BuDDaH, do you remember? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

oldtimer · 07-26-2003, 07:20 PM

Quote:

I would like to complain about TFProject.org (aka Tilted Forum Project.) The administrator of this web site formerly used the name TFProject.com, but changed it to .org, proudly proclaiming that he did not have anything to sell, hence the extension change.

However, after using this site for a few months, the administrator decided to start demanding payment and/or photo submissions as payment. He called those who were not contributing in one of these ways "lurkers" and gave a week for the so-called "lurkers" to pay money or contribute photos. At the end of the week, he took action to prohibit "lurkers" from accessing the site and closed registration to new users. I feel this is an attempt at extorting money from site users who have no desire to pay. He said he changed the extension from .com to .org because he wasn't selling anything. This has certainly become misleading because now he charges to visit the site.

I was properly registered and want to continue using the site. But extortion is not the way to go. I believe he should reopen his site to anyone, as long as he uses the .org extension. If he still wants to charge for site admission, I believe he should be required to change his extension back to .com. I also believe he should be required to notify anyone who ever visited his site that he has changed his policy and telling us what he has decided to do about it.

Thank you.

Rodale

Then BuDDaH:

Quote:

I like your concept, if it is really there to bring TRUE justice out into light. This email is to set the misconception about Tilted Forum Project (www.tfproject.org) straight, and in doing so, I hope you'll post it to show people should not use your resources to create sympathy for their causes. Not only the complaint you have received is misleading, you posted it without checking for fiction or facts.

From Justice Junction:
We were able to verify certain portions of Rodales complaint, enough to post the story.

From TFP:
Now, I will not argue with Rodale, (even though he and his buddies were kicked from our site for abusing the services and stealing from our resources) I shall ignore any reference to him in this email.

Complaint:
"The administrator of this web site formerly used the name TFProject.com, but changed it to .org, proudly proclaiming that he did not have anything to sell, hence the extension change."

TFP's Response:
The Tilted Forum Project has NEVER been .com, nor have ever had an extension change. TFP is a privately owned site, and the owner has the RIGHT to refuse entry to anyone while exercising that same right to allow entry to anyone.

Complaint:
"However, after using this site for a few months, the administrator decided to start demanding payment and/or photo submissions as payment. He called those who were not contributing in one of these ways "lurkers" and gave a week for the so-called "lurkers" to pay money or contribute photos. At the end of the week, he took action to prohibit "lurkers" from accessing the site and closed registration to new users."

TFP's Response:
The TFP has been around much longer than few months. We have an community of 23,000 members (until recently), 16 forums, our own IRC channel. We just AXED 15,000 people for inactivity. To explain in short, people who has signed up but do not use their opportunity to become part of this community. We have a couple of forums of adult oriented content that our members took on their own initiative to create for themselves, in which generates very much interest to others.

We have had this problem of people who are not doing anything but treat our site as a "pr0n" site, entering the members forum and "hot linking" our members private collections or personal pictures to OTHER forums without their explicit permission. Also these same people do nothing but flood the site, put unwanted stress on our resources, create unnecessary bandwidth to our site and tie up our server that our members cannot reach the site. The TFProject is not a public owned site, it isn't YAHOO or Microsoft, and no one has a RIGHT to it. We do not have a public service to offer. We run as we do, just like you. I noticed you have this on your page: "We are calling on all of our readers to help support Justice Junction! If you enjoy this site please help us keep it going with your donation. Methods of payment are Paypal or money order. To make a donation, please click here." We run on the same method as you do. We say, "If you like our site, you DON'T have to contribute with a donation, contribute by posting your appreciation to the post you enjoy. Become part of this community."

Complaint:
"I feel this is an attempt at extorting money from site users who have no desire to pay. He said he changed the extension from .com to .org because he wasn't selling anything. This has certainly become misleading because now he charges to visit the site. I was properly registered and want to continue using the site. But extortion is not the way to go. I believe he should reopen his site to anyone, as long as he uses the .org extension. If he still wants to charge for site admission, I believe he should be required to change his extension back to .com. I also believe he should be required to notify anyone who ever visited his site that he has changed his policy and telling us what he has decided to do about it."

