boatin

whether or not shakespeare or whitman is public domain isn't relevant to me. the point that many seem to be making is that utilizing the name recognition of Bradbury's work is wrong - not the legal bearing.

Given that Bradbury did the same thing, it feels like hypocrisy to me. Standing on the technicality of length of life, and copyright duration is silly.

I'm not often a pure black and white kind of guy, but if it's wrong for one, it's wrong for the other. And if it's ok, it's ok.

Much ado about nothing.

izzzzy

moore gets even more publicity, and bradbury sets the stage for rerelesae of his own book and movie. perfectly timed and orchestrated manipulation of the media in both corners. brilliant.

GakFace

...... and I still don't like Moore... I've seen a documentary or two of his and I didn't like'em.... I'm amazed at the methods he uses and yet gains publicity doing them. I'm even more amazed he hasn't gotton knocked out many times doing so... (or has he.... who knows)

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It's hard to knock someone out who's as much of a fat bastard as he is. (Sorry, didn't mean to insult all the other fat bastards out there )

Why? Because about 50% of the people in the thread think Michael Moore is at least ethically in the wrong? Give me a break. If you're assuming no one is aligned with any third parties, that makes it about half and half. Sounds like a fair and reasonable amount to me.

And, regarding the election ad thing, it most certainly is. Michael Moore has made no qualms about the fact that it's his goal to effect the election. Sounds like an election ad to me. Not to mention the ad for the movie itself - without even seeing the movie - clearly attempts to show Bush in an unfavorable light. Again, something that clearly would effect the election and was intentionally made that way to do so, as admitted by Michael Moore.

As a side note, it's not that I love Bush, or hate John Kerry - I can't stand either of them really - it's that I hate angry fat bastards who lie, twist the truth, and ignore the facts to make semi-fictional documentaries, earn TONS of money from it, and have idiots take it as truth. Of course, I suppose he knows that if he ever stopped his whining and instead tried to DO something about it by entering the political arena, since he obviously can do such a better job apparently, he'd be torn apart after contradicting himself so many times and flat out lying others. I love the fact that the 9/11 commission nullified half his movie by the time it came out. Too bad so many people don't realize it.

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splck

bang on...
Bradbury is just looking for some publicity...that's all this is about. Moore haters will look to anything to vilify the man...including calling him fat

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Stare At The Sun

Ditto. I don't see how you can copyright one word.

Prince

I don't think Bush needs any help in showing himself in an unfavorable light.

As for this title issue... I fail to see how this is even an issue. It'd be one thing if Bradbury - or someone else - owned the trademark to the name. Then you could argue that someone's toes are being stepped on.

But talking about an artist's intellectual property? In this context, I don't see the point. Would the book be less good with a different title?

Plagiarizing someone's actual work, such as creating a parody of the whole book, would be one thing...but borrowing a title that is nothing but a temperature reading anyway... What a catastrophe.

Perhaps Moore has ties to al-Qaeda.

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Lebell

I don't understand this comment.

TFP is a place that welcomes everyone, so long as the basic board rules are followed.

This includes people on the political left as well as the political right.

There are sites out there that cater specifically to one or the other, but TFP will never be one.

So what is there to "fear" except being exposed to other people's opinions that may or may not agree with yours?

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timalkin

Come on, everybody knows that Republicans are destorying the world.

subz

I voted nothing. Moore is not profitting from the title of the film in any way. Was just a spin off the title of Bradbury's book, and the point Moore is trying to convey is similar to the story of Farhenheit 451.

I guess people will do anything to get a buck.