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Old 02-02-2004, 04:14 PM   #121 (permalink)
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There was no way that was unplanned, i mean look at his hand. He has that thing in a death grip, oh he knew what he was doing.
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Old 02-02-2004, 04:34 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Found something on the CNN.com article:



That is a little more believable.

Also, according to that article, this even got attention from the White House. Unreal!
Hard to believe we are at war and the White House is more interested in this. Gotta love this country..... where's the sanity?
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Old 02-02-2004, 04:52 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Jackson just admitted in a written statement on CNN that the stunt was planned. Said she was sorry to CBS, MTV, and that she alone takes the blame.

They were running this byline with the statement:

"Nation Recovers After Lone Breast Briefly Visible on TV"
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Old 02-02-2004, 05:20 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Jackson just admitted in a written statement on CNN that the stunt was planned. Said she was sorry to CBS, MTV, and that she alone takes the blame.

They were running this byline with the statement:

"Nation Recovers After Lone Breast Briefly Visible on TV"
She is apologizing for MTV's sake because MTV is gonna lose the rights to do another Halftime Show.

It was obviously staged. They pathetically tried to blame a wardrobe error and that the pink bra wasn't supposed to go with it

If that was the case, she wouldn't have been wearing a nipple tassel, and there is no way one bra cup would rip off so perfect like that.
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Old 02-02-2004, 05:52 PM   #125 (permalink)
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123 replies to this thread and it's barely been 24 hours...

if we put as much passion and energy into other issues... we could really kick some ass!

i really don't see the big deal... it's a nipple people... a nipple...
no one would have gotten upset if the nipple had never showed... all the other sexual inuendo is accepted at "status quo"... and most of us think nothing of seeing people killed, multilated and splatted all over the screen...

it just seems like a huge waste of energy over something so trival in the grand scheme or "social injustices"
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Old 02-02-2004, 06:17 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Old 02-02-2004, 07:21 PM   #127 (permalink)
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I'm not going to budge regarding the damaging nature of sexual-assault mass-media chic. Not going to accept a white kid doing it to an older black woman as anything other than majorly socially irresponsible, either.

We're talking about a giant conglomerate mega-buck mass demographic media power-play when young kids are participating - tuning in to a family-hour event. Totally inappropriate and inexcusable.

Kids' minds are totally unable to deal with the kind of ultra-high-powered psychologically manipulative ruined role-modeling and negative self-image bombardment they are assaulted with on a daily basis. The fact that you, as an adult, have some sort of way of rationalizing all this is not on the same level as cramming it wholesale into very highly impressionable young minds, is it?
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Old 02-02-2004, 07:28 PM   #128 (permalink)
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She doesn't look very attractive in the picture.
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Old 02-02-2004, 07:51 PM   #129 (permalink)
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All I could think about was how much that must have hurt to be inserted in her nipple.
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Old 02-02-2004, 08:06 PM   #130 (permalink)
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their whole routine really sucked.....and if it was not staged, why didn't he put the cover back on or she could have at least tryed to cover it up---

let's just hope someone doesn't put it on the titty board...
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Old 02-02-2004, 08:24 PM   #131 (permalink)
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no big deal there. but i do have to say nice nipple
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:05 PM   #132 (permalink)
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I'm not going to budge regarding the damaging nature of sexual-assault mass-media chic. Not going to accept a white kid doing it to an older black woman as anything other than majorly socially irresponsible, either.

We're talking about a giant conglomerate mega-buck mass demographic media power-play when young kids are participating - tuning in to a family-hour event. Totally inappropriate and inexcusable.