TFP's Response:
I shall say again: The TFProject is a PRIVATELY OWNED site and has NEVER been registered under the .com registration. You do not have some "right" to it. And has NEVER charge any fee to allow admittance. In 6 months, we have had over 16,000 accounts with ZERO activity. Not one post. It shows these accounts have not tried to involve themselves into our community, why keep them? We have had posted warnings for 4 months that we will delete inactive accounts, but seeing that most of these people NEVER even browsed beyond our "Titty Board", they would have seen it and taken measures to avoid being deleted.

Well I will end this little "rant", hopefully it will get posted on your site, and it will show future "complainers" that you aren't here to be taken advantage of your services either. Feel free to drop by our chat channel #tfp on irc.irvingnet.net for a chat. We also started our "screening" process through there, you should come witness some of the attitudes of these people who wish to gain admittance..

Hope to see any of you,
BuDDaH
Administrator
TFProject.org

Right on, BuDDaH!

Though this leaves me with an odd feeling that "Rodale" is still lurking around this forum today....who could it be?

billege · 07-27-2003, 09:56 AM

I remember that stuff.

BuDDah put that guy in a head lock, and bitch-slapped him. The dude was calling him mommy when it all was over. Then BuDDah threw him on the ground, pepper sprayed <i>himself</i> in the face (just to "feed the rage"), then kicked the guy on the floor.

Then BuDDah picked up a chair, and sat down on it.

Man those were some good times, good times.

Cynthetiq · 07-27-2003, 10:52 AM

wow... I remember that..that was posted what.. v.2 or early v.3?

World's King · 07-27-2003, 10:57 AM

I think that came about during v.3?

Either way that has to be the best response to a pointless complaint I've ever read.

YourNeverThere · 07-27-2003, 11:17 AM

wow that was great

spectre · 07-27-2003, 03:32 PM

It was v3 that it was posted.

oldtimer · 07-27-2003, 04:50 PM

I'm glad to be bringing back the stories and continue on the tradition...

JStrider · 07-27-2003, 05:44 PM

i remember that... and i remember the vid clip of budah take a shot of mace... geezers looked like it hurt...

Great Scott · 07-28-2003, 02:58 AM

Geez that gave me the chills.

BoCo · 07-28-2003, 06:28 AM

Ah, the good ol' days....

I still have that vid of BuDDaH macing himself, too.

etla · 07-28-2003, 10:57 AM

That was hillarious. The guy was such a wanker.

chavos · 07-28-2003, 11:31 AM

"And here on our right, is a shivering mass of fear, which was formerly human. This sub-species, known as Whineus Bitchea, is a particularly nasuating breed, complaining at the least provocation. Prior to it's treatment by Buddah, it opened it's mouth, and nothing came out, except a bunch of jibberish, as if the muthafucker forgot about Hal.

To your left, we see it's close relative, Lurkeus Maximus...."

I can just imagine the tour of the Internet Zoo now....

WhoaitsZ · 07-28-2003, 01:08 PM

my respect for BuDDah finally rises. great job, indeed.

very, very exellently said and handled reaction to a dipshit. *clapclap*

Eviltree · 07-28-2003, 06:35 PM

And there was much rejoycing.

'yay'

Slims · 07-28-2003, 06:55 PM

I remember that. I don't remember the mace though. Could someone post it again? (in tilted exhibition?)

Glad-I-Ate-Her · 07-28-2003, 08:02 PM

Buddah always knew how to "smack down" those who went out of line. Because of him (and a few others), TFP is today what it is because of his tireless work. Way to go Buddah!!

Ouch! I still remember Buddah gettin maced! That was rough looking at it even though it didn't happen to me!!

It was definitely TFPv3.

Glad

oldtimer · 07-28-2003, 08:28 PM

BuDDaH maced?? This I know nothing of. With BuDDaH's consent, please post. Not for entertainment but out of sheer curiousity.

billege · 07-29-2003, 07:26 AM

It wasn't freaking mace. It was pepper spray.

