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Strange Famous · 06-20-2004, 08:43 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3823551.stm

Mini-skirt row sparks school ban

The school's head teacher says parents are happy with the ban
A school has banned skirts because it did not want girls "going outside with a come hither look" after hemlines rose to "inappropriate" levels.
Kesgrave High School near Ipswich in Suffolk ordered female students to wear trousers after some turned up in minis.

Chairman of governors Margaret Young said they were impractical as well as immodest as many girls cycled to school

The Equal Opportunities Commission says students could have a case for unlawful sex discrimination.

The girls could claim they had been denied normal dress options, it was suggested.

'Dreadful'

Governors' chairman Margaret Young said: "Two years ago we sent out letters to parents asking them to make sure skirts were regulation length which is just above the knee.

"The impact was very short-lived and it wasn't long before skirts were very short again."

A high percentage of the school's 1,600 pupils cycled to school and such short skirts looked "dreadful" on them, Mrs Young said.

The school is obviously concerned about the sexualisation of young children but I think making all girls wear trousers is going too far

Martin Goold, NUT

She added: "We simply do not want our girls going outside with a 'come hither look'. I think many parents will find it enormously helpful."

Head teacher George Thomas said: "There's going to be a uniform that gives all the girls and all the boys an equal chance to access in an appropriate style a very active curriculum and to make sure there is no embarrassment when girls are cycling to school.

"We just think it's common sense."

Martin Goold, Suffolk divisional secretary of the National Union of Teachers, said: "Thirty years ago we were getting equal opportunities cases where neither pupils nor teachers were permitted to wear trousers and now we seem to have gone completely the other way.

'Parents happy'

"The school is obviously concerned about the sexualisation of young children but I think making all girls wear trousers is going too far."

"The move could invite difficulties with parents and pupils over what might be considered normal attire."

But Mr Thomas said parents were happy with the decision and that he had only had one letter of complaint.

Earlier this month, a male student at Ringmer Community College in Lewes, Sussex, wore a skirt to college in protest at "sexist" school uniform rules.

Strange Famous · 06-20-2004, 08:49 AM

Its on the front page of google news for "England" section, haha, this is so awesome.

Mr Thomas was always a complete dick, his wife is the deputy head at the school and she always used to get pissed off with girls wearing short skirts!

Strange Famous · 06-20-2004, 08:51 AM

Its even been picked up by the Australian!

No skirting school ban
From correspondents in London
June 21, 2004
A SECONDARY school has banned girls from wearing skirts because too many were wearing them indecently short.

The school is thought to be the first in the UK to take the extraordinary step of forcing female students to wear only trousers.

Explaining the ban, George Thomas, head teacher of Kesgrave High School near Ipswich, Suffolk, said: "Some girls wear really short skirts, not helped by the fact that not many practical skirts are stocked by shops."

"Many of our pupils cycle to school, and some of the things the girls wear are not suitable for this."

From September, girls at Kesgrave High will have a choice of two styles of dark-blue trousers.

The father of a 15-year-old girl said: "It's an extreme measure but I can see their point. But surely they could enforce a regulation skirt rather than ban them."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...%5E401,00.html

Ok, sorry - I wont post anymore, Im just excited. This is so funny!

Yakk · 06-20-2004, 09:25 AM

Does the ban extend to men?

I assume that this school has school uniforms? Always found that strange myself.

analog · 06-20-2004, 09:46 AM

Sounds like someone porked their daughter or soemthing. Seems very knee-jerk to be of any normal reasoning.

maleficent · 06-20-2004, 09:50 AM

...and what happens when the girls start coming to school in super tight trousers? The tight pants might just accentuate their buttock regions or something.... oh what to do what to do

I know -- Burquas all around -- yah - cover their heads up too...

Strange Famous · 06-20-2004, 09:52 AM

yeah, nearly all schools in the UK have uniform

GakFace · 06-20-2004, 10:12 AM

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and to make sure there is no embarrassment when girls are cycling to school.

If they're wearing a mini-skirt and cycling to school.. I think they are well aware that people are going to try to look up their skirts.. if they don't then they really need to wake up and realize that us guys will, in fact, be horny.

stevie667 · 06-20-2004, 10:17 AM

I'm not complaining when it comes round to the schools around here, skin tight trousers are all good...

fuzyfuzer · 06-20-2004, 10:57 AM

we have discrimination in st louis private schools all the time a guy can not have longer hair while a girl can have it down to there waist if they wanted

it just never seemed fair to me

Chiuey · 06-21-2004, 02:06 AM

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Originally posted by Strange Famous
Its even been picked up by the Australian!

