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05-18-2004, 10:12 AM

OOPS- this probably should be moved to Health.

Studies have come to a conclusion that drinking too much soda can lead to cancer........

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Esophageal disease could be connected to carbonated beverages

Updated: 12:19 p.m. ET May 18, 2004WASHINGTON - Carbonated drinks may raise the risk of esophageal cancer, a usually fatal disease, researchers reported on Monday.

Several studies presented at a meeting of cancer and gastrointestinal experts in New Orleans showed that what people eat and drink could affect a range of cancers.

“This research supports the widespread medical recommendations for healthy eating,” said Dr. Lee Kaplan of Massachusetts General Hospital and Harvard Medical School in Boston.

Rise in esophageal cancer
A team at Tata Memorial Hospital in India found a strong correlation between the rise in per capita consumption of carbonated soft drinks in the past 50 years and a documented increase in rates of esophageal cancer in the United States.

Team members studied U.S. Department of Agriculture data to find that per capita consumption of carbonated drinks rose by more than 450 percent, from 10.8 gallons (49 litres) on average in 1946 to 49.2 gallons (224 litres) in 2000.

And over the past 25 years, the incidence rates of esophageal cancer have risen by more than 570 percent in white American men. Esophageal cancer affected 13,900 U.S. men and women in 2003 -- more than 10,000 men -- and killed almost all of them, according to the American Cancer Society.

The number of esophageal cancer cases clearly followed the rise in intake of carbonated soft drinks, the researchers found.

That could be coincidence, but they also found research that showed a possible biological basis for the effect. Carbonated soft drinks cause the stomach to distend, which in turn causes the gastric reflux associated with esophageal cancer.

The researchers found similar trends worldwide. Countries with per capita annual consumption of more than 20 gallons of fizzy soft drinks also had rising rates of esophageal cancer.

“The surprisingly strong correlation demonstrates the impact of diet patterns on health trends,” Dr. Mohandas Mallath, who led the study, said in a statement.

Caffeine benefits
But another study showed a potential benefit from drinking coffee and other caffeinated beverages.

A team at the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Disease studied people with a high risk of liver problems and found those who drank more caffeine had fewer liver abnormalities.

They surveyed 5,944 adults at high risk for liver damage because of heavy drinking, hepatitis infection, iron overload or obesity.

The more coffee they drank, the more likely they were to have normal liver function, the researchers found.

“These results warrant further study,” said Dr. James Everhart, who helped lead the study.

Mephex · 05-18-2004, 10:18 AM

I'm just going to go ahead and say that too much of anything is a bad thing

Moderation ... plain and simple.

maleficent · 05-18-2004, 10:23 AM

Haven't had a soda in years, but I probably drink a 1/2 gallon of coffee a day - glad to see there's a benefit to it.

Polyphobic · 05-18-2004, 10:41 AM

I'm going back into my stasis bubble now.
Next time I wake up someone will have found nutritional value to sodas.

Phaenx · 05-18-2004, 10:47 AM

Cancer isn't so bad compared to morbid obesity. Which by the way, is the funniest word ever.

Morbidly obese. *giggle*

denim · 05-18-2004, 11:13 AM

Life leads to death. Period. We all gonna die of something.

Cynthetiq · 05-18-2004, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by denim
Life leads to death. Period. We all gonna die of something.

that's right...look at Flo Jo.. she excersized and ate right.. and died.

and we scratched our heads collectively WTF?

....

but on a real note... crap. I get all the soda I can drink here at the office. each floor has a soda fountain right next to the coffee maker.

maleficent · 05-18-2004, 11:28 AM

So what's the secret then? Drink beer? Any proof that beer is bad for you?

Cynthetiq · 05-18-2004, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by maleficent
So what's the secret then? Drink beer? Any proof that beer is bad for you?

beer belly

SabrinaFair · 05-18-2004, 11:40 AM

Lord. I'm gonna die.