Kids' minds are totally unable to deal with the kind of ultra-high-powered psychologically manipulative ruined role-modeling and negative self-image bombardment they are assaulted with on a daily basis. The fact that you, as an adult, have some sort of way of rationalizing all this is not on the same level as cramming it wholesale into very highly impressionable young minds, is it?
your point is very valid and well spoken...
i have to remind myself that this (The Superbowl) is typically marketed as a family event...
so, the beast that is "mass-media-mind-control" is crossing yet another boundary...

getting harder to delinate the lines these days... between each of our realities...
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:19 PM   #133 (permalink)
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your point is very valid and well spoken...
i have to remind myself that this (The Superbowl) is typically marketed as a family event...
so, the beast that is "mass-media-mind-control" is crossing yet another boundary...

getting harder to delinate the lines these days... between each of our realities...
I was almost shocked... but in the end I was just disappointed for these very reasons.
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:35 PM   #134 (permalink)
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i missed the half-time show, but it appears that i didn't miss anything worth missing.

i just wonder why no one is mentioning those hideously ugly pants that timberlake was wearing. now there's the crime.
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Old 02-02-2004, 10:29 PM   #135 (permalink)
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I'm not going to budge regarding the damaging nature of sexual-assault mass-media chic. Not going to accept a white kid doing it to an older black woman as anything other than majorly socially irresponsible, either.

We're talking about a giant conglomerate mega-buck mass demographic media power-play when young kids are participating - tuning in to a family-hour event. Totally inappropriate and inexcusable.

Kids' minds are totally unable to deal with the kind of ultra-high-powered psychologically manipulative ruined role-modeling and negative self-image bombardment they are assaulted with on a daily basis. The fact that you, as an adult, have some sort of way of rationalizing all this is not on the same level as cramming it wholesale into very highly impressionable young minds, is it?
BINGO - Thank you Art. As the day wore on I increasingly became more pissed off about this whole affair. Some smarmy jerk decided that rather than showcase talent, shock value would be the target. Manipulative bastards using this, a near American holiday, to promote record sales, to 'pull one off' pardon the pun. My sons are now old enough that this was not a big deal to them. But if they were 10 years younger, we would have all been glued to the TV for the half time show. And that would have been an akward moment that quite frankly parents shouldn't have to deal with considering that this is a family event. If I were watching Sex and the City or a movie on cable, I would have known what to expect. But not here. There needs to be some safe havens in this world. Just as there needs to be some TFPs. And we must be able to exercise our choice when we want to view either. The FCC is probably right in investigating this. I'm not in favor of puritanical restrictions on the media (I'm here, after all) but some forms of expression are best reserved to atmoshperes where its universally accepted.
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Old 02-02-2004, 11:01 PM   #136 (permalink)
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i love jj as a hot woman but the following sums up my thoughts on this silliness:

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/journal...23&action=view
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Old 02-02-2004, 11:03 PM   #137 (permalink)
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i just wonder why no one is mentioning those hideously ugly pants that timberlake was wearing. now there's the crime.
Khakis? But I like Khakis

Anyways, I'm with art, et al on this one. I'd elaborate, but Craven Morehead pretty much said all I would. It's sad really.
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Old 02-03-2004, 02:04 AM   #138 (permalink)
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I'm with you WhoaitsZ. I can't belive this is so controversial. Any 7 year old kid I know would just snigger.

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Old 02-03-2004, 04:57 AM   #139 (permalink)
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what was the naked person at halftime.... CBS didn't show it.. or really talk about what it was.. any news?
I saw a brief pic of the 'streaker' on the BBC website, and I do believe it is our very own world record holding streaker from little old Liverpool.

This guy has streaked at every major event you can imagine, that is why he is in the Guiness Book of World Records.

And now the Super Bowl.

Well in Scouse!!!

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Old 02-03-2004, 05:01 AM   #140 (permalink)
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Kids' minds are totally unable to deal with the kind of ultra-high-powered psychologically manipulative ruined role-modeling and negative self-image bombardment they are assaulted with on a daily basis. The fact that you, as an adult, have some sort of way of rationalizing all this is not on the same level as cramming it wholesale into very highly impressionable young minds, is it?
I'll never agree with you on this topic. I think it's one of the few things we tend to disagree on.

