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Hain 03-11-2005 12:32 PM

Who wants to live forever?
 
This is just a thread to poll on who would like to live forever.

Choose either yes, no, or are you indifferent, and then if you wish, post your reason why.

EDIT: Sure, this is a Tilted Philosophy question but why not here? This place gets more hits than Philosophy, IMO.

Because of some bad wording on my part, I did not specify my definition of forever. Forever, in the sense that the question was meant to be used, means to exist indefinitely with eternal youth, for as long as you wish.

And yes, you will have indefinite youth and/or health.
If you so choose you can give yourself advancements of any sort.
If you want some ideas of what may be to come, check out here.

Destrox 03-11-2005 12:44 PM

Yes I would and no I would not. Yes to see how technology advances, and to see the true future of humanity. No because of losing my family and going through the stresses of society.

Also when creatiing threads like this, it helps to start off with your own opinion.

BigBen 03-11-2005 12:44 PM

Hey, I'm having this much fun, imagine once I screw up everything at least once and learn from my mistakes... I'LL BE INVINCIBLE!

Oh, and having a birthday cake with 345,873,124,983,004,128 candles on it would be very cool.

Most dreaded phrase in University Math / Stats class: As the limit approaches infinity....

Dingo2879 03-11-2005 01:21 PM

:crazy: And imagine if you continued to put all your loose change in a jar

superiorrain 03-11-2005 01:27 PM

The problem about living forever is that you never do anything because you'll always put it off. Whereas living as if you're going to die makes you live life to the fullest and that surely it is what it is all about. Also if you live forever you'd have to work forever and i'm sure all those people who have been doing that for the last 30 - 40 years would agree that isn't too great.

Charlatan 03-11-2005 01:29 PM

I would absolutely want to live forever... as long as I also have eternal youth.

Cynthetiq 03-11-2005 01:32 PM

waiting for Augi's opinon....

if it doesn't show up soon.. poll will be closed. Onus is on the thread starter to start a DISCUSSION not a poll or "Yes, count me in" thread.

kramus 03-11-2005 01:35 PM

I always figured that this body and this earth were only a very small part of the real deal. If by live forever you mean as a corporate being trundling about eating and dumping and watching 99.999% of everybody doing the same old same old, then no definitely not. I have things to do that don't involve being stuck in 4 dimensions forever. That said, I intend to appreciate what I got while I got it because dammit, it is so beautiful and so important to have lived.

snowy 03-11-2005 01:46 PM

If I were an elf, yes.

If I were not an elf, no.

Because if I were an elf I could marry Legolas and live happily ever after with my Elven prince. Having to share him with Gimli would be the hard part.

Lucifer 03-11-2005 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onesnowyowl
Having to share him with Gimli would be the hard part.

Not if you're kinky. Just imagine the possiblilities!

superiorrain 03-11-2005 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucifer
Not if you're kinky. Just imagine the possiblilities!

That's the funniest thing i have seen all day. Wow the images in my head are blowing my mind. :crazy:

CSflim 03-11-2005 02:10 PM

I would happily live for much longer than what we humans get. I would enjoy centuries, or maybe even millenia...but forever...that's a long time!

kramus 03-11-2005 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucifer
Not if you're kinky. Just imagine the possiblilities!

I guess you would learn all about the long and the short term possibilities ;) Actually, Gimli would be dwarf dust long before you two elf types ran out of things to try (and try, retry, try again backwards etc etc ad infinitum)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSflim
I would happily live for much longer than what we humans get. I would enjoy centuries, or maybe even millenia...but forever...that's a long time!

That would be cool - millenia vs eternity. Then I could get some work done before calling it a day.

Tophat665 03-11-2005 03:30 PM

Sure, Though the downside would be having that Queen song stuck in my head.

So far, so good in any case.

snowy 03-11-2005 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucifer
Not if you're kinky. Just imagine the possiblilities!

Yeah, I'm not really into dwarf/elf sex...but he's welcome to watch.
:D

World's King 03-11-2005 04:30 PM

There can be only one...

vbuser 03-11-2005 05:15 PM

Eww ... in any event, yes.

Fire 03-11-2005 08:03 PM

why not- it states that others can live forever too
there would be other questions, though regarding whether one would live in perfect health.

