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03-04-2005, 12:25 PM | #43 (permalink) |
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A fence isn't going to solve the problem. Kids will find something else that's dangerous to do. I do dangerous stuff all the time, but nobody tries to put a fence up when I get hurt. It's the kid's fault that he didn't make it.
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03-04-2005, 05:29 PM | #44 (permalink) | |
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No, parents of the dumb ass kid who is a garage jumper, you are purely wrong and you need to be told this. The garages here take full responsibility for providing you and your dumb ass spawn a place to park your car. Their responsibility ends there. If you are dumb ass enough to “garage jump” then you are certainly dumb ass enough to enjoy the consequences without whining about it and blaming someone else for your dumb assed behavior. <<< Edit >>> And to other would be garage jumpers out there. Go ahead. Make my day. Just don't whine about it after you, being the "greater risk taker" than I, screw yourself up or worse, perhaps even die, in the process.
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03-05-2005, 06:22 PM | #45 (permalink) |
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Adolescents are old enough to distinguish an activity that may cause them harm. I do not think society should be held responsible for people who decide to put their life in danger this way.
Would anyone think me correct if I ran out into traffic because there's a chance I might or might not come out unscathed. Would I be able to sue the drivers for allowing me to jump in front of them? This issue points out that many people today just don't want to be bothered taking responsibility for themselves. And rat, yes, I think parachuters & bungee jumpers, etc. are taking unneccesary risks. I don't want to chance living the rest of my life crippled so I could have a quick adreneline rush. And for driving being dangerous, well, yes it is. But it's a neccesary evil. One does not have to jump from rooftop to rooftop to get to work. Just my 2 cents... |
03-07-2005, 07:08 AM | #47 (permalink) | |
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smiling doesn't hurt anymore :)
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03-07-2005, 06:34 PM | #50 (permalink) |
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I am losing my faith in Darwin. There is no way this kid should have survived to pass his genes on. It is his responsibilty to the the rest of society to keep jumping until he is dead or sterile. More importantly it is the responsibility of the garage owners to remove any fences that might prevent other morons from tempting to fate natural selection.
All risk is NOT the same. Some risk is taken because it is necessary (driving to work). Some risk is taken because not taking the risk more dangerous (choosing to defend yourself with violence). Some risk is taken by informed adults for the experience itself (SCUBA, parachuting, flying). In the last case, intelligent people understand that life can not be risk free, but they take steps to minimize the danger through education and preparation. Jumping from one building to another or elevator surfing or drag racing is undertaken only by those who are too immature to be free from parental oversight. It is their parent's responsibility to know they need ongoing supervision and hire babysitters for them. The rest of society and the garage owners are not morally responsible. I really don't care what the law says. After all it is the result of a bunch of lawyers getting together and planning on how to best screw the productive members of society.
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smiling doesn't hurt anymore :)
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03-08-2005, 12:32 AM | #53 (permalink) |
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I agree that if there was a law, they had to follow it. But dont single them out because of this case.
If you are going to enforce the law here, you have to enforce it everywhere. The idiot was an idiot and if the place was not doing its job, then the parties involved get no compensation. If the garage is to be punished, make it a fine payable to the city council, but dont dare let the family or espeically the lawyer think they can get it. I thought it was interesting, when i was reading the article. When it said who was suing the place, the name didnt match the family involved. I was like, what does the guy thats doing the suing have to do with the case.
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03-08-2005, 06:16 AM | #54 (permalink) | |
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03-08-2005, 09:49 AM | #55 (permalink) |
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Business owners have no obligation to protect people from themselves. If you are a dumb-ass and you engage in dumb-ass behavior then enjoy the consequences. Any of the fodder about it being the business’s responsibility to prevent people from being a dumb-ass is just not true.
The idea that fences should be put up to prevent this is crazy talk. That’s like saying that if it snows and the sidewalk in front of my house is covered in snow I should provide snow shoes to those who choose to pass by my house. WRONG. Snow and the potential for ice underneath being slippery is just common sense. Jumping from one garage to another is WRONG and socially aberrant behavior and lacks common sense. Business owners bear no responsibility for socially aberrant behavior lacking in common sense. It doesn’t mean they won’t capitulate to the pressure from all the nay-sayers who will talk about how evil it is of the business owners to put up such an unsafe facility which is nothing more than a load of S H I T crap. As for this phenomenae to be somehow similar to the risk you take by driving a car: That's just another load. There are laws that govern the way you are permitted to legally drive your car. Defensive, risk avoidance, driving is taught and preached from the very begining. Just in case I'm way out of touch and that's not another load then the next time I need to have my driver's license renewed I'll be sure to NOT check the "garage jumper" box which if checked would be the equivalent of wearing a sign that says "I'm a dumb ass". Attention Dumb Asses: You are free (at least in the U.S.) to be a dumb ass. Just don’t whine about it or blame someone else when you screw yourself up in the process. It’s just that simple folks.
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03-09-2005, 12:38 PM | #56 (permalink) |
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So the garage owner, who did nothing to encourage this behavior, is responsible while the parents, who have the responsibilty of raising their kids to not be complete morons, are blame free? The parents should be sued for neglecting their children. Or better yet, no one should be sued, and hope the kid got a bit smarter.
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