If a kid can't deal with seeing a tit it's because the child is being raised by an ultra-sensitive pussy who can't deal with the real world, and certainly shouldn't be rasing a child. I saw shit way worse than this when I was a kid and it was no big deal at all. When I was 3 I remember watching shows on discovery or some shit like that, which were about sex. Those shows showed boobs and other crap like that. I saw a video of a child being born when I was 3. It had a close-up of the chics bloody snatch. So what.

Why do you think that a child can't handle seeing a boob? A child doesn't sexualize a boob like me or you.
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Old 02-03-2004, 05:22 AM   #141 (permalink)
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Sixate... i agree with you *GASP*... yes, i agree with you
to a point of course. ... it's just a breast folks... sexuality is a normal part of life... as it nudity... to shelter our children from the "evils" of nudity is, in my mind, ridiculous...

now... let's add these observations:
Nelly rubbed his penis more time than i could count... P Diddy came in like the typical "gansta ... the "hoocie" dancers (yes, that's my interperetation) and everything else pushed the show to an extreme level...
yet everyone has focused on Janet Jackson's NIPPLE! she is getting the most flack here... not Justin, not P.Diddy, not Nelly...
if someone is gonna scream up the show being too sexual... better start talking about ALL the performers...
i have spoke before on my feelings about nudity, the human body, and why Americans get so freaked out over something so natural and beautiful...
it's just a nipple folks... a breast... she is a woman... it's really OK.

okay... move on to what ART is saying...

i think ART is referring to the blurred racial lines and stereotypes that were blatently supported by the entire show...
...a young white man being forcefully sexual with a black woman, while all the world cheers and claps...

what i appreciate about ART's post it that is points out the subtler messages in the show regarding reace and violence, expecially when it was marketed toward a family audience... that is food for thought...

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Old 02-03-2004, 05:28 AM   #142 (permalink)
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Old 02-03-2004, 05:32 AM   #143 (permalink)
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I think children can handle seeing natural human nakedness, no problem.

I do not think children can handle multi-million dollar culture-for-profit campaigns that consist of total-immersion barrages of negative behavior portrayed as cool, chic, or hip by very insidious and outrageously bad role models who are propped up by hugely powerful corporate interests.

I do not see the children of this country doing very well under the cynical mega-buck manipulation conducted by the so-called music and entertainment industry.

What I do see is kids who are full of negative self-images, full of virulent fantasies of sexual assault, disrespect of self and others, aping behaviors of phony rebellion taught to them by trash culture merchants. I see the insidious effect of the media conglomerates and their amoral marketing campaigns as having a deleterious effect on all of us.

My issue is not with public nakedness. You'll recall I defended at length the presence of children at responsible nudist and naturist camps.

The difference between what occurred at the Superbowl and natural human nakedness is the issue - not human nakedness itself.
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Old 02-03-2004, 05:51 AM   #144 (permalink)
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Heh, yeah, and I was against the children in nudist camps.

Weird how that works, huh?

Either way, I just don't see why such a big deal is being made out of this. If kids can't handle the bullshit the media puts in their face then parents need to do a better job of teaching them things. What you see as a problem with the media I see as a problem with parenting.
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Old 02-03-2004, 05:59 AM   #145 (permalink)
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On a side note, the music industry is totally pathetic, and I'm glad they're getting ripped off.

Now, if only I could invent a program that punches commercial writers in the face I'd be set.

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Heh, yeah, and I was against the children in nudist camps.

Weird how that works, huh?