If that's teh case, It will only be a matter of time before my old HS picks it up. I went to a British school back int he day, they were a bunch of pricks too!

MSD · 06-21-2004, 06:19 AM

You probably all know by now that I despise dress codes and other unnecessary forms of control, especially those based on outdated moral objections to new things that older generations can't understand or accept.

Calling them "Impractical as well as immodest" is about what I'd expect, as it's the closest you can get to calling it immoral and sinful without causing an uproar.

timalkin · 06-21-2004, 07:54 AM

I appear to be the only one who agrees with the dress code restrictions. A school is supposed to be an environment where young people go to get an education and hopefully become contributing members of society. It should not be an amateur fashion show/stripclub where girls wear clothing that is too revealing.

Where the fuck are the parent's of these girls? It seems as though nobody cares anymore.

Just because you see something on MTV doesn't mean that it is appropriate or even acceptable in the education system.

maleficent · 06-21-2004, 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by timalkin
I appear to be the only one who agrees with the dress code restrictions. A school is supposed to be an environment where young people go to get an education and hopefully become contributing members of society. It should not be an amateur fashion show/stripclub where girls wear clothing that is too revealing.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with a dress code at all. Kids should be going to school to get an education, not a date for Saturday night. However, I do find it more than a tad hypocritical when they tell the girls that they can't wear short skirts, but trousers are acceptable -- and no word of what the boys are wearing.

Back when the dinosaurs walked the earth and I wasn in high school, the public school I attended had a dress code, boys had to wear collared shirts, no jeans, no shorts, other than that that was it. Girls, we had regulation skirt length, more than 2 inches above the knee was not acceptable, no shorts, no high heels, and no restricting clothing was how it was phrased (ie tight jeans)

DelayedReaction · 06-21-2004, 09:48 AM

Step 1: Ban miniskirts.
Step 2: ...
Step 3: Profit!

Seriously, I bet the guy is getting kickbacks from Levis or something. Better yet enforce a Catholic School Girl dress code; that'll DEFINITELY keep immodest thoughts from occuring...

whocarz · 06-21-2004, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by maleficent
-- and no word of what the boys are wearing.

Yes I'm sure all the high school aged British boys are running around wearing tight, foppish pants and cod pieces that accentuate their manhoods.

timalkin · 06-21-2004, 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by whocarz
Yes I'm sure all the high school aged British boys are running around wearing tight, foppish pants and cod pieces that accentuate their manhoods.

That's what I'm thinking too. You'll never see a boy walking around showing a little cockneck. My old high school requires both boys and girls to wear the same outfit everyday. That sounds like the best policy to me.

ObieX · 06-21-2004, 06:43 PM

I went to a catholic grammar school and highschool and we wore uniforms every day (of course the girls wore skirts). I think uniforms are a good idea. Keeps people's minds off of "looking cool" 24/7 and instead kept their minds pointed more toward what they were in school for in the first place.

06-20-2004, 08:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	my old high school is making international news!!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3823551.stm Mini-skirt row sparks school ban The school's head teacher says parents are happy with the ban A school has banned skirts because it did not want girls "going outside with a come hither look" after hemlines rose to "inappropriate" levels. Kesgrave High School near Ipswich in Suffolk ordered female students to wear trousers after some turned up in minis. Chairman of governors Margaret Young said they were impractical as well as immodest as many girls cycled to school The Equal Opportunities Commission says students could have a case for unlawful sex discrimination. The girls could claim they had been denied normal dress options, it was suggested. 'Dreadful' Governors' chairman Margaret Young said: "Two years ago we sent out letters to parents asking them to make sure skirts were regulation length which is just above the knee. "The impact was very short-lived and it wasn't long before skirts were very short again." A high percentage of the school's 1,600 pupils cycled to school and such short skirts looked "dreadful" on them, Mrs Young said. The school is obviously concerned about the sexualisation of young children but I think making all girls wear trousers is going too far Martin Goold, NUT She added: "We simply do not want our girls going outside with a 'come hither look'. I think many parents will find it enormously helpful." Head teacher George Thomas said: "There's going to be a uniform that gives all the girls and all the boys an equal chance to access in an appropriate style a very active curriculum and to make sure there is no embarrassment when girls are cycling to school. "We just think it's common sense." Martin Goold, Suffolk divisional secretary of the National Union of Teachers, said: "Thirty years ago we were getting equal opportunities cases where neither pupils nor teachers were permitted to wear trousers and now we seem to have gone completely the other way. 'Parents happy' "The school is obviously concerned about the sexualisation of young children but I think making all girls wear trousers is going too far." "The move could invite difficulties with parents and pupils over what might be considered normal attire." But Mr Thomas said parents were happy with the decision and that he had only had one letter of complaint. Earlier this month, a male student at Ringmer Community College in Lewes, Sussex, wore a skirt to college in protest at "sexist" school uniform rules. __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

