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mokle · 03-28-2005, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Seanland

sry, i meant to say radar detectors, shit we flash each other here all the time

Radar detectors are legal in Alberta, British Columbia, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Saskatchewan.

Luckily we have no photo radar here in BC, I'm usually driving 20+ over the limit.

03-29-2005, 02:43 AM

why cant people just follow the law and drive under the speed limit,do you really save a lot of time by speeding? as a pedestrian Id feel safer . you want to put your own life at risk thats your business but when on the roads with other people , follow the rules.

Do you have to injure someone before you wake up!!Sorry but I hate people who get behind the wheel of a car and think they're the king of the road .

mokle · 03-29-2005, 02:47 AM

I'm more scared of the other people on the road. I'll be drivig 20+ over, zipping past cars where the drivers are on a phone, drinking coffee, listening to music louder than hell, reading, putting on makeup, etc...

Those are the drivers that are unsafe. 110% of your attention should be focussed on driving if you're behind the wheel. Putting on cruise control and keeping the wheel straight doesn't cut it.

And yes, driving fast saves considerable time.

darkangel · 03-29-2005, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lin

why cant people just follow the law and drive under the speed limit,do you really save a lot of time by speeding? as a pedestrian Id feel safer . you want to put your own life at risk thats your business but when on the roads with other people , follow the rules.

Do you have to injure someone before you wake up!!Sorry but I hate people who get behind the wheel of a car and think they're the king of the road .

This reminds me of something that pisses me off. I used to speed a lot, and I learned my lesson by getting 2 monster tickets in one week. Now I try to do the limit as much as I can. What makes me mad is when I'm doing the limit, or a little over, and there's some car baring down on me from behind. Then in some sort of rage, they switch lanes and speed 10 clicks over me, and then get back into my lane. (This usually happens on one particular road). The stop sign in only a minute ahead and we arrive at the same point at near the same time. So why speed around me then? I was already speeding and that wasn't good enough? My own passenger also gets mad if I don't do 15 over. Sorry buddy, but with no income I'm not even going to risk getting some tickets.

shakran · 03-29-2005, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lin

why cant people just follow the law and drive under the speed limit,do you really save a lot of time by speeding? as a pedestrian Id feel safer . you want to put your own life at risk thats your business but when on the roads with other people , follow the rules.

Do you have to injure someone before you wake up!!Sorry but I hate people who get behind the wheel of a car and think they're the king of the road .

Well as a pedestrian you shouldn't be wandering around on the interstate, which is where I speed. And if I do see someone walking - disabled car, work crew, whatever, I slow down and move as far away from them as I can.

We have to get rid of the mentality that speed is the killer. It's not. It's poor driver training and driver distraction. You get someone that only had to parallel park and drive slow in a parking lot to get his license, then get him eating a burger, talking on the cell phone, and watching the GPS display in his car, and I guarantee you he's a lot more dangerous at 10 under than I am at 30 over.

darkangel · 03-29-2005, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shakran

Well as a pedestrian you shouldn't be wandering around on the interstate, which is where I speed. And if I do see someone walking - disabled car, work crew, whatever, I slow down and move as far away from them as I can.

We have to get rid of the mentality that speed is the killer. It's not. It's poor driver training and driver distraction. You get someone that only had to parallel park and drive slow in a parking lot to get his license, then get him eating a burger, talking on the cell phone, and watching the GPS display in his car, and I guarantee you he's a lot more dangerous at 10 under than I am at 30 over.

I saw once a driver on a 3 lane very high traffic cramped mini-highway with a leaping dog on his lap.. I'd be surprised if he made it home with no problems.

MSD · 03-29-2005, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kutulu

No offense, but that seems like the typical Libertarian response - don't do anything about a problem until after the problem has gotten out of hand. How are we supposed to make a judgement call on whether a person is a safe driver under your proposed system? Do we wait until the driver causes a wreck and then do somehting about him?

I'm not offended. That is the typical libertarian response. What I'd really like to see is a complete retraining of every driver in the country, but I doubt that it's going to happen. Without knowing my full thoughts on the subject, it does seem naive, and almost idiotic. What I think should happen is that we should overhaul our interstate highway system, with the basics being that two out of every three exits/entrances are closed, entrance/exit ramps are lengthened to the point that even a fully laden yugo can get up to speed to merge safely, and implement a drive-right system that is strictly enforced (if you're not passing, move right.) I think that if people are forced to be more considerate in exchange for the privelege of using a more efficient highway system, the overall situation will improve. As for how we tell someone is a safe driver, we can take the cops who were handing out tickets that do nothing to solve the problem, and have them patrol in unmarked cars, watching the fast lane for people who can't control a car properly at high speeds, fail to take the presence of other cars into account, and observe drivers instead of ticketing them for doing something that may or may not be safe.

