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Mephisto2 · 09-12-2004, 07:03 PM

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This be the verse

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.

But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.

Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.

Philip Larkin

I want to add that I don't subscribe to this point of view, but am taking the opportunity to post one of my favourite poems.

Personally, I'd like about four kids myself.

Mr Mephisto

Carno · 09-12-2004, 07:09 PM

I'd like a large family as well. I grew up with 5 sisters and one brother, and I learned a lot of things early on because of that; mainly to appreciate certain things more than maybe someone raised in a small family.

Manic_Skafe · 09-12-2004, 07:23 PM

Very cool poem.

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Personally, I'd like about four kids myself.

I doubt I could handle four children and I think between the both of us it's a physical impossibility but I guess we could give it a shot.

OFKU0 · 09-12-2004, 07:31 PM

Have all the kids you want. Someone has to uphold the quota.

sexymama · 09-12-2004, 08:28 PM

Sad truth, imho, is that we all have issues from our childhood that carry over to our adult relationships. My kids will too. But that is no reason to not have any. Besides, it's lots of fun screwing them up *sarcasm*.

Mephisto2 · 09-12-2004, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Mephisto

I want to add that I don't subscribe to this point of view, but am taking the opportunity to post one of my favourite poems.

Mr Mephisto

shortynickel · 09-12-2004, 09:12 PM

I hope that i dont screw my kids up :lol

i plan on being the opposite to a degree of course of what my childhood was like....long story lol

Y2KDREAD · 09-12-2004, 10:41 PM

it's so true!

warrrreagl · 09-13-2004, 04:20 AM

My most concise advice for you folks contemplating children is this:

RAISE THEM.
*Don't just provide for them.
*Don't be emotionally terrified of your own children.
*Tell them "no."
*Tell them you love them.
*Look upon discipline as an OPPORTUNITY to teach your child how to behave in social situations.
*If you have to plan "quality time," then you've missed the point.
*Forget all those sports cars you planned to own and trips you planned to take; your new responsibility is to your child (NOT yourself anymore).
*Babies grow into children. If you don't want screaming teenagers, then don't have babies.
*Teach them RESPONSIBILITY (the ability to do the right thing even when no one is looking).
*If you teach them not to touch things in gift shops, then you are NOT crushing their little spirit of self-expression. Rather, you are teaching them respect for other people's stuff.

You all may add more as you see fit.

lurkette · 09-13-2004, 06:08 AM

We all have issues we carry with us from childhood - it's kind of the nature of the beast - but even though the experiences I had as a kid left me with some "baggage," they also made me who I am, and I (finally) like myself. Every "bad" thing that my parents did that I resented them for for years and years was really a lesson that shaped my identity. I don't resent them for anything any more, and I'm grateful for having them as my parents. "I'm going to fuck them up" is kind of a cop-out reason to not have kids, IMHO.

09-13-2004, 08:06 AM

Poem has a point. The older I get, the more I see my father in myself.

Shoot me now.

Mephisto2 · 09-13-2004, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lurkette

"I'm going to fuck them up" is kind of a cop-out reason to not have kids, IMHO.

I never said it was. I just posted a poem I like!

Mr Mephisto

shortynickel · 09-13-2004, 09:21 PM

well my childhood was kinda screwed up and if it wasnt for my wife i dont know who/where i would be in life atm...i finally like who i am for the most part /hugs wife

i was actually told that my wife will turn out to be just like her mother and i married her anyway :lol

one more thing the part about forgetting about all those trips "I" would take arent out of the ? cause i always wanted to be able to take trips with the kiddies

smooth · 09-14-2004, 01:23 AM

I want 12 kids, but my wife isn't going for that.

I tried to compromise by suggesting she could be 1st wife in a harem, but that isn't going to well either.

