tehpronking

I'm all for freedom of speech, but you DO have to be careful of how you talk to some people. America is not as free as we think, and there is plenty that people can do to mess with you in situations like this. It's all about interpretation of the law.

Stompy

Like I explained above, they teach the golden rule to kids, "Treat others like you want to be treated." That goes for everyone, authority figure or not (to me, anyway). I don't give a fuck if you're a teacher, a cop, or the president himself: if you disrespect me, you'll get it right back.

Parents have nothing to do with this, either. That's a cop-out excuse because people are always looking to blame others when a problem doesn't really exist. Kids will be kids. Teenagers have always been rebellious. You said yourself, at 17 they're no longer a kid and should know better.

As I said above, if I did that at 17, it would in no way shape or form affect how my parents raised me because I'm my own person. You did shit at 17, I'm sure, so the stuff you did... did that reflect at all on how your parents raised you? Nope, and you know that.

But anyway... issue a detention/suspension and that's it. Be done with it, move on with life. Simple.

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And it was a deputy HALL MONITOR, farrrrrr from a police officer That's like saying the rent-a-cops at the mall are police officers. No, they're the ones that try to contain you while they call the real cops in.

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water_boy1999

What if the student said, "Look bitch, one more fucked homework assignment like that and I will rip your head off and shit down your throat!!!!" Will that make a difference to those that think it is just a language issue here? Whatever was said, we will probably never know. The fact of the matter is we have a real situation on our hands when our institutions of education no longer possess the power to educate the majority because of a few fucktards who disrupt the process. I really feel sorry for the teachers in this case because they are at the mercy of a skewed distortion of the freedom of speech. I do feel there have to be limitations in particular environments and I feel that school is one such environment. Of course we all had teachers in the past that we could barely tolerate. This is not the point. The point is we have an ever increasing epidemic in our country because we can not effectively teach kids respect for authority.

I can see the scenario played out from the teacher. "I'm sorry Glenn. There will be no ripping off my head and shitting down my throat until you finish your essay. Now take your seat like a good little boy."

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maleficent

At age 17, I was paying my way thru college, fully supporting myself. That had everything to do with how I was raised. I was not a pampered silly little spoiled brat who thinks he can get away with talking to people however he damn well pleases. And doing what ever he damn well pleases.

At a very early age I was taught to respect those in authority, I was taught that education was extremely important and getting to class on time was extremely important, because if you don't you screw it up for other people, I was taught that I wasn't the most important person in the universe and the world doesn't revolve around me, I was taught that all actions had consequences, I was taught to accept those consequences because they were deserved, if I felt they were undeserved, I was taught there was a way to handle disputes and acting like this young man, was never acceptable.

Parents have a responsibility, a HUGE one, to make their children responsible members of society, and should be held accountable when they don't do their job. They don't want the responsbility, don't have kids, it's really not that hard.

If detention hasn't worked with person before, why give it to him again? That's kinda like continually beating your thumb with a hammer, it's ineffective, you have to do something that works.

Kids will be kids,and kids do stupid shit is a lame excuse, he's old enough to know better and old enough to accept the consequences for his actions.

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ShaniFaye

Amen Mal!!!

Kids are not taught to respect anything but themselves....and thats going to hurt is all in the long run.

Hell I'm 36 and I still say yes/no sir/ma'am to everybody...even people younger than me, and even though I may not like them...or have any use for them at all I still respect a person in an authority position.

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alansmithee

I think part of the problem is schools have gone to an all or nothing system for punishment. Either they ignore bad behavior or it's jail time. If throughout school there was more consistency, and allowed more power, I think there wouldn't be the need for such harsh consequences. Because of overprotective parents, the schools often have no recourse but to go to the criminal courts. But from what is in the article, I have no problem with what happened. If someone has had previous problems, they should know that further action could result in drastic consequences. Hopefully, this is also being made clear at the school it happened, as a detterent to bad beharior (but fat chance it will work).

SitizenVZ

It's pretty ridiculous.. a kid can learn the same leason from being punished by the school. Unless it was a Death threat of some kind it's either a case of overreaction or bad teaching.

maleficent

Since this wasn't his first infration, clearly he's learned nothing by being punished by the school... What do you do next -- toss him out of school completely?

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thefictionweliv

The real problem is the severity cannot be assesed from the text. I called a teacher a "bitch" once after she made a wrong decision which would have a negative impact on my grade and she was ready to scream suspension, citation, in school suspension, and ruin my otherwise perfect academic and disciplinary record.

However if he said "fuck you bitch I'm going to kill you if we have one more homework assignment" then I guess it could be enough that this action be taken. However I still think it would be dealt better with a fine and suspension rather than jail time, the kid is digging his own grave, 30 days in jail isn't going to change things, so why waste money on him. People are going to choose their own path regaurdless of their situation, if he is going the path of nowhere 30 days won't make a difference. Yet again not enough information was really given to judge anyone in the situation. Who knows maybe the officer had a fight with his wife that morning and vented.

MikeyChalupa

But how much respect do you really deserve from your teacher when you show up late for class on a regular basis and then cuss her out? Inexcusable. You can't demand someone else's respect without giving it to them first. Ever thought to look at it that way? Apparently, this kid didn't either. That's how civilized society works.

You're right, at 17 they should know better. THEIR PARENTS SHOULD HAVE TAUGHT THEM TO KNOW BETTER. How else are they going to know?
So detain/suspend the kid. What happens next week? Another suspension? And then the week after that? What's your plan of action for a negative cycle of behavior that by everyone's admission, this person is displaying? And what of the example he sets for his peers, that this sort of behavior will only result in a minor token suspension, since "kids are kids?"

I don't know... maybe because I've been in the military for 9 years now and such a blatant disregard or disrespect for authority is unthinkable, because everyone already knows the consequences involved, but is this what it's really like out there today when kids know authority figures are afraid to hold them accountable? Have kids today really that little respect for people in authority positions? I for one hope this kid gets the wake-up call he surely needs.

The First Amendment has nothing to do with this. He's not cutting an album, he doesn't have a television show or movie, he's not writing articles in the paper. He's mouthing off to his teacher, which he knows is wrong and believes nothing will come out of it. He hopefully will find out the hard way that in life, your actions have consequences.

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JSBBrainiac

I have to say that because this is likely the first time this kid has even faced a judge, he'll probably get off with some community service at most. What they ought to do at that school though is start fining kids for using foul language. The schoolwide equivalent of a swear jar. Bad enough that some of us as adults use that kind of language. Kids sure don't need to.

Unfortunately, when they hear continual streams of it from music, movies, and even TV, it's going to start pouring out of them just as much. There's an old computer programming maxim abbreviated GIGO. It means Garbage In, Garbage Out. Same thing happens with a brain as a computer. You put trash into it, you get trash comming out in what a person does and says. I think the way this kid treated the teacher is a prime example of that.

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NavySEAL

That's pretty dumb...

tspikes51

Don't know what to think about this one... Kid should be punished, but jail is harsh, unless his previous behavior was extremely bad.

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pattycakes

Well i got suspened from highschool for two days for telling a teacher bite me. Suspension did not fit the crime. The teacher told me i was stupid and an idiot infront of the class and i said bite me instead of every word in the book. i get suspended for two days, but nothing happens to him, even with people from the class saying what happened was the truth