Oh wait, I already knew that. :-P

kutulu · 05-18-2004, 01:09 PM

I hate to be so cynical about cancer, but everything seems to cause cancer.

forseti-6 · 05-18-2004, 01:47 PM

Yay to soda *finishes 3rd dr. pepper today.* I'll take this "study" with a grain of salt. I'm sure there's some study that say not drinking soda causes disease X and drinking soda prevents disease Y. Drinking soda while doing jumping jacks causes disease Z and shrinks your nads. You can't win. Drink and eat what you want. You only live once.

matteo101 · 05-18-2004, 02:23 PM

Meh, i don't drink that much as it is. But I might try to cut back abit. Actually I probably won't. But maybe I can use this to sound smart sometime..

zfleebin · 05-18-2004, 03:12 PM

I think its funny how this report includes almost no useful information on the research methods or results. The intro is also misleading because it makes it seem as if there is causation somewhere in this research when there is not. I mean seriously, all these guys have found is that esophogeal cancer rates have risen and soda intake has risen as well and they get funded for this stuff. I am beginning to feel sad about where cancer research is going.

afraidofninjas · 05-18-2004, 04:27 PM

I quit drinking it because it makes me swell up. If I drink 2 cans I will swell up by like 5 pounds... it's messed up, so I quit.

SpikeQX99 · 05-18-2004, 04:49 PM

Good Gawd man... what in the hell doesn't cause cancer anymore?

Next stop they're gonna tell us that breathing or having sex or swimming or something else is gonna cause cancer!

Here's to an early exit. I'm not stopping drinking soda for this stupid report!

Kostya · 05-18-2004, 05:12 PM

Dead man walking... dead man walking on the Green Mile, walking with Coke in his hands... delicious black gold... the essence of good and evil in a single beverage... affordable... sugar laden... Coke...

I can think of worse ways to die...

KellyC · 05-18-2004, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by SpikeQX99
Good Gawd man... what in the hell doesn't cause cancer anymore?

Next stop they're gonna tell us that breathing or having sex or swimming or something else is gonna cause cancer!

Here's to an early exit. I'm not stopping drinking soda for this stupid report!

yes...I wanna see a detailed report on what causes cancer. I bet it'll be like 10000 pages long...and still counting.

SpikeQX99 · 05-18-2004, 05:18 PM

NEWS FLASH!!

Reading posts on TFP causes cancer as does reading reports on what causes cancer!

Film at 11!!

05-18-2004, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by Mephex
I'm just going to go ahead and say that too much of anything is a bad thing

Moderation ... plain and simple.

Werd.

MSD · 05-18-2004, 07:16 PM

This just in: Being alive greatly increases your risk of cancer.

I'd rather be eaten alive by my own mutated cells than by something like Alzheimer's. People need to stop being so paranoid and uptight about what's going to give them cancer. What's the point in living your life if you run away form what makes it enjoyable?

If you want to reduce your risk of cancer, go live in a bubble. Then I'll point and laugh as your plastic bubble outgasses carcinogenic fumes.

iamnormal · 05-18-2004, 08:38 PM

I wounder if I can get a grant from the goverment to do a study on how liveing can cause death.

Mephex · 05-18-2004, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by MrSelfDestruct
If you want to reduce your risk of cancer, go live in a bubble. Then I'll point and laugh as your plastic bubble outgasses carcinogenic fumes.

Hey man, that was a great movie, don't knock it!

Laugh! · 05-18-2004, 09:03 PM

I saw that article and just laughed. Of course, drinking too much of something with a lot of chemicals in it will cause cancer.

I don't think the study necessarily related the right cause and effect. It simply states that as soda consumption increased, so did cancer. Americans have been exposed to so much more than just soda in the past couple of decades, so the increased risk of cancer could have come from anywhere - not just soda.

skier · 05-18-2004, 09:37 PM

I feel that the risk of becoming obese is much greater than cancer from drinking too much soda. And more dangerous as well.
Also, genetics plays such a large role in your lifespan that drinking a ew too many cans of pop won't make a noticable difference. I hear stories of 110 year old men who smoked for 60 years and drink to this day, and of 60 year old health addicts dying of stroke or cardiac arrest.
Enjoy your coke. Try not to drink more than 5 a day (I would try to stick with 1). Take things in moderation- they will have more value individually and collectively when supped, or used.

SixEdxMia · 05-18-2004, 10:22 PM

** Being alive greatly increases your chances of death **
Nothing will scare me from Diet Mt Dew. : /

iamnormal · 05-19-2004, 12:02 AM

Drinking too much water can give you water intoxication

Date the Banana · 05-19-2004, 02:23 AM

So what about if we mix alcohol with our soda? Then we get the benefits of the alcohol to counteract the harm of the soda, right? Nothing but rum-cokes for me from now on!