Hain 03-11-2005 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destrox
Yes I would and no I would not. Yes to see how technology advances, and to see the true future of humanity. No because of losing my family and going through the stresses of society.

Also when creatiing threads like this, it helps to start off with your own opinion.

I would have put my opinion but I ran out of time in class. My opinion, yes I would live forever. There is so much to learn and to explore... I'd have all the time I'd need.

Also, I thought I put this in the poll Question, People you know can live forever too.

Hain 03-11-2005 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superiorrain
The problem about living forever is that you never do anything because you'll always put it off. Whereas living as if you're going to die makes you live life to the fullest and that surely it is what it is all about. Also if you live forever you'd have to work forever and i'm sure all those people who have been doing that for the last 30 - 40 years would agree that isn't too great.

I would disagree. I am not impatient, but I like to get things done right away. I also have to deal with the fact that those around me who may not be living forever, are bound to my actions, and my inactions. By your quote I figured that you would have the same idea.

Also, Yes you would be living in perfect health, because prolonged life most likely endows enhanced knowledge. Knowledge of oneself most certainly would come along before incapacity set in. Or you could just wait for technology to advance to the point where if this problem was not previously dealt with, it would be then.

whocarz 03-11-2005 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onesnowyowl
If I were an elf, yes.

If I were not an elf, no.

Because if I were an elf I could marry Legolas and live happily ever after with my Elven prince. Having to share him with Gimli would be the hard part.

Well, Legolas and Gimli had a friendly rivalry going on. You would have to share him with Aragorn. You could cut the sexual tension between Orlando Bloom and Vigo Mortensen with a knife it was so thick.

Anyway, no, I wouldn't want to live forever. I want to die young and messily.

lordpoopshank 03-11-2005 09:55 PM

im pretty sure that living forever would be boring as hell

aberkok 03-11-2005 10:02 PM

I see it as a challenge. Just think - you couldn't possibly know right now what it would be like. Even imagining it is improbable. As beings with limited life spans, we evaluate living forever in a useless way. At first I worry about getting bored, but then I think "well wouldn't that be boring, so why don't I go earn another degree, this time in science?" Think of the wisdom you could acquire!!

Think of the experiences you could have. I look forward to it (I mean I would if it would happen).

Stiltzkin 03-11-2005 10:06 PM

Am I immortal, or am I simply capable of living forever, assuming that I am never murdered, killed accidentally, or the victim of some deadly illness?
"On a large enough time line, the survival rate for everyone will drop to zero." - Fight Club
If I'm not immortal, but simply capable of living forever, then I'll die eventually anyway. So sure, why not? Sign me up for the longevity shot!
Also, anyone else here ever read Robert A. Heinlein's Time Enough for Love? Lazarus Long lives for 2000+ years and starts to get really bored. So bored in fact that he has himself cloned and the zygote made into a female, and at that twins. He gets to raise female twin versions of himself... damn, how bored can you get in 2000 years? Not that I don't think the idea of raising a female version of myself would be interesting, but seriously, how much can you do in 2000 years? How fast would you get bored? I'd give it a shot though.

Ace_O_Spades 03-11-2005 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiltzkin
Also, anyone else here ever read Robert A. Heinlein's Time Enough for Love? Lazarus Long lives for 2000+ years and starts to get really bored. So bored in fact that he has himself cloned and the zygote made into a female, and at that twins. He gets to raise female twin versions of himself... damn, how bored can you get in 2000 years? Not that I don't think the idea of raising a female version of myself would be interesting, but seriously, how much can you do in 2000 years? How fast would you get bored? I'd give it a shot though.

That book was soooo much fun to read.

Interesting social commentary on deviance and sexuality as well... We have a lot to learn about acceptance.

thalakos315 03-11-2005 10:43 PM

well.. it really depends

i don't think i could really live forever. i think the waiting would drive me insane.
time flies by fast, but not fast enough for forever. after a certain point you've seen everything, done everything, and grown tired of it like an overplayed song
after you've reached that point, you'd simply be waiting for something new to grab your interest. after a while.. that to would get old

i could only do it under two circumstances..
1) i could hibernate decades, or even centuries away whenever i got bored, skipping the waiting ;)

2) i could choose my own time to die. after awhile, i think life would just lose its appeal, having a way out would be a must

KinkyKiwi 03-11-2005 11:00 PM

i chose "no" because...well living each day knowing that i dont have FOREVER makes me enjoy every second more :)

K-Wise 03-11-2005 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tophat665
Sure, Though the downside would be having that Queen song stuck in my head.

