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Old 08-26-2003, 02:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fights - Fair or Whatever It Takes

When you get into a fight, do you fight fair, or do whatever it takes to beat the guy's ass into the ground?

Just wondering. . No reason.
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Old 08-26-2003, 02:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There's no such thing as dirty fighting..It's either Me or Him and if I get him on the ground, I will be feeding my shoe into his face with as much kicking power as I have.
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Old 08-26-2003, 02:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ok, thanks.

So basically honor in fights doesn't exist?
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Old 08-26-2003, 02:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 08-26-2003, 02:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ok, thanks.

So basically honor in fights doesn't exist?
Never did. I dont like fights but I would never back down from one, and anything goes
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Old 08-26-2003, 03:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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These days...The quicker you boot fuck him..The better.

I think the majority of people would do the same as i would do, Do anything it takes to make sure you hurt him and not the other way around.

And I love how people say "Just Walk Away" Ya ok...I will turn and walk away from somebody that wants to kick my ass...So as soon as my back is turned he is on top of me feeding me his fist.


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Old 08-26-2003, 03:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If I were to get into a fight, it would only be because there was no way out of it, or to protect someone who was in imminent danger. I'm not talking about duking it out because some looked at my girlfriend, or anything, but the real deal, like you will be seriously hurt or killed by someone. In this case, all bets are off, and my only concern would be to stop the assailant.

Honor has no place in a fight like this. This is not sparring for points, so there are no rules.
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Old 08-26-2003, 03:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 08-26-2003, 03:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Don't fight. Resolve with intelligence.
The person I want to beat, doesn't have a hint of intelligence, he just runs his mouth and misinterprets everything and gets pissed at people for no reason whatsoever.
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Old 08-26-2003, 03:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
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No such thing as a fair fight....
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The person I want to beat, doesn't have a hint of intelligence, he just runs his mouth and misinterprets everything and gets pissed at people for no reason whatsoever.
So it sounds like you want to beat this guy up because he said something about you. If you know that he's an idiot ("doesn't have a hint of intelligence") why does it bother you so much?
As for your question, if I had to get into a fight, I would fight fair - in regards to fists and feet. Bringing a weapon into a fight, yeah tough guy.
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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If you have some.
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:24 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
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You can overcome anything with enough intelligence. Don't think that just because a person can't be reasoned with means a fight is necessary. Perhaps a lesson is in order.
Ok, this is what this person is like.

Me and my friend are just talking, and I say something funny, and my friend starts cracking up, the guy walks past us, and is like, "What's so funny?" and proceeds to punch my friend in the shoulder, and then he goes "Don't talk about me." Me and my friend start yelling at him and saying he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, but he sticks to his guns...

Next thing, we see him in the next class and he starts talking about how rich he is and shit, and then the next thing I know he's asking me for a piece of paper, so I just go, "If you're so rich, then why can't you afford a pack of paper?" He thinks I mean this personally and he goes "I used to be poor, but my family is rich now." I just tell him to fuck off.

The next day I see him again, and this time he's running his mouth pretending to know everything about the world, etc, etc...

So then I go, "You don't know what you're talking about, please stop talking." He goes, "You know I can kick your ass." I agree, by saying, "What's your point?" And this goes on for awhile, and finally go, "I'll find you and kill you." Again he thinks I'm going to kill him in school or in public or whatever, so he goes "What about my family?"

For some reason, after that, he stopped being an ass, but he still thinks he knows what he's talking about, I have never gotten into a fight or anything like that, but I think this kid needs to learn a lesson before he starts running his mouth.
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:32 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You can always just wait behind a shrubbery with a baseball bat. Not, technically, a fight if he's only hit once and doesn't get a chance to hit back.

Or you could take the mature approach and just stay away from him (and stay out of jail, assault and battery sometimes leads to prison rape).
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:34 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Sounds like highschool crap. Just ignore it, don't be the one to pick a fight. It's usually not worth it, especially in school. Just let him go on how he does and don't let it get to you. If he starts a fight though, then it's no holds barred. Kick his ass the best you can.
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:36 PM   #18 (permalink)
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The two fights I've been in, I fought damn dirty. No honor in fighting. Do it to win.

I also dont start fights, self defense only
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:37 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Btw, I'm usually very peaceful and open to people.

I'm loud as well, but it's usually just joking around and stuff.

But last year, my anger must have burst out or something, because I kept finding myself, restraining my anger and stuff.
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:47 PM   #20 (permalink)
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No such thing as a fair fight....
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Don't fight. Resolve with intelligence.
If he happens to wake up tied to a street sign naked then you were intelligent enough to get him and it wasn't a fight so there's no need to worry about what someone thinks is fair.

Intelligence can solve a lot. As can walking away. But there is still a time that you will have to stand up for yourself or someone you care about. Fair is a word. It won't stop you from getting hurt if you tell the other person that's not fair.
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:55 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Fight dirty for sure.