So far, I've got her agreeing up to 3. I'm hoping they'll be like Lay's Potato Chips.

shortynickel · 09-14-2004, 08:15 AM

well smooth...my wife only wanted a max of 2...after our first she said i wouldnt mind having more then 2 lol...now she is prego again and says why did i want more lol

09-12-2004, 07:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
Carno Junkie	I'd like a large family as well. I grew up with 5 sisters and one brother, and I learned a lot of things early on because of that; mainly to appreciate certain things more than maybe someone raised in a small family. __________________ http://how-to-spell-ridiculous.com/

09-12-2004, 07:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
OFKU0 Junk	Have all the kids you want. Someone has to uphold the quota. __________________ " In Canada, you can tell the most blatant lie in a calm voice, and people will believe you over someone who's a little passionate about the truth." David Warren, Western Standard.

09-12-2004, 08:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
sexymama My own person -- his by choice Location: Lebell's arms	Sad truth, imho, is that we all have issues from our childhood that carry over to our adult relationships. My kids will too. But that is no reason to not have any. Besides, it's lots of fun screwing them up sarcasm. __________________ If you can go deeply into lovemaking, the ego disappears. That is the beauty of lovemaking, that it is another source of a glimpse of god It's not about being perfect; it's about developing some skill at managing imperfection.

09-12-2004, 10:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
Y2KDREAD Crazy Location: College Station, TX	it's so true! __________________ Signatures are for chumps.

09-13-2004, 04:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	My most concise advice for you folks contemplating children is this: RAISE THEM. Don't just provide for them. Don't be emotionally terrified of your own children. Tell them "no." Tell them you love them. Look upon discipline as an OPPORTUNITY to teach your child how to behave in social situations. If you have to plan "quality time," then you've missed the point. Forget all those sports cars you planned to own and trips you planned to take; your new responsibility is to your child (NOT yourself anymore). Babies grow into children. If you don't want screaming teenagers, then don't have babies. Teach them RESPONSIBILITY (the ability to do the right thing even when no one is looking). If you teach them not to touch things in gift shops, then you are NOT crushing their little spirit of self-expression. Rather, you are teaching them respect for other people's stuff. You all may add more as you see fit. __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed. Last edited by warrrreagl; 09-13-2004 at 04:23 AM..

09-12-2004, 09:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
shortynickel Addict Location: Central PA	I hope that i dont screw my kids up :lol i plan on being the opposite to a degree of course of what my childhood was like....long story lol

09-13-2004, 06:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
lurkette My future is coming on Moderator Emeritus Location: east of the sun and west of the moon	We all have issues we carry with us from childhood - it's kind of the nature of the beast - but even though the experiences I had as a kid left me with some "baggage," they also made me who I am, and I (finally) like myself. Every "bad" thing that my parents did that I resented them for for years and years was really a lesson that shaped my identity. I don't resent them for anything any more, and I'm grateful for having them as my parents. "I'm going to fuck them up" is kind of a cop-out reason to not have kids, IMHO. __________________ "If ten million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing." - Anatole France

09-13-2004, 08:06 AM	#11 (permalink)
Diamond Guest	Poem has a point. The older I get, the more I see my father in myself. Shoot me now.

09-13-2004, 09:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
shortynickel Addict Location: Central PA	well my childhood was kinda screwed up and if it wasnt for my wife i dont know who/where i would be in life atm...i finally like who i am for the most part /hugs wife i was actually told that my wife will turn out to be just like her mother and i married her anyway :lol one more thing the part about forgetting about all those trips "I" would take arent out of the ? cause i always wanted to be able to take trips with the kiddies

09-14-2004, 01:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
smooth Junkie Location: Right here	I want 12 kids, but my wife isn't going for that. I tried to compromise by suggesting she could be 1st wife in a harem, but that isn't going to well either. So far, I've got her agreeing up to 3. I'm hoping they'll be like Lay's Potato Chips. __________________ "The theory of a free press is that truth will emerge from free discussion, not that it will be presented perfectly and instantly in any one account." -- Walter Lippmann "You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists." -- Abbie Hoffman

09-14-2004, 08:15 AM	#15 (permalink)
shortynickel Addict Location: Central PA	well smooth...my wife only wanted a max of 2...after our first she said i wouldnt mind having more then 2 lol...now she is prego again and says why did i want more lol