By the time they prove me wrong I'll already be dead!

Kostya · 05-19-2004, 05:01 AM

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Originally posted by SixEdxMia
Nothing will scare me from Diet Mt Dew. : /

Funny, nothing will ever help me overcome my morbid fear of Diet Mt Dew...

Klakash guy: 'I've got Mt Dew... or Crab Juice.'

Homer: 'Ewwwwwwww, I'll take the Crab Juice.'

Esoteric · 05-19-2004, 05:36 AM

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Originally posted by kutulu
I hate to be so cynical about cancer, but everything seems to cause cancer.

Seems like it. Everything now is leading to some kind of cancer.

SpikeQX99 · 05-19-2004, 03:56 PM

Listening to the news about "the shocking finds of what is in the water you drink!!"

If there's so much bad shit in our "drinking" water... I'll take my chances with coke.

Hopefully all the chemicals that are gonna kill us, will kill all the little critters in the water they use to make the soda with?

hunnychile · 05-19-2004, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by denim
Life leads to death. Period. We all gonna die of something.

Like Joe Jackson (that fine musician man) sings, "everything causes cancer..."

Yep dear ones - it's true, so do what you want,
oh yeah, in moderation though.

Hah, who cares anymore anyhow - spin that wheel of Karma!

sprocket · 05-19-2004, 06:07 PM

Not a real shocker.. soda isnt really good for you anyways.. the diet sodas are even worse than most regular sodas. drink water or juice if you want to be healthier.

05-18-2004, 10:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mephex Psycho	I'm just going to go ahead and say that too much of anything is a bad thing Moderation ... plain and simple. __________________ He who is void of virtuous attachments in private life is, or very soon will be, void of all regard for his country. There is seldom an instance of a man guilty of betraying his country, who had not before lost the feeling of moral obligations in his private connections. -Samuel Adams

05-18-2004, 10:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	Haven't had a soda in years, but I probably drink a 1/2 gallon of coffee a day - glad to see there's a benefit to it. __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

05-18-2004, 10:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
Polyphobic Runt Location: Denver	I'm going back into my stasis bubble now. Next time I wake up someone will have found nutritional value to sodas. __________________ <--The great infidel-->

05-18-2004, 10:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	Cancer isn't so bad compared to morbid obesity. Which by the way, is the funniest word ever. Morbidly obese. giggle __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

05-18-2004, 11:28 AM	#8 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	So what's the secret then? Drink beer? Any proof that beer is bad for you? __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

05-18-2004, 11:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
denim Banned Location: Massachusetts, USA	Life leads to death. Period. We all gonna die of something.

05-18-2004, 11:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
SabrinaFair Junkie Location: Louisville, KY	Lord. I'm gonna die. Oh wait, I already knew that. :-P __________________ "With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy." -Desiderata

05-18-2004, 01:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
kutulu Junkie	I hate to be so cynical about cancer, but everything seems to cause cancer.

05-18-2004, 01:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
forseti-6 Existentialist Location: New York City	Yay to soda finishes 3rd dr. pepper today. I'll take this "study" with a grain of salt. I'm sure there's some study that say not drinking soda causes disease X and drinking soda prevents disease Y. Drinking soda while doing jumping jacks causes disease Z and shrinks your nads. You can't win. Drink and eat what you want. You only live once. __________________ "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened." - Dr. Seuss

05-18-2004, 02:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
matteo101 In transition Location: north, no south abit, over to the right, getting warmer...there!	Meh, i don't drink that much as it is. But I might try to cut back abit. Actually I probably won't. But maybe I can use this to sound smart sometime..

05-18-2004, 03:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
zfleebin Addict	I think its funny how this report includes almost no useful information on the research methods or results. The intro is also misleading because it makes it seem as if there is causation somewhere in this research when there is not. I mean seriously, all these guys have found is that esophogeal cancer rates have risen and soda intake has risen as well and they get funded for this stuff. I am beginning to feel sad about where cancer research is going.

