Who wants to live forever? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Hain · 03-11-2005, 12:32 PM

This is just a thread to poll on who would like to live forever.

Choose either yes, no, or are you indifferent, and then if you wish, post your reason why.

EDIT: Sure, this is a Tilted Philosophy question but why not here? This place gets more hits than Philosophy, IMO.

Because of some bad wording on my part, I did not specify my definition of forever. Forever, in the sense that the question was meant to be used, means to exist indefinitely with eternal youth, for as long as you wish.

And yes, you will have indefinite youth and/or health.
If you so choose you can give yourself advancements of any sort.
If you want some ideas of what may be to come, check out here.

Destrox · 03-11-2005, 12:44 PM

Yes I would and no I would not. Yes to see how technology advances, and to see the true future of humanity. No because of losing my family and going through the stresses of society.

Also when creatiing threads like this, it helps to start off with your own opinion.

BigBen · 03-11-2005, 12:44 PM

Hey, I'm having this much fun, imagine once I screw up everything at least once and learn from my mistakes... I'LL BE INVINCIBLE!

Oh, and having a birthday cake with 345,873,124,983,004,128 candles on it would be very cool.

Most dreaded phrase in University Math / Stats class: As the limit approaches infinity....

Dingo2879 · 03-11-2005, 01:21 PM

And imagine if you continued to put all your loose change in a jar

superiorrain · 03-11-2005, 01:27 PM

The problem about living forever is that you never do anything because you'll always put it off. Whereas living as if you're going to die makes you live life to the fullest and that surely it is what it is all about. Also if you live forever you'd have to work forever and i'm sure all those people who have been doing that for the last 30 - 40 years would agree that isn't too great.

Charlatan · 03-11-2005, 01:29 PM

I would absolutely want to live forever... as long as I also have eternal youth.

Cynthetiq · 03-11-2005, 01:32 PM

waiting for Augi's opinon....

if it doesn't show up soon.. poll will be closed. Onus is on the thread starter to start a DISCUSSION not a poll or "Yes, count me in" thread.

kramus · 03-11-2005, 01:35 PM

I always figured that this body and this earth were only a very small part of the real deal. If by live forever you mean as a corporate being trundling about eating and dumping and watching 99.999% of everybody doing the same old same old, then no definitely not. I have things to do that don't involve being stuck in 4 dimensions forever. That said, I intend to appreciate what I got while I got it because dammit, it is so beautiful and so important to have lived.

snowy · 03-11-2005, 01:46 PM

If I were an elf, yes.

If I were not an elf, no.

Because if I were an elf I could marry Legolas and live happily ever after with my Elven prince. Having to share him with Gimli would be the hard part.

Lucifer · 03-11-2005, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onesnowyowl

Having to share him with Gimli would be the hard part.

Not if you're kinky. Just imagine the possiblilities!

superiorrain · 03-11-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucifer

Not if you're kinky. Just imagine the possiblilities!

That's the funniest thing i have seen all day. Wow the images in my head are blowing my mind.

CSflim · 03-11-2005, 02:10 PM

I would happily live for much longer than what we humans get. I would enjoy centuries, or maybe even millenia...but forever...that's a long time!

kramus · 03-11-2005, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucifer

Not if you're kinky. Just imagine the possiblilities!

I guess you would learn all about the long and the short term possibilities

Actually, Gimli would be dwarf dust long before you two elf types ran out of things to try (and try, retry, try again backwards etc etc ad infinitum)

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Originally Posted by CSflim

I would happily live for much longer than what we humans get. I would enjoy centuries, or maybe even millenia...but forever...that's a long time!

That would be cool - millenia vs eternity. Then I could get some work done before calling it a day.

Tophat665 · 03-11-2005, 03:30 PM

Sure, Though the downside would be having that Queen song stuck in my head.

So far, so good in any case.

snowy · 03-11-2005, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucifer

Not if you're kinky. Just imagine the possiblilities!

Yeah, I'm not really into dwarf/elf sex...but he's welcome to watch.

World's King · 03-11-2005, 04:30 PM

There can be only one...

vbuser · 03-11-2005, 05:15 PM

Eww ... in any event, yes.

Fire · 03-11-2005, 08:03 PM

why not- it states that others can live forever too
there would be other questions, though regarding whether one would live in perfect health.

Hain · 03-11-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Destrox

Yes I would and no I would not. Yes to see how technology advances, and to see the true future of humanity. No because of losing my family and going through the stresses of society.

Also when creatiing threads like this, it helps to start off with your own opinion.

