mtsgsd

This was passed on to me and is supposedly form Andy Roonie. Don't know if that's true but I like what is said!


Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back: (for those of you that don't know Andy Rooney, he is an 82 year old US TV commentator)

I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.

Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?

I have the right NOT to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.

When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.

I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!

My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours. I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry self if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word freeze or stop in English, see the above lines.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.

We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.

I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor.

I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you from watching them.

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you. (Al)

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say "NO!"

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.

And if you don't like my point of view, tough. DON'T PASS IT ON!!

krwlz

I also like it, makes a ton of sense, but Im doubtful as to it being dirtectly from andy rooney.

bparker805

I got this in an email about a month ago and just read it shaking my fists in the air saying," go roonie go!" I dont know if it really was a direct quote or not. One that I really liked was:

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John Henry

Cheers for the link. Snopes rocks.

As for whoever the author actually was, I think some words of wisdom from The Big Lebowski are appropriate here

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ledhead

whether he said it or not, i do not care but,

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twilightfoix

I couldn't agree any fucking more. I mean our national language is English. We're not like Canada where we have two national languages english and spanish. it's just english. either speak it or get the fuck out. the whole not speaking english really strikes a cord with me as i'm a telemarketer and the people that either speak no english or little english are really fucking rude or stupid. sometimes i can't tell. damn this has got me worked up, i gotta step away for a second

Stare At The Sun

I don't care who wrote it, i agree with it totally!

spived2

Thanks for the snopes link, it supported my theory that it was probably taken from George Carlin. Whoever they are, I like what's written here and support it 100%.

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RoboBlaster

Hmm, we don't have an official language. Um, white people don't need anymore help. They already are sitting on the top.

present_future

Yeah, right on top of the list of qualified high school students who are rejected in favor of less qualified minority students just so the college can fill their quotas.

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Fenton-J-Cool

Awesome. I'm sorry.. I'm not a racist, don't get me wrong, but you tell me that's not the truth.

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guthmund

I'm white. I must be on the top cause I got all the money and bitches I can handle. No if you'll excuse me, I have to go swim in my pool of cash (a la Scrooge McDuck) and place a very important call to my pal Alan Greenspan.

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filtherton

I think all of us white people can remember the last time we were pulled over by the police for being white. Wait. No. Whoops. I forgot that white people don't get pulled over because they are white.

I don't think affirmative action is the answer, but it is clear to me that white people have been benefitting from de facto affirmative action for a long fucking time. Until i hear white people complaining about all of the ways they benefit from such things while they're complaining about other races benefitting from aa i could care less about the plight of the poor, put off white person. Cry me a river. Don't play the victim and you won't be a victim.

filtherton

I wonder how far columbine would've gone with a baseball bat?

I agree, i don't like it when people make me uncomfortable. God forbid i should be wrenched from my ethnocentric little world.


What about 70% when only 25% is black? That allright too?

Don't get me wrong, though. I'll still give you my money.


Actually, i think they died for our freedoms. One of which is to disrespect our country.

Yeah! Welfare is for poor people and multinational corporations.


Does he even know why we did go the aid of certain foreign countries?

You should be commended.

Any criticism of the free market system means that you're a whiner suffering from entitlement.

Perhaps you can keep your wrinkly, pockmarked ass at home too, lest anyone be exposed to someone whose looks make them feel uncomfortable.


A matter of preference.

Done.

kl0pper

^ nice

CSflim

filtherton: well done sir! Much respect!

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aarchaon

People who don't speak english aren't stupid. Are you stupid because you don't speak Chinese, or Spanish or Swahili?

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Strange Famous

I disagree with almost everything I said, I believe he speaks for the minority of interests in America, he speaks for the all of the worst ideals and everything that is negative.

Just reading this actually makes me start to feel physically angry, not only the basic wrongness of what he says, but the arrogant smugness of his tone, the way he imagines or portrays himself as speaking for ordinary people and common sense.

60 Minutes should face fines for airing this sort of thing - on the basis that Janet Jacksons bared breast offends the nation, this kind of intolerant, racist, hateful and nasty minded rant is surely a lot more offensive to a decent sense of morality.

The children of the nation are going to be harmed a great deal more by being exposed to people like Rooney than they are by being exposed to a bizzare nipple piercing.

And of course, the "speak English" comment is especially offensive and ridicolous... didnt you all know it was the Spanish who colonised America first? If you cant speak Cherokee, then learn Spanish old man, THAT is the language of the European Americans... it isnt the Spanish speaking people who are outsiders in America, it is those who speak English, they are the outsiders, they are the one's to be excluded... they were there first, and if you cant understand Spanish, either learn to speak it old man, or stop complaining that you cannot understand the American language, or get the hell out and move to England where they speak your language.