Getting hit hurts and thats no good.
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Old 08-26-2003, 05:00 PM   #23 (permalink)
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beat the mother fucker up!
some people will always act like dickheads because they've never had to face the consequences of their actions. So by kicking the shit out of him, your really doing him a favour.
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Old 08-26-2003, 05:17 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Don't fight. Resolve with intelligence.
This is my method now, but when I was in school that didn't work.

Being the short, fat kid with glasses gets you into a lot of fights, just by walking down the hall. They usually under-estimated me though. I fought back by any means possible. Kicking, gouging, biting, whatever it took. After a while I got a reputation as being a scrapper and they left me alone. The bullies generally like the kid who doesn't fight back.


While intelligence still rules as the way to end a confrontation, don't get me wrong. If backed into a corner, I will fight my way out of it by any means necessary.
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Old 08-26-2003, 05:59 PM   #25 (permalink)
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physical fights are to be avoided.

mind games, however, are to be played as dirty as you can possibly manage.
j/k.
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Old 08-26-2003, 06:07 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I avoid them with intelligence.

However, sometimes the other person is not gifted with this.

While I'd rather avoid them.
If it gotten to that point, then I finish it as quick as possible.

But I have an advantage, I've been trained...so I make it happen quick.

If it's just myself...then I'm usually avoiding the situation.
But I "Hate" bullies.
And if I see someone getting bullied, then be careful.
Because I will protect that person.

You've picked the WRONG fuckin' day to be an asshole.
And I'll prove it to you.

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Old 08-26-2003, 06:09 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I vote with Halx.
It can be done.
If you have some.
sorry... I have tried... and ended up with a sucker punch right hook to the eye. Then he ran away... I ended up with cut eye.

So no dice with the intelligence. I'm giving it a moment if it doesn't seem to be happening, I'm going to be proactive.
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Old 08-26-2003, 06:15 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Last "fight" I was in was in elemantary school...I was a little bad ass. I fought really dirty...But i also picked everyother fight.

In high school, THere was one fight, but i ended up turning it into restraning the kid, and letting a teacher handle it. Didnt pick that one either....He tried to fight dirty, and I never blamed him.

Fair means nothing when your bleeding on the ground.
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Old 08-26-2003, 06:23 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Hmm, I'm good at manipulating people...ideas...ideas...
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Old 08-26-2003, 06:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
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neither.
physical fights are to be avoided.

mind games, however, are to be played as dirty as you can possibly manage.
j/k.
I've never been in a fight, and I don't plan on it happening. BUT, if I have to.. I'll start off fair, but it depends how the other reacts to the fight. If they try to go cheap.. skipping side kick to the nuts.

Now, to the quote. Minds games dude. thats the way to go... just confuse the heck out of them, and then disarm them... Its not a fight when they can't do anything.
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Old 08-26-2003, 06:36 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I always generally tried to avoid beating up on people. But sometimes it can't be avoided, and faces need punched. Luckily for me this is what I'm good at, the face punching, whatever it takes to do the job works.
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Old 08-26-2003, 06:40 PM   #32 (permalink)
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You can overcome anything with enough intelligence. Don't think that just because a person can't be reasoned with means a fight is necessary. Perhaps a lesson is in order.
Sorry Halx, that doesn't work in my world. I deal with too many people who either lack the intelligence to avoid a fight or sadistic/masochistic enough to insist on fighting. With these morons if you don't fight to kill, you get the crap beat out of you.

Fair fight? All's fair in love and war, and when I'm forced to fight it's gonna be a fucking war.
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Old 08-26-2003, 06:47 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I'm a big fan of hair pulling, pinching and scratching.

I'm a small guy and if I find myself in a fight I'm gonna do whatever it takes to beat the other person senseless.
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Old 08-26-2003, 07:10 PM   #34 (permalink)
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mind games, however, are to be played as dirty as you can possibly manage.
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Old 08-26-2003, 07:38 PM   #35 (permalink)
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i go with fair

then again, if i started to get my ass kicked fighting honorably and it was important, i'd probably go for whatever it takes

don't know.. haven't been in the situation much
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Old 08-26-2003, 09:02 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Unlike what most have done, either saying to fight or not to fight. I'm gonna ask what YOU did to get into this situation. See, it takes more than 1 person to fight. Here's HOw you got yourself in this situation. Please know that this is to help you avoid this petty situation. That is fighting leads to worse things, like getting kicked out of school, getting your ass thrown in jail, etc.

Me and my friend are just talking, and I say something funny, and my friend starts cracking up, the guy walks past us, and is like, "What's so funny?" and proceeds to punch my friend in the shoulder, and then he goes "Don't talk about me." Me and my friend start yelling at him and saying he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, but he sticks to his guns...

See, here, you were talking and minding your own business UNTIL this guy starts yapping. BUT, instead of letting it go, you and your friends told him that he didn't know "what the fuck he's talking about." Ok, so this is your first step into this confrontation.