I would have put my opinion but I ran out of time in class. My opinion, yes I would live forever. There is so much to learn and to explore... I'd have all the time I'd need.

Also, I thought I put this in the poll Question, People you know can live forever too.

Hain · 03-11-2005, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by superiorrain

The problem about living forever is that you never do anything because you'll always put it off. Whereas living as if you're going to die makes you live life to the fullest and that surely it is what it is all about. Also if you live forever you'd have to work forever and i'm sure all those people who have been doing that for the last 30 - 40 years would agree that isn't too great.

I would disagree. I am not impatient, but I like to get things done right away. I also have to deal with the fact that those around me who may not be living forever, are bound to my actions, and my inactions. By your quote I figured that you would have the same idea.

Also, Yes you would be living in perfect health, because prolonged life most likely endows enhanced knowledge. Knowledge of oneself most certainly would come along before incapacity set in. Or you could just wait for technology to advance to the point where if this problem was not previously dealt with, it would be then.

whocarz · 03-11-2005, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by onesnowyowl

If I were an elf, yes.

If I were not an elf, no.

Because if I were an elf I could marry Legolas and live happily ever after with my Elven prince. Having to share him with Gimli would be the hard part.

Well, Legolas and Gimli had a friendly rivalry going on. You would have to share him with Aragorn. You could cut the sexual tension between Orlando Bloom and Vigo Mortensen with a knife it was so thick.

Anyway, no, I wouldn't want to live forever. I want to die young and messily.

lordpoopshank · 03-11-2005, 09:55 PM

im pretty sure that living forever would be boring as hell

aberkok · 03-11-2005, 10:02 PM

I see it as a challenge. Just think - you couldn't possibly know right now what it would be like. Even imagining it is improbable. As beings with limited life spans, we evaluate living forever in a useless way. At first I worry about getting bored, but then I think "well wouldn't that be boring, so why don't I go earn another degree, this time in science?" Think of the wisdom you could acquire!!

Think of the experiences you could have. I look forward to it (I mean I would if it would happen).

Stiltzkin · 03-11-2005, 10:06 PM

Am I immortal, or am I simply capable of living forever, assuming that I am never murdered, killed accidentally, or the victim of some deadly illness?
"On a large enough time line, the survival rate for everyone will drop to zero." - Fight Club
If I'm not immortal, but simply capable of living forever, then I'll die eventually anyway. So sure, why not? Sign me up for the longevity shot!
Also, anyone else here ever read Robert A. Heinlein's Time Enough for Love? Lazarus Long lives for 2000+ years and starts to get really bored. So bored in fact that he has himself cloned and the zygote made into a female, and at that twins. He gets to raise female twin versions of himself... damn, how bored can you get in 2000 years? Not that I don't think the idea of raising a female version of myself would be interesting, but seriously, how much can you do in 2000 years? How fast would you get bored? I'd give it a shot though.

Ace_O_Spades · 03-11-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Stiltzkin

Also, anyone else here ever read Robert A. Heinlein's Time Enough for Love? Lazarus Long lives for 2000+ years and starts to get really bored. So bored in fact that he has himself cloned and the zygote made into a female, and at that twins. He gets to raise female twin versions of himself... damn, how bored can you get in 2000 years? Not that I don't think the idea of raising a female version of myself would be interesting, but seriously, how much can you do in 2000 years? How fast would you get bored? I'd give it a shot though.

That book was soooo much fun to read.

Interesting social commentary on deviance and sexuality as well... We have a lot to learn about acceptance.

thalakos315 · 03-11-2005, 10:43 PM

well.. it really depends

i don't think i could really live forever. i think the waiting would drive me insane.
time flies by fast, but not fast enough for forever. after a certain point you've seen everything, done everything, and grown tired of it like an overplayed song
after you've reached that point, you'd simply be waiting for something new to grab your interest. after a while.. that to would get old

i could only do it under two circumstances..
1) i could hibernate decades, or even centuries away whenever i got bored, skipping the waiting

2) i could choose my own time to die. after awhile, i think life would just lose its appeal, having a way out would be a must

KinkyKiwi · 03-11-2005, 11:00 PM

i chose "no" because...well living each day knowing that i dont have FOREVER makes me enjoy every second more

K-Wise · 03-11-2005, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tophat665

Sure, Though the downside would be having that Queen song stuck in my head.

So far, so good in any case.

Ah yes! One of my favorite songs of all time!

Quote:

There's no time for us
There's no place for us
What is this thing that builds our dreams, yet slips away
from us
Who wants to live forever? (twice)

There's no chance for us
It's all decided for us
This world has only one sweet moment set aside for us

Who wants to live forever? (twice)
Who dares to love forever
When love must die?

