permalink)
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For generations, coaches, PE teachers, drill sargents and other men in positions of authority over young men, have been calling those young men who don't measure up "girls" and "ladies" as a form of insult, a way of saying they're not as good as the others. It ties into two perceptions about the sexes in our culture. The first is that women are inferior to men in athletics and certain other endeavors of a physical nature. This is on average, true; the typical adolescent and adult male has physical advantages over the typical female in sports, and the top males outperform the top females in nearly all types of athletic competition (with the notable exception of ultra long distance swimming, where women dominate).

Boys who cry or show too much soft emotion after a certain age are also belittled by referring to them in a feminine way. Sometimes, it's overt, as in calling a boy a little girl. Mostly though, it comes in a slightly more subtle way. What do we call a boy who cries easily when hurt? A "sissy", which is a variant form of the word "sister". Sometimes a girl's name is used overtly, as in calling a boy a "Nancy". In other words, an inadequate boy is the same as a girl. Again, there is some basis in reality for this assertion. Girls are more free to cry or express joy in public than are boys, so labeling a boy in this way is, at least on a denotative level, somewhat accurate.

However, these ways of labeling boys aren't value neutral. Each carries with it the implication that girls are inferior to boys in a general way, that the macho way of doing things isn't just different from a feminine way, but inherently better.

Putting pink jersies on the lazy players, the slackers, is a not too subtle variant form of calling an inadequate boy a girl, and by doing this, they're implying that girls are lazy. That's the only part of this that I find offensive. The idea that anything pink automatically is a reference to pink ribbons and thus, breast cancer is reaching a bit far. It would make as much sense to say that the pink represented a pink triangle, ie, none. The pink jersies clearly mean "female" in this case, which is mildly offensive, but, I think, harmless.
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Old 04-08-2005, 07:52 AM   #26 (permalink)
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"Support our Troops"....sound familiar?

not really familiar. But I think that you're referring to the 'tie a yellow ribbon' campaign that started with the Iran hostage crisis in the US. so now it kinda make sense.

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Old 04-08-2005, 07:54 AM   #27 (permalink)
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For those not in the US, our country has been invaded by little magnetic ribbons plastered all over peoples' cars

http://auctionfire.com/cgi-bin/aucti...1113278930.jpg

It's an easy way to show your support by buying something that most likely came from Taiwan and does not acutally support the troops in any way. I fell that if the best way you can think of to support any cause is a bumper sticker or magnet, then you should just leave it off to avoid cheapening your belief by turning it into a stupid fashion statement.
Sorry, I was being typical American and assuming everyone knew exactly what those sticker things are. Ugh.
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Old 04-08-2005, 07:56 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Yellow is also a symbol of a soldier coming home. There is a song about it. Tie A Yellow Ribbon Around The Old Oak Tree or something like that. I know when my dad came home from the first Gulf War my mom put yellow ribbons on all the trees in the yard.

with the midi melody sample:

http://www.geocities.com/holidaysfun/ribbon.html

I always thought the song was ab out a guy comming home from jail (a la the lyrics:

It's been three long years
Do ya still want me?
If I don't see a ribbon round the old oak tree
I'll stay on the bus
Forget about us
Put the blame on me
If I don't see a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree


(put the blame on me)
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Old 04-08-2005, 07:57 AM   #29 (permalink)
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One thing I like saying to all the PC-types out there..

How do you know the coaches aren't feeding the boys compliments by labelling them members of hte opposite sex, hm? Perhaps all the inequality is just in your head?
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One thing I like saying to all the PC-types out there..

How do you know the coaches aren't feeding the boys compliments by labelling them members of hte opposite sex, hm? Perhaps all the inequality is just in your head?
Context. The players wearing the pink tops (symbolically calling them girls) were wearing them as punishment for being lazy.
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Old 04-09-2005, 03:50 AM   #31 (permalink)
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well.... it could be a compliment, after all these "lazy" boys may have learned the old rule that hard work is rewarding after years of effort, but laziness pays off dividends immediately.

So they could be receiving compliments from the coach for learning one of life's lessons, and therefore the inequality IS all in our heads (as per hulk).
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