Next thing, we see him in the next class and he starts talking about how rich he is and shit, and then the next thing I know he's asking me for a piece of paper, so I just go, "If you're so rich, then why can't you afford a pack of paper?" He thinks I mean this personally and he goes "I used to be poor, but my family is rich now." I just tell him to fuck off.

Again, instead of either ignoring him or responding in a civilized manner, you chose to instigate and once again told him to "fuck off." This is the second step towards a confrontation which can be avoided but instead you CHOSE to antagonize him and edge him on.

The next day I see him again, and this time he's running his mouth pretending to know everything about the world, etc, etc...So then I go, "You don't know what you're talking about, please stop talking." He goes, "You know I can kick your ass." I agree, by saying, "What's your point?" And this goes on for awhile, and finally go, "I'll find you and kill you." Again he thinks I'm going to kill him in school or in public or whatever, so he goes "What about my family?"

Here, for the THIRD time, you got into a verbal confrontation by CHOICE. Then lastly, you THREATENED "I'll find you and kill you." DUDE wake the hell up, you started this whole pile of shit and you're blaming the other guy for being a dick?

For some reason, after that, he stopped being an ass, but he still thinks he knows what he's talking about, I have never gotten into a fight or anything like that, but I think this kid needs to learn a lesson before he starts running his mouth.

So as far as I can tell this other guy's problem is that he's a "smart-ass" and THAT is what's bothering you. He hasn't done anything to you. Actually it's the opposite. YOu told him to "fuck off" TWICE. then on the third time, you threatened to "kill" him.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time. But if you SLOW down long enough and break YOUR OWN ACTIONS down, then you'll see that somewhere along the way you DECIDED to start things.

The responses from some of the other fellow TFPer's have been in situations where your life was in danger or someone just wanted to kick your ass for no reason.

AL9045, I'm trying to get you to see that we all make choices and many of the times, we choose to get into these situations.
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Old 08-26-2003, 10:10 PM   #37 (permalink)
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If it gets to a fight, I do whatever it takes.

But otherwise, I'm an expert at avoiding them.
It's fun when you can get drunk people who wants to fight you to buy you beer.

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"Uuuuh... You wanna beer...?"

You have to do this kind of stuff with a really kind and honest smile, though. You have to get people off base, and get them to realize that they could beat you easily, and that you never even realized that they wanted to fight you in the first place.
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Old 08-27-2003, 06:52 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Ok, this is what this person is like.

Me and my friend are just talking, and I say something funny, and my friend starts cracking up, the guy walks past us, and is like, "What's so funny?" and proceeds to punch my friend in the shoulder, and then he goes "Don't talk about me." Me and my friend start yelling at him and saying he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, but he sticks to his guns...

Next thing, we see him in the next class and he starts talking about how rich he is and shit, and then the next thing I know he's asking me for a piece of paper, so I just go, "If you're so rich, then why can't you afford a pack of paper?" He thinks I mean this personally and he goes "I used to be poor, but my family is rich now." I just tell him to fuck off.

The next day I see him again, and this time he's running his mouth pretending to know everything about the world, etc, etc...

So then I go, "You don't know what you're talking about, please stop talking." He goes, "You know I can kick your ass." I agree, by saying, "What's your point?" And this goes on for awhile, and finally go, "I'll find you and kill you." Again he thinks I'm going to kill him in school or in public or whatever, so he goes "What about my family?"

For some reason, after that, he stopped being an ass, but he still thinks he knows what he's talking about, I have never gotten into a fight or anything like that, but I think this kid needs to learn a lesson before he starts running his mouth.
No offense, but it doesn't appear that you are using much restraint or intelligence in handling this guy. Telling him to fuck off for such bullheaded remarks isn't going to make him go away. Sounds like you are almost trying to get under his skin and it is working.

Now, if a fight were to ensue, which would obviously be a very last resort in my book, make sure you get him before he gets you. The last thing you want to do is get hurt, right? So, put him in a position where you will be out of harms way. Dodge his first hit, then come back with a swift kick to the nads or a short chop to his neck to knock his windpipe into orbit. After that, anything goes.
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Old 08-27-2003, 07:26 AM   #39 (permalink)
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only fought once in the last 10 years and 3 times in total in my life. last time : somebody attacked my wife. i'm against fighting but sometimes you just pop a fuse. still i could keep enough control not to mess him up too bad. or he me if i would have been unlucky

when i'm in Ecuador i wouldn't even consider fighting, they shoot you for winking at their girlfriend so... i'm 200 % peace when i'm there.
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Old 08-27-2003, 07:35 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I haven't gotten in a fight since grade school. Back then though, it was all dirty. There was kicking, punching, name calling..

Today I'd like to say I reason out with words, but I've never really been in a confrontation serious enough to need talking-down from a fight.
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