But touch my tears with your lips
Touch my world with your fingertips
And we can have forever
And we can love forever
Forever is ours today
Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever
Forever is ours today
Who waits forever anyway?

Asta!!

snowy · 03-12-2005, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whocarz

Well, Legolas and Gimli had a friendly rivalry going on. You would have to share him with Aragorn. You could cut the sexual tension between Orlando Bloom and Viggo Mortensen with a knife it was so thick.messily.

Oh, I'd gladly cut that sexual tension any day of the week...are you kidding me? Hello?! Yes! Please!

If I could pass eternity with Legolas...BRING IT ON.

03-12-2005, 04:48 AM

No I wouldnt want to live forever. In fact Im finding this one life a little too hard going at the moment and kind of wish that I hadnt had to live through this one .

jhkayakr · 03-12-2005, 05:31 AM

Can't imagine working at my job for the next 1500 years!

zeu · 03-12-2005, 07:20 AM

No I would not want to live forever. It would ruin the balance.
Death is the ultimate relief to living, one that I'm awaiting to experience.
Imagine not feeling any emotion, not having any thoughts.. A year ago that scared me to no end, but today, it sounds quite nice.

Sue · 03-12-2005, 07:31 AM

hell yeah I'd wanna live forever, but as Charlatan said, I'd have to have eternal youth.

Sorta vampiric, only without the blood sucking eh?

cierah · 03-12-2005, 08:46 AM

Of course I'd want to live forever. Think of all the things you could learn, do, see and experience. I don't see how you would get bored, especially if other ppl continued to be born b/c from each person you encounter you can learn something from so you will never run out of things to learn.

Zephyr66 · 03-12-2005, 09:36 AM

Nah, it would kinda suck after a while

Karby · 03-12-2005, 10:13 AM

i'd get bored living forever. then i'd just try to die. on purpose.

KinkyKiwi · 03-12-2005, 10:45 AM

vampires can be killed cant they??

Hain · 03-12-2005, 11:10 PM

Everyone that believes that one would become bored, or do everything eventually enough that you would tire of it, I honestly think that you people do not look up at the night sky enough.

I know that is where I would spend my time. There is far too much out there that we see, and even that which we can't see, to explore out there.

Quote:

The Church "Under the Milky Way"

Sometimes when this place gets kind of empty,
Sound of their breath fades with the light.
I think about the loveless fascination,
Under the milky way tonight.

Lower the curtain down in memphis,
Lower the curtain down all right.
I got no time for private consultation,
Under the milky way tonight.

Wish I knew what you were looking for.
Might have known what you would find.
Wish I knew what you were looking for.
Might have known what you would find.

And it's something quite peculiar,
Something that's shimmering and white.
It leads you here despite your destination,
Under the milky way tonight
(chorus)
Under the milky way tonight.

Ace_O_Spades · 03-13-2005, 01:27 AM

I want to live forever because I want to be there when we discover life on another planet (or, more likely, moon)

I want to be there when we walk on mars and inhabit other worlds

I want to be there when we can look back at the year 2005 and say "Wow, what the fuck were those heathens thinking?"

Rodney · 03-13-2005, 06:08 AM

Sure, as long as "living forever" didn't mean that you couldn't die if you wanted to. I think it would be freeing for everybody to have exactly as much time as they need to do everything that interests them, without having to compromise because your biology is only going to give you maybe 40 peak years, and you feel that you have to spend most of them only doing something that can provide for your remaining 10-20 declining years.

I think that the wording of the poll is somewhat restrictive: "live forever" implies eternity. I think it would be more accurate to ask if everybody wanted to live as long as they felt like it, and be at peak efficiency the entire time. I don't know anybody who'd turn that down.

View Poll Results: Would you want to live forever? Know that others could live forever as well.
Yes	58	52.25%
No	39	35.14%
Undecided	14	12.61%
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03-11-2005, 12:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hain has a plan Location: middle of Whywouldanyonebethere	Who wants to live forever? This is just a thread to poll on who would like to live forever. Choose either yes, no, or are you indifferent, and then if you wish, post your reason why. EDIT: Sure, this is a Tilted Philosophy question but why not here? This place gets more hits than Philosophy, IMO. Because of some bad wording on my part, I did not specify my definition of forever. Forever, in the sense that the question was meant to be used, means to exist indefinitely with eternal youth, for as long as you wish. And yes, you will have indefinite youth and/or health. If you so choose you can give yourself advancements of any sort. If you want some ideas of what may be to come, check out here. __________________ ////\\// IRONSKY.NET \\//\\\\ Last edited by Hain; 03-14-2005 at 12:07 PM..