There is a big goddamn difference between the two. I have also had some experience with pepper spray training, however, I was not required to take a full shot in the face. We simply had to put on latex gloves, and rub some under our eyes, on our faces. You get the idea.

Either way,

Mace is a tearing agent. It makes your eyes and nose run so much you can't see very well.

Pepper spray is a whole hell of a lot more painful...
It strips the moisture off your eyes, blinking feels like fire. It is also a mad skin irritant, so your face feels like it's burning.

I understand people use the terms synonymously, but the experiences are quite different. I'd take a shot of mace over pepper spray anyday.

MikeyChalupa · 07-29-2003, 07:40 AM

Still comes up as #2 when doing a Yahoo! search on "TFProject.org"

-Mikey

water_boy1999 · 07-29-2003, 09:41 AM

Being a newbie myself and trying to become more involved with this community, I find it fascinating reading some of the arguments people come up with. They write these looooong novels about how they were somehow wronged by TFP. They make assumptions that even being a newbie I don't agree with.

When people want to bitch, they need to get their facts in order before writing because they are only making themselves look that much dumber for asserting what they believe to be truth, and what the truth really is.

WhoaitsZ · 07-29-2003, 09:43 AM

...... you guys are serious? he pepper sprayed himself?

no offense to buddah but anyone goofy enough to do that deserves exposure. we need this video!

baaa · 07-29-2003, 09:52 AM

i just wish i could still see the boobies. it make me sad when i don't see them.

billege · 07-29-2003, 10:11 AM

He didn't <i>really</i> pepper spray himself. Although, I believe he is capable of it!

The video shows him at a pepper spray training course, he gets a full shot of pepper spray right in the face. Then he staggers around being manly while trying to keep standing, and breathing.

He's not around here too much anymore...where'd he go?

07-27-2003, 09:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
billege Watcher Location: Ohio	I remember that stuff. BuDDah put that guy in a head lock, and bitch-slapped him. The dude was calling him mommy when it all was over. Then BuDDah threw him on the ground, pepper sprayed <i>himself</i> in the face (just to "feed the rage"), then kicked the guy on the floor. Then BuDDah picked up a chair, and sat down on it. Man those were some good times, good times. __________________ I can sum up the clash of religion in one sentence: "My Invisible Friend is better than your Invisible Friend."

07-27-2003, 10:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	wow... I remember that..that was posted what.. v.2 or early v.3? __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

07-27-2003, 10:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
World's King Here Location: Denver City Denver	I think that came about during v.3? Either way that has to be the best response to a pointless complaint I've ever read. __________________ heavy is the head that wears the crown

07-27-2003, 11:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
YourNeverThere Practical Anarchist Location: Yesterday i woke up stuck in hollywood	wow that was great __________________ The Above post is a direct quote from Shakespeare

07-27-2003, 03:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
spectre Junkie	It was v3 that it was posted. __________________ "Fuck these chains No goddamn slave I will be different" ~ Machine Head

07-27-2003, 04:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
oldtimer Addict	I'm glad to be bringing back the stories and continue on the tradition... __________________ Slowly but surely getting over the loss of TFP v. 3.0. Where the hell am I?.... Showering once a month does not make you a better person. "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." Martin Luther King, Jr.

07-27-2003, 05:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
JStrider Poo-tee-weet? Location: The Woodlands, TX	i remember that... and i remember the vid clip of budah take a shot of mace... geezers looked like it hurt... __________________ -=JStrider=- ~Clatto Verata Nicto

07-28-2003, 02:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
Great Scott Insane Location: In a huge maze just trying to find my cheese	Geez that gave me the chills.

07-28-2003, 06:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
BoCo Fear the bunny Location: Hanging off the tip of the Right Wing	Ah, the good ol' days.... I still have that vid of BuDDaH macing himself, too. __________________ Activism is a way for useless people to feel important.