So far, so good in any case.

Ah yes! One of my favorite songs of all time!

Quote:

There's no time for us
There's no place for us
What is this thing that builds our dreams, yet slips away
from us
Who wants to live forever? (twice)

There's no chance for us
It's all decided for us
This world has only one sweet moment set aside for us

Who wants to live forever? (twice)
Who dares to love forever
When love must die?

But touch my tears with your lips
Touch my world with your fingertips
And we can have forever
And we can love forever
Forever is ours today
Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever
Forever is ours today
Who waits forever anyway?
Asta!! :D

snowy 03-12-2005 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whocarz
Well, Legolas and Gimli had a friendly rivalry going on. You would have to share him with Aragorn. You could cut the sexual tension between Orlando Bloom and Viggo Mortensen with a knife it was so thick.messily.

Oh, I'd gladly cut that sexual tension any day of the week...are you kidding me? Hello?! Yes! Please!

If I could pass eternity with Legolas...BRING IT ON.

03-12-2005 04:48 AM

No I wouldnt want to live forever. In fact Im finding this one life a little too hard going at the moment and kind of wish that I hadnt had to live through this one .

jhkayakr 03-12-2005 05:31 AM

Can't imagine working at my job for the next 1500 years!

zeu 03-12-2005 07:20 AM

No I would not want to live forever. It would ruin the balance.
Death is the ultimate relief to living, one that I'm awaiting to experience.
Imagine not feeling any emotion, not having any thoughts.. A year ago that scared me to no end, but today, it sounds quite nice.

Sue 03-12-2005 07:31 AM

hell yeah I'd wanna live forever, but as Charlatan said, I'd have to have eternal youth.

Sorta vampiric, only without the blood sucking eh?

cierah 03-12-2005 08:46 AM

Of course I'd want to live forever. Think of all the things you could learn, do, see and experience. I don't see how you would get bored, especially if other ppl continued to be born b/c from each person you encounter you can learn something from so you will never run out of things to learn.

Zephyr66 03-12-2005 09:36 AM

Nah, it would kinda suck after a while

Karby 03-12-2005 10:13 AM

i'd get bored living forever. then i'd just try to die. on purpose.

KinkyKiwi 03-12-2005 10:45 AM

vampires can be killed cant they??

Hain 03-12-2005 11:10 PM

Everyone that believes that one would become bored, or do everything eventually enough that you would tire of it, I honestly think that you people do not look up at the night sky enough.

I know that is where I would spend my time. There is far too much out there that we see, and even that which we can't see, to explore out there.

Quote:

The Church "Under the Milky Way"

Sometimes when this place gets kind of empty,
Sound of their breath fades with the light.
I think about the loveless fascination,
Under the milky way tonight.

Lower the curtain down in memphis,
Lower the curtain down all right.
I got no time for private consultation,
Under the milky way tonight.

Wish I knew what you were looking for.
Might have known what you would find.
Wish I knew what you were looking for.
Might have known what you would find.

And it's something quite peculiar,
Something that's shimmering and white.
It leads you here despite your destination,
Under the milky way tonight
(chorus)
Under the milky way tonight.

Ace_O_Spades 03-13-2005 01:27 AM

I want to live forever because I want to be there when we discover life on another planet (or, more likely, moon)

I want to be there when we walk on mars and inhabit other worlds

I want to be there when we can look back at the year 2005 and say "Wow, what the fuck were those heathens thinking?"

Rodney 03-13-2005 06:08 AM

Sure, as long as "living forever" didn't mean that you couldn't die if you wanted to. I think it would be freeing for everybody to have exactly as much time as they need to do everything that interests them, without having to compromise because your biology is only going to give you maybe 40 peak years, and you feel that you have to spend most of them only doing something that can provide for your remaining 10-20 declining years.

I think that the wording of the poll is somewhat restrictive: "live forever" implies eternity. I think it would be more accurate to ask if everybody wanted to live as long as they felt like it, and be at peak efficiency the entire time. I don't know anybody who'd turn that down.


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