Either way, I just don't see why such a big deal is being made out of this. If kids can't handle the bullshit the media puts in their face then parents need to do a better job of teaching them things. What you see as a problem with the media I see as a problem with parenting.
There's a huge difference between seeing something that's totally stupid and participating in something thats totally stupid.
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Old 02-03-2004, 06:31 AM   #146 (permalink)
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No wonder she looked horrified.(Janet Jackson)

When there wasnt anything holding it up, we find there wasnt too much there. or in other words "Where is the Beef"?
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Old 02-03-2004, 06:38 AM   #147 (permalink)
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Old 02-03-2004, 07:00 AM   #148 (permalink)
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no, sorry, don't have a clue either...probably talking about the sort of sagging look the costume gave her?
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Old 02-03-2004, 07:14 AM   #149 (permalink)
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Old 02-03-2004, 07:44 AM   #150 (permalink)
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Sixate... i agree with you *GASP*... yes, i agree with you
to a point of course. ... it's just a breast folks... sexuality is a normal part of life... as it nudity... to shelter our children from the "evils" of nudity is, in my mind, ridiculous...
I agree with you Spring, But I think the big deal is two fold. One, It was on national TV. and two, It's Janet Jackson. how often has she posed nude??

I always thought she had a lovely body. and was delighted to have this little treat. As was Ladyhawke. who is a big Janet fan.
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Old 02-03-2004, 08:28 AM   #151 (permalink)
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apparently he's a large breast lover, that or some outfits tend to make people think that someones breasts are larger than they are, and when everything comes out the truth is shown
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Old 02-03-2004, 08:38 AM   #152 (permalink)
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Yeah, I think he's saying she's not all he expected her to be. I have a question though...why didn't this go into the Janet Jackson superbowl thread that we already have?
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Old 02-03-2004, 11:18 AM   #153 (permalink)
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Yeah, I think he's saying she's not all he expected her to be. I have a question though...why didn't this go into the Janet Jackson superbowl thread that we already have?
Which one?
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Old 02-03-2004, 12:47 PM   #154 (permalink)
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Now THIS has gone too far:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110261,00.html

CBS is probably going to axe Janet and Justin from this Sunday's Grammy's. That is just plain RIDICULOUS and overboard. I want to see Britney and Madonna banned from MTV since I'm sure more children watch MTV than the superbowl, if it's the children thing we're going by here. Complete BS man...
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Old 02-03-2004, 12:50 PM   #155 (permalink)
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Now THIS has gone too far:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110261,00.html

CBS is probably going to axe Janet and Justin from this Sunday's Grammy's. That is just plain RIDICULOUS and overboard. I want to see Britney and Madonna banned from MTV since I'm sure more children watch MTV than the superbowl, if it's the children thing we're going by here. Complete BS man...
I was kind of hoping they add a group/performer that I actually care about. My jaw dropped as I saw the list of "stars" performing at the Grammys.
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Old 02-03-2004, 01:26 PM   #156 (permalink)
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Officials at TiVo, the popular device that lets people record and replay live TV, reported that the moment was the most "TiVoed" in the company's history ...
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Officials at TiVo, the popular device that lets people record and replay live TV, reported that the moment was the most "TiVoed" in the company's history ...

awesome I love my tivo.. and if helps people see more B( . Y . )Bs then so be it!
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I wonder if it was on someone's mind to try to take away some of the public scrutiny from Michael Jacksons' trial?
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I'm not going to budge regarding the damaging nature of sexual-assault mass-media chic. Not going to accept a white kid doing it to an older black woman as anything other than majorly socially irresponsible, either.

We're talking about a giant conglomerate mega-buck mass demographic media power-play when young kids are participating - tuning in to a family-hour event. Totally inappropriate and inexcusable.

Kids' minds are totally unable to deal with the kind of ultra-high-powered psychologically manipulative ruined role-modeling and negative self-image bombardment they are assaulted with on a daily basis. The fact that you, as an adult, have some sort of way of rationalizing all this is not on the same level as cramming it wholesale into very highly impressionable young minds, is it?
You're totally right.
I was wondering why CBS and the NFL was making such a huge deal out of it.
I didn't really think about it being sexual-assualt and a bad influence towards children. It wasn't just the 'breast'.
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I wonder if it was on someone's mind to try to take away some of the public scrutiny from Michael Jacksons' trial?
Nah, it was more to do with boosting potential record sales but that's a very clever point, kudos.

Now both Jacko's are wacko's.
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