Of course, there are some things on which only the most extreme libertarians (anarchist types) would dsiagree with me. I feel that anyone who speeds or drives recklessly through a construction zone or school zone (when there are students present) should be greeted with an immediate license revocation for a minimum of three months in addition to a high fine (which must be paid in full before teh license is reissued. The same goes for drunk driving. If you are observed driving errtically, and a test confirms that you have been drinking, it is logical to assume that you are too intoxicated to drive safely and your license should be revoced for a while ("Go sit in the corner and think about what you did.)"

Hopefully, after some explanation, you'll think I'm a bit more reasonable than you did before. If not, my self-applied label of "asshole libertarian" is well-deserved.

CrAzEd · 03-29-2005, 06:30 PM

They are going to such extreme lengths. On our street there was once a camera inside of a trash dumpster. There was a hole in the side of the dumpster, but people complained that it violated their rights, and it was removed

0energy0 · 03-30-2005, 11:22 AM

In boston, no one warns each other. We have alot of road rage here. It's terrible.

Anyways, if you go off the speed limit, say 2 mph over, you can still get a ticket. Ask any one of my friends. There should be something saying you can go +/- 5 mph of the speed limit.

kutulu · 03-30-2005, 11:31 AM

That is asinine. Tickets should never be issued unless a driver is more than 10 over. Equipment needs to be calibrated regularly for it to measure the driver's speed that accuratlely. In order for a driver's speed to be properly displayed in the car, the tires need to be inflated properly, they need the manufacturer's spec tires, and regular speedometer calibration.

rainheart · 03-30-2005, 01:34 PM

If you race someone on the streets while driving around this town, you flash your lights at each other at the end of the race as if to say 'good race' to one another.

That's the only light-flashing I know of which communicates an unconventional message.

03-29-2005, 02:47 AM	#43 (permalink)
mokle Psycho Location: Alberta, Canada	I'm more scared of the other people on the road. I'll be drivig 20+ over, zipping past cars where the drivers are on a phone, drinking coffee, listening to music louder than hell, reading, putting on makeup, etc... Those are the drivers that are unsafe. 110% of your attention should be focussed on driving if you're behind the wheel. Putting on cruise control and keeping the wheel straight doesn't cut it. And yes, driving fast saves considerable time. __________________ Mokle "Your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see" -Ali

03-30-2005, 11:22 AM	#49 (permalink)
0energy0 Insane Location: Title Town, USA	In boston, no one warns each other. We have alot of road rage here. It's terrible. Anyways, if you go off the speed limit, say 2 mph over, you can still get a ticket. Ask any one of my friends. There should be something saying you can go +/- 5 mph of the speed limit. __________________ Is the juice worth the squeeze?

03-29-2005, 02:43 AM	#42 (permalink)
Lin Guest	why cant people just follow the law and drive under the speed limit,do you really save a lot of time by speeding? as a pedestrian Id feel safer . you want to put your own life at risk thats your business but when on the roads with other people , follow the rules. Do you have to injure someone before you wake up!!Sorry but I hate people who get behind the wheel of a car and think they're the king of the road .

03-29-2005, 06:30 PM	#48 (permalink)
CrAzEd Upright	They are going to such extreme lengths. On our street there was once a camera inside of a trash dumpster. There was a hole in the side of the dumpster, but people complained that it violated their rights, and it was removed

03-30-2005, 11:31 AM	#50 (permalink)
kutulu Junkie	That is asinine. Tickets should never be issued unless a driver is more than 10 over. Equipment needs to be calibrated regularly for it to measure the driver's speed that accuratlely. In order for a driver's speed to be properly displayed in the car, the tires need to be inflated properly, they need the manufacturer's spec tires, and regular speedometer calibration.

03-30-2005, 01:34 PM	#51 (permalink)
rainheart Psycho	If you race someone on the streets while driving around this town, you flash your lights at each other at the end of the race as if to say 'good race' to one another. That's the only light-flashing I know of which communicates an unconventional message.