03-11-2005, 12:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Destrox Metal and Rock 4 Life Location: Phoenix	Yes I would and no I would not. Yes to see how technology advances, and to see the true future of humanity. No because of losing my family and going through the stresses of society. Also when creatiing threads like this, it helps to start off with your own opinion. __________________ You bore me.... next.

03-11-2005, 12:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
BigBen Comedian Location: Use the search button	Hey, I'm having this much fun, imagine once I screw up everything at least once and learn from my mistakes... I'LL BE INVINCIBLE! Oh, and having a birthday cake with 345,873,124,983,004,128 candles on it would be very cool. Most dreaded phrase in University Math / Stats class: As the limit approaches infinity.... __________________ 3.141592654 Hey, if you are impressed with my memorizing pi to 10 digits, you should see the size of my penis.

03-11-2005, 01:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
superiorrain Psycho Location: London	The problem about living forever is that you never do anything because you'll always put it off. Whereas living as if you're going to die makes you live life to the fullest and that surely it is what it is all about. Also if you live forever you'd have to work forever and i'm sure all those people who have been doing that for the last 30 - 40 years would agree that isn't too great. __________________ "The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them into the impossible." - Arthur C. Clarke

03-11-2005, 01:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dingo2879 Crazy Location: Lisle, IL	And imagine if you continued to put all your loose change in a jar

03-11-2005, 01:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	I would absolutely want to live forever... as long as I also have eternal youth. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

03-11-2005, 01:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	waiting for Augi's opinon.... if it doesn't show up soon.. poll will be closed. Onus is on the thread starter to start a DISCUSSION not a poll or "Yes, count me in" thread. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

03-11-2005, 01:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
kramus loving the curves Location: my Lady's manor	I always figured that this body and this earth were only a very small part of the real deal. If by live forever you mean as a corporate being trundling about eating and dumping and watching 99.999% of everybody doing the same old same old, then no definitely not. I have things to do that don't involve being stuck in 4 dimensions forever. That said, I intend to appreciate what I got while I got it because dammit, it is so beautiful and so important to have lived. __________________ And now to disengage the clutch of the forebrain ... I'm going with this - if you like artwork visit http://markfineart.ca

03-11-2005, 01:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
snowy Kick Ass Kunoichi Location: Oregon	If I were an elf, yes. If I were not an elf, no. Because if I were an elf I could marry Legolas and live happily ever after with my Elven prince. Having to share him with Gimli would be the hard part. __________________ If I am not better, at least I am different. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau

03-11-2005, 02:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	I would happily live for much longer than what we humans get. I would enjoy centuries, or maybe even millenia...but forever...that's a long time! __________________

03-11-2005, 03:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
Tophat665 Minion of the scaléd ones Location: Northeast Jesusland	Sure, Though the downside would be having that Queen song stuck in my head. So far, so good in any case. __________________ Light a man a fire, and he will be warm while it burns. Set a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

03-11-2005, 04:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
World's King Here Location: Denver City Denver	There can be only one... __________________ heavy is the head that wears the crown

03-11-2005, 05:15 PM	#17 (permalink)
vbuser Upright	Eww ... in any event, yes.

03-11-2005, 08:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Location: missouri	why not- it states that others can live forever too there would be other questions, though regarding whether one would live in perfect health. __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens

03-11-2005, 09:55 PM	#22 (permalink)
lordpoopshank Tilted	im pretty sure that living forever would be boring as hell

03-11-2005, 10:02 PM	#23 (permalink)
aberkok “Wrong is right.” Location: toronto	I see it as a challenge. Just think - you couldn't possibly know right now what it would be like. Even imagining it is improbable. As beings with limited life spans, we evaluate living forever in a useless way. At first I worry about getting bored, but then I think "well wouldn't that be boring, so why don't I go earn another degree, this time in science?" Think of the wisdom you could acquire!! Think of the experiences you could have. I look forward to it (I mean I would if it would happen). __________________ !check out my new blog! http://arkanamusic.wordpress.com Warden Gentiles: "It? Perfectly innocent. But I can see how, if our roles were reversed, I might have you beaten with a pillowcase full of batteries."