06-20-2004, 08:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	Its on the front page of google news for "England" section, haha, this is so awesome. Mr Thomas was always a complete dick, his wife is the deputy head at the school and she always used to get pissed off with girls wearing short skirts! __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

06-20-2004, 08:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	Its even been picked up by the Australian! No skirting school ban From correspondents in London June 21, 2004 A SECONDARY school has banned girls from wearing skirts because too many were wearing them indecently short. The school is thought to be the first in the UK to take the extraordinary step of forcing female students to wear only trousers. Explaining the ban, George Thomas, head teacher of Kesgrave High School near Ipswich, Suffolk, said: "Some girls wear really short skirts, not helped by the fact that not many practical skirts are stocked by shops." "Many of our pupils cycle to school, and some of the things the girls wear are not suitable for this." From September, girls at Kesgrave High will have a choice of two styles of dark-blue trousers. The father of a 15-year-old girl said: "It's an extreme measure but I can see their point. But surely they could enforce a regulation skirt rather than ban them." http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...%5E401,00.html Ok, sorry - I wont post anymore, Im just excited. This is so funny! __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

06-20-2004, 09:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
Yakk Wehret Den Anfängen! Location: Ontario, Canada	Does the ban extend to men? I assume that this school has school uniforms? Always found that strange myself. __________________ Last edited by JHVH : 10-29-4004 BC at 09:00 PM. Reason: Time for a rest.

06-20-2004, 09:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	...and what happens when the girls start coming to school in super tight trousers? The tight pants might just accentuate their buttock regions or something.... oh what to do what to do I know -- Burquas all around -- yah - cover their heads up too... __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

06-20-2004, 09:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
analog Banned	Sounds like someone porked their daughter or soemthing. Seems very knee-jerk to be of any normal reasoning.

06-20-2004, 09:52 AM	#7 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	yeah, nearly all schools in the UK have uniform __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

06-20-2004, 10:17 AM	#9 (permalink)
stevie667 Too Awesome for Aardvarks Location: Angloland	I'm not complaining when it comes round to the schools around here, skin tight trousers are all good...

06-20-2004, 10:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
fuzyfuzer Insane Location: st. louis	we have discrimination in st louis private schools all the time a guy can not have longer hair while a girl can have it down to there waist if they wanted it just never seemed fair to me __________________ "The difference between commiment and involvment is like a ham and egg breakfast the chicken was involved but the pig was commited" "Thrice happy is the nation that has a glorious history. Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt

06-21-2004, 06:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	You probably all know by now that I despise dress codes and other unnecessary forms of control, especially those based on outdated moral objections to new things that older generations can't understand or accept. Calling them "Impractical as well as immodest" is about what I'd expect, as it's the closest you can get to calling it immoral and sinful without causing an uproar.

06-21-2004, 07:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
timalkin Addict Location: watching from the treeline	I appear to be the only one who agrees with the dress code restrictions. A school is supposed to be an environment where young people go to get an education and hopefully become contributing members of society. It should not be an amateur fashion show/stripclub where girls wear clothing that is too revealing. Where the fuck are the parent's of these girls? It seems as though nobody cares anymore. Just because you see something on MTV doesn't mean that it is appropriate or even acceptable in the education system.

06-21-2004, 09:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
DelayedReaction BFG Builder Location: University of Maryland	Step 1: Ban miniskirts. Step 2: ... Step 3: Profit! Seriously, I bet the guy is getting kickbacks from Levis or something. Better yet enforce a Catholic School Girl dress code; that'll DEFINITELY keep immodest thoughts from occuring... __________________ If ignorance is bliss, you must be having an orgasm.

06-21-2004, 06:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
ObieX Pickles Location: Shirt and Pants (NJ)	I went to a catholic grammar school and highschool and we wore uniforms every day (of course the girls wore skirts). I think uniforms are a good idea. Keeps people's minds off of "looking cool" 24/7 and instead kept their minds pointed more toward what they were in school for in the first place. __________________ We Must Dissent.