05-18-2004, 04:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
afraidofninjas Tilted Location: New Brunswick, Canada	I quit drinking it because it makes me swell up. If I drink 2 cans I will swell up by like 5 pounds... it's messed up, so I quit. __________________ I am a new tie wearink

05-18-2004, 04:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
SpikeQX99 The Best thing that never happened to you Location: Silverdale, WA	Good Gawd man... what in the hell doesn't cause cancer anymore? Next stop they're gonna tell us that breathing or having sex or swimming or something else is gonna cause cancer! Here's to an early exit. I'm not stopping drinking soda for this stupid report! __________________ I'm so in love with a girl... she is my everything

05-18-2004, 05:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
Kostya Little known... Location: Brisbane, Australia	Dead man walking... dead man walking on the Green Mile, walking with Coke in his hands... delicious black gold... the essence of good and evil in a single beverage... affordable... sugar laden... Coke... I can think of worse ways to die...

05-18-2004, 05:18 PM	#19 (permalink)
SpikeQX99 The Best thing that never happened to you Location: Silverdale, WA	NEWS FLASH!! Reading posts on TFP causes cancer as does reading reports on what causes cancer! Film at 11!! __________________ I'm so in love with a girl... she is my everything

05-18-2004, 07:16 PM	#21 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	This just in: Being alive greatly increases your risk of cancer. I'd rather be eaten alive by my own mutated cells than by something like Alzheimer's. People need to stop being so paranoid and uptight about what's going to give them cancer. What's the point in living your life if you run away form what makes it enjoyable? If you want to reduce your risk of cancer, go live in a bubble. Then I'll point and laugh as your plastic bubble outgasses carcinogenic fumes.

05-18-2004, 08:38 PM	#22 (permalink)
iamnormal Addict Location: In the id	I wounder if I can get a grant from the goverment to do a study on how liveing can cause death.

05-18-2004, 09:03 PM	#24 (permalink)
Laugh! Upright Location: Dallas	I saw that article and just laughed. Of course, drinking too much of something with a lot of chemicals in it will cause cancer. I don't think the study necessarily related the right cause and effect. It simply states that as soda consumption increased, so did cancer. Americans have been exposed to so much more than just soda in the past couple of decades, so the increased risk of cancer could have come from anywhere - not just soda.

05-18-2004, 09:37 PM	#25 (permalink)
skier Rawr! Location: Edmontania	I feel that the risk of becoming obese is much greater than cancer from drinking too much soda. And more dangerous as well. Also, genetics plays such a large role in your lifespan that drinking a ew too many cans of pop won't make a noticable difference. I hear stories of 110 year old men who smoked for 60 years and drink to this day, and of 60 year old health addicts dying of stroke or cardiac arrest. Enjoy your coke. Try not to drink more than 5 a day (I would try to stick with 1). Take things in moderation- they will have more value individually and collectively when supped, or used. __________________ "Asking a bomb squad if an old bomb is still "real" is not the best thing to do if you want to save it." - denim

05-18-2004, 10:22 PM	#26 (permalink)
SixEdxMia <3 Peetster Location: Peetster's house.	Being alive greatly increases your chances of death Nothing will scare me from Diet Mt Dew. : / __________________ Honey,We're home.

05-19-2004, 12:02 AM	#27 (permalink)
iamnormal Addict Location: In the id	Drinking too much water can give you water intoxication

05-19-2004, 02:23 AM	#28 (permalink)
Date the Banana Insane Location: Japan	So what about if we mix alcohol with our soda? Then we get the benefits of the alcohol to counteract the harm of the soda, right? Nothing but rum-cokes for me from now on! By the time they prove me wrong I'll already be dead! __________________ all work and no play make Date something something

05-19-2004, 03:56 PM	#31 (permalink)
SpikeQX99 The Best thing that never happened to you Location: Silverdale, WA	Listening to the news about "the shocking finds of what is in the water you drink!!" If there's so much bad shit in our "drinking" water... I'll take my chances with coke. Hopefully all the chemicals that are gonna kill us, will kill all the little critters in the water they use to make the soda with? __________________ I'm so in love with a girl... she is my everything

05-19-2004, 06:07 PM	#33 (permalink)
sprocket Psycho Location: In transit	Not a real shocker.. soda isnt really good for you anyways.. the diet sodas are even worse than most regular sodas. drink water or juice if you want to be healthier. __________________ Remember, wherever you go... there you are.