07-28-2003, 10:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
etla Junkie Location: Canada eh?	That was hillarious. The guy was such a wanker. __________________ Subvert the Dominant Paradigm

07-28-2003, 11:31 AM	#12 (permalink)
chavos Banned Location: St. Paul, MN	"And here on our right, is a shivering mass of fear, which was formerly human. This sub-species, known as Whineus Bitchea, is a particularly nasuating breed, complaining at the least provocation. Prior to it's treatment by Buddah, it opened it's mouth, and nothing came out, except a bunch of jibberish, as if the muthafucker forgot about Hal. To your left, we see it's close relative, Lurkeus Maximus...." I can just imagine the tour of the Internet Zoo now....

07-28-2003, 01:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
WhoaitsZ Crazy Location: right behind you...	my respect for BuDDah finally rises. great job, indeed. very, very exellently said and handled reaction to a dipshit. clapclap

07-28-2003, 06:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
Eviltree Psycho Location: British Columbia	And there was much rejoycing. 'yay'

07-28-2003, 06:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	I remember that. I don't remember the mace though. Could someone post it again? (in tilted exhibition?) __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence

07-28-2003, 08:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
Glad-I-Ate-Her Junkie Location: 1 mile from Ground Zero	Buddah always knew how to "smack down" those who went out of line. Because of him (and a few others), TFP is today what it is because of his tireless work. Way to go Buddah!! Ouch! I still remember Buddah gettin maced! That was rough looking at it even though it didn't happen to me!! It was definitely TFPv3. Glad __________________ I'm "Glad I Ate Her" because the payback was worth it!!

07-28-2003, 08:28 PM	#17 (permalink)
oldtimer Addict	BuDDaH maced?? This I know nothing of. With BuDDaH's consent, please post. Not for entertainment but out of sheer curiousity. __________________ Slowly but surely getting over the loss of TFP v. 3.0. Where the hell am I?.... Showering once a month does not make you a better person. "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." Martin Luther King, Jr.

07-29-2003, 07:26 AM	#18 (permalink)
billege Watcher Location: Ohio	It wasn't freaking mace. It was pepper spray. There is a big goddamn difference between the two. I have also had some experience with pepper spray training, however, I was not required to take a full shot in the face. We simply had to put on latex gloves, and rub some under our eyes, on our faces. You get the idea. Either way, Mace is a tearing agent. It makes your eyes and nose run so much you can't see very well. Pepper spray is a whole hell of a lot more painful... It strips the moisture off your eyes, blinking feels like fire. It is also a mad skin irritant, so your face feels like it's burning. I understand people use the terms synonymously, but the experiences are quite different. I'd take a shot of mace over pepper spray anyday. __________________ I can sum up the clash of religion in one sentence: "My Invisible Friend is better than your Invisible Friend."

07-29-2003, 07:40 AM	#19 (permalink)
MikeyChalupa Squid Location: USS George Washington	Still comes up as #2 when doing a Yahoo! search on "TFProject.org" -Mikey

07-29-2003, 09:41 AM	#20 (permalink)
water_boy1999 Fly em straight! Location: Above and Beyond	Being a newbie myself and trying to become more involved with this community, I find it fascinating reading some of the arguments people come up with. They write these looooong novels about how they were somehow wronged by TFP. They make assumptions that even being a newbie I don't agree with. When people want to bitch, they need to get their facts in order before writing because they are only making themselves look that much dumber for asserting what they believe to be truth, and what the truth really is. __________________ Doh!!!! -Homer Simpson

07-29-2003, 09:43 AM	#21 (permalink)
WhoaitsZ Crazy Location: right behind you...	...... you guys are serious? he pepper sprayed himself? no offense to buddah but anyone goofy enough to do that deserves exposure. we need this video!

07-29-2003, 09:52 AM	#22 (permalink)
baaa Banned Location: ville	i just wish i could still see the boobies. it make me sad when i don't see them.

07-29-2003, 10:11 AM	#23 (permalink)
billege Watcher Location: Ohio	He didn't <i>really</i> pepper spray himself. Although, I believe he is capable of it! The video shows him at a pepper spray training course, he gets a full shot of pepper spray right in the face. Then he staggers around being manly while trying to keep standing, and breathing. He's not around here too much anymore...where'd he go? __________________ I can sum up the clash of religion in one sentence: "My Invisible Friend is better than your Invisible Friend."