03-11-2005, 10:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
Stiltzkin Junkie	Am I immortal, or am I simply capable of living forever, assuming that I am never murdered, killed accidentally, or the victim of some deadly illness? "On a large enough time line, the survival rate for everyone will drop to zero." - Fight Club If I'm not immortal, but simply capable of living forever, then I'll die eventually anyway. So sure, why not? Sign me up for the longevity shot! Also, anyone else here ever read Robert A. Heinlein's Time Enough for Love? Lazarus Long lives for 2000+ years and starts to get really bored. So bored in fact that he has himself cloned and the zygote made into a female, and at that twins. He gets to raise female twin versions of himself... damn, how bored can you get in 2000 years? Not that I don't think the idea of raising a female version of myself would be interesting, but seriously, how much can you do in 2000 years? How fast would you get bored? I'd give it a shot though. __________________ The most important thing in this world is love.

03-11-2005, 10:43 PM	#26 (permalink)
thalakos315 Tilted	well.. it really depends i don't think i could really live forever. i think the waiting would drive me insane. time flies by fast, but not fast enough for forever. after a certain point you've seen everything, done everything, and grown tired of it like an overplayed song after you've reached that point, you'd simply be waiting for something new to grab your interest. after a while.. that to would get old i could only do it under two circumstances.. 1) i could hibernate decades, or even centuries away whenever i got bored, skipping the waiting 2) i could choose my own time to die. after awhile, i think life would just lose its appeal, having a way out would be a must

03-11-2005, 11:00 PM	#27 (permalink)
KinkyKiwi "Without the fuzz" Location: ..too close for comfort..	i chose "no" because...well living each day knowing that i dont have FOREVER makes me enjoy every second more __________________ Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps. Play with each other. Play with yourselves. Just don't play with the squirrels, they bite.

03-12-2005, 04:48 AM	#30 (permalink)
Lin Guest	No I wouldnt want to live forever. In fact Im finding this one life a little too hard going at the moment and kind of wish that I hadnt had to live through this one .

03-12-2005, 05:31 AM	#31 (permalink)
jhkayakr Insane Location: under the skirt	Can't imagine working at my job for the next 1500 years! __________________ ........gotta need for speed.... Last edited by jhkayakr; 03-13-2005 at 07:33 AM..

03-12-2005, 07:20 AM	#32 (permalink)
zeu Upright	No I would not want to live forever. It would ruin the balance. Death is the ultimate relief to living, one that I'm awaiting to experience. Imagine not feeling any emotion, not having any thoughts.. A year ago that scared me to no end, but today, it sounds quite nice.

03-12-2005, 07:31 AM	#33 (permalink)
Sue Teufel Hunden's Freundin Location: Westminster, CO	hell yeah I'd wanna live forever, but as Charlatan said, I'd have to have eternal youth. Sorta vampiric, only without the blood sucking eh? __________________ Teg yw edrych tuag adref.

03-12-2005, 08:46 AM	#34 (permalink)
cierah Crazy Location: Canada	Of course I'd want to live forever. Think of all the things you could learn, do, see and experience. I don't see how you would get bored, especially if other ppl continued to be born b/c from each person you encounter you can learn something from so you will never run out of things to learn.

03-12-2005, 09:36 AM	#35 (permalink)
Zephyr66 My custom title's the shit! Location: Canada	Nah, it would kinda suck after a while

03-12-2005, 10:13 AM	#36 (permalink)
Karby Psycho Location: somewhere	i'd get bored living forever. then i'd just try to die. on purpose. __________________ ~my karma ran over my dogma.~

03-12-2005, 10:45 AM	#37 (permalink)
KinkyKiwi "Without the fuzz" Location: ..too close for comfort..	vampires can be killed cant they?? __________________ Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps. Play with each other. Play with yourselves. Just don't play with the squirrels, they bite.

03-13-2005, 01:27 AM	#39 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	I want to live forever because I want to be there when we discover life on another planet (or, more likely, moon) I want to be there when we walk on mars and inhabit other worlds I want to be there when we can look back at the year 2005 and say "Wow, what the fuck were those heathens thinking?" __________________ Feh. Last edited by Ace_O_Spades; 03-13-2005 at 01:53 AM..

03-13-2005, 06:08 AM	#40 (permalink)
Rodney Observant Ruminant Location: Rich Wannabe Hippie Town	Sure, as long as "living forever" didn't mean that you couldn't die if you wanted to. I think it would be freeing for everybody to have exactly as much time as they need to do everything that interests them, without having to compromise because your biology is only going to give you maybe 40 peak years, and you feel that you have to spend most of them only doing something that can provide for your remaining 10-20 declining years. I think that the wording of the poll is somewhat restrictive: "live forever" implies eternity. I think it would be more accurate to ask if everybody wanted to live as long as they felt like it, and be at peak efficiency the entire time. I don't know anybody who'd turn that down.