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Strange Famous

1, you are a telemarketer... this does afford you a great deal of moral high ground. Of course people are rude, when you call them up in the evening when they are trying eat dinner or relax and try to force some sales pitch for some product they probably dont want on them. English speaking has nothing to do with it, when telemarketers call me it annoys the hell out of me too, and I am English, and can even speak English well enough to be able to spell words like "colour" and "paedophile"

2, I am not going to repeat what I already said - America was settled by Spanish speaking people, not English speakers. Spanish is the natural language of America, not English. If you cant speak Spanish, then you are speaking a foriegn language... how on earth can you get upset with American people because they dont speak your foriegn language? Maybe you should move to England too, we speak English here.

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Nisses

read the snopes-link, 4th post in the thread.
Same for people that believed it was something written by George Carlin.

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kulrblind

Are you suggesting that people shouldn't be able to speak another language in the USA? Agreed, the official language may be english, but that only requires them to serve you in the marketplace and provide government services to you in that language.

Don't presume to tell people what language they can speak in their homes, on the streets, on the subway. The people you reach as a telemarketer are not soliciting your service (are they?), and thus are not required to understand you, no matter what language you, or they speak.

SabrinaFair

Wow, that'd be a great quote...if I were a rich, white, English speaking, patriotic male.

If I'm that close-minded at any point in my life, 82 or not, someone PLEASE tell me to keep my opinions to myself.

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kl0pper

that was definately NOT patriotic
ignorant nationalism wrapped up in the american flag does not = patriotism

Skettios

Filtherton beat me to it. I don't particularly care for any of these.

No offense to the poster, but a lot of these are total crap, bordering on racism.

Andy Rooney, doesn't speak like that, he's not a racist, he's not even really a conservative. I've been watching him for many years, and his gripes never reach this level of political speech.

In my opinion, much of this is conservative tripe, trying to disguise itself as seemingly common sense. Messages like:

and

and

This is America. We were all new here once. Once upon a time, we all spoke a different language, and needed a hand up. Hello? Anybody listening? I'm not going to say it again.

Are so nasty and closed minded, that I don't feel they really even have a place on the TFP.

Maybe in Tilted Politics, or maybe on Sean Hannity's board with the rest of the closed-minded nasties, but certainly not in 'General Discussion' under the heading 'Great Quote'.

They aren't great, in fact there's a lot of other words I would use instead of 'great', how about, nasty, close-minded, hateful, hurtful, ignorant, spiteful, brutish, sick, backwars, or maybe just 'offensive'.

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Skettios

Nope.

George Carlin, while funny and clever (which these statements are not), is a confirmed liberal.

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water_boy1999

I don't agree with many of his close minded views, but there are several comments he makes that I do agree with. Point is, he is exercising his first amendment right as an American. We can get all riled up over a few comments he makes, but remember that there are few countries where you wouldn't be jailed, fined, beaten, etc. for speaking your mind.

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RoboBlaster

Considering 60% of Black Americans have an income less than the majority of White americans, it would seem that Whites are on top.

filtherton

That's not relevant. Nobody's trying to deny anyone's rights. Except for the quoted, whoever he is, would seem content to not have to deal with others who are exercising their rights. Indeed, most of the things he complains about are instances where people are merely exercising their rights. He seems pretty riled up about other people exercising their rights. In fact, i'd wager that this fellow would have no problem with people being jailed or beaten if they happened to not agree with him.

yournamehere

Let's face it - all the remarks are right wing, conservative opinions.
How many of them you agree with just shows where you stand politically.

Being (I think) a moderate, I agree with some, and disagree with some.

But let's quit blaming Andy Rooney - he never authored this. Nor did George Carlin.

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Ilow

lol...so let me get this straight, when you call people at home during the dinner hour you would like them to speak proper English so that you can bother them properly and make sure that you fully understand their objections before administering your "objection handlers" so that you can bother them more; and you support your arguement about language with liberal use of obscenities, which are generally considered the basest form of language. hmmm

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sprocket

If you are a white male, try growing out your hair and driving a volkswagon beetle.. see how often you get pulled over. You will get pulled.. A LOT.. simply for your appearance. Cops pull over people who they think look like criminals. I seriously doubt a black man dressed like your usual suburban caucasion dork is going to get pulled more frequently than your usual caucasion suburban dork.

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MSD

And he's not a racist. Most of these views are not just conservative, they're discriminatory. Andy Rooney is a cool guy, I'd be disappointed if he started spewing crap like that.

filtherton

Are you claiming that white privilege doesn't exist? That's not even a good comparison. The point is many black people don't have to go out of their way to look suspicious in the eye of your average racial profiler. The average cop may be right when he assumes that the average hippy looking fella probably has drugs on him. Unfortunatly there has been at least one study that i'm aware of that found that the police are more likely to pull over nonwhites than whites. How would you feel if it was fairly normal for your average white person between the ages of 16 and, say, 60 to get pulled over simply because they "fit the description" or "looked suspicious"? Does that sound good to you?

I'm not trying to claim that all cops are bigots. I'm just trying to point out just one of the ways that white people have been reaping the benefits of unofficial aa for a long time.