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Old 03-22-2005, 03:17 PM   #41 (permalink)
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and..teenagers are old enough to decide if they want to have sex or wait AFTER learning what the risks are and how to protect against them...otherwise isnt it like agreeeing to a job without knowing exactly what it is?
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Old 03-23-2005, 03:40 AM   #42 (permalink)
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when it comes down to it, i'm not so concerned with how many teenagers out there are having sex at what ages..
what does concern me is weither or not these kids are being responsable about it.. or at least not stupid

sex ed classes these days are a joke, theres no real education. it seems to me, that these classes aren't teaching anything these kids don't already know. What new information is there, is being taught in such a way that the students don't WANT to learn.

We all remember those horrible movies being shown in class.. the ones in crappy color and some white guy with an affro, who happened to knock somebody up, or contract some disease. After going through those sex ed classes, i never wanted to hear the words "gee wiz" ever again

if these classes were updated, using a little bit of common sense, i think it could help some of the problems we're having today. society can be as conservative and prudish as it wants, except in the area of education. if we aren't teaching, then they sure as hell aren't learning
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Old 03-27-2005, 07:12 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Here's two articles that speak more to my point than anything I've been able to say:

NYC recalls math guides riddled with errors

NEW YORK (AP) -- City officials recalled preparation material for math tests that had been sent to teachers after discovering they were filled with math and spelling mistakes.

The materials were designed for math students in grades 3 through 7, and had been sent to math coaches and local instructional superintendents. The errors were found late Wednesday before the guide reached classrooms.

Several answers in the guide were wrong. There were also sloppy diagrams and improper notation of exponents. There were at least 18 errors in the guide, and grammar and spelling issues proved just as problematic as the math. For example, the word "fourth" was misspelled on the cover of the 4th-grade manual.

School officials blamed the mistakes on an ineffective fact-checker.

"We have a clear protocol for review of all materials," Carmen Farina, deputy chancellor for teaching and learning, said in a statement. "In this case, a member of my staff inexcusably failed to follow our protocol, and I have written a letter of reprimand to the person's file. We recalled the materials within hours, corrections to the guide will be made, and it again will be distributed digitally."

Mayor Michael Bloomberg, speaking Friday on his weekly WABC radio show, said he was surprised to hear about the problems but acknowledged that mistakes can happen.

"I'm not the best speller in the world," he said.

"It is a complex world, and every day you wake up in my job and say, 'They did what?"' he said. "There are times when I'm halfway downtown on the subway after reading a few of the stories and I think maybe I should just get off at the next station, cross the platform and go back uptown."

And then this:


U.S. tops the world in school spending but not test scores
WASHINGTON (AP) — The United States spends more public and private money on education than other major countries, but its performance doesn't measure up in areas ranging from high-school graduation rates to test scores in math, reading and science, a new report shows.

"There are countries which don't get the bang for the bucks, and the U.S. is one of them," said Barry McGaw, education director for the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, which produced the annual review of industrialized nations.

The United States spent $10,240 per student from elementary school through college in 2000, according to the report. The average was $6,361 among more than 25 nations.
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