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BuDDaH, do you remember?
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I would like to complain about TFProject.org (aka Tilted Forum Project.) The administrator of this web site formerly used the name TFProject.com, but changed it to .org, proudly proclaiming that he did not have anything to sell, hence the extension change.
However, after using this site for a few months, the administrator decided to start demanding payment and/or photo submissions as payment. He called those who were not contributing in one of these ways "lurkers" and gave a week for the so-called "lurkers" to pay money or contribute photos. At the end of the week, he took action to prohibit "lurkers" from accessing the site and closed registration to new users. I feel this is an attempt at extorting money from site users who have no desire to pay. He said he changed the extension from .com to .org because he wasn't selling anything. This has certainly become misleading because now he charges to visit the site.
I was properly registered and want to continue using the site. But extortion is not the way to go. I believe he should reopen his site to anyone, as long as he uses the .org extension. If he still wants to charge for site admission, I believe he should be required to change his extension back to .com. I also believe he should be required to notify anyone who ever visited his site that he has changed his policy and telling us what he has decided to do about it.
Thank you.
Rodale
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Then BuDDaH:
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I like your concept, if it is really there to bring TRUE justice out into light. This email is to set the misconception about Tilted Forum Project (www.tfproject.org) straight, and in doing so, I hope you'll post it to show people should not use your resources to create sympathy for their causes. Not only the complaint you have received is misleading, you posted it without checking for fiction or facts.
From Justice Junction:
We were able to verify certain portions of Rodales complaint, enough to post the story.
From TFP:
Now, I will not argue with Rodale, (even though he and his buddies were kicked from our site for abusing the services and stealing from our resources) I shall ignore any reference to him in this email.
Complaint:
"The administrator of this web site formerly used the name TFProject.com, but changed it to .org, proudly proclaiming that he did not have anything to sell, hence the extension change."
TFP's Response:
The Tilted Forum Project has NEVER been .com, nor have ever had an extension change. TFP is a privately owned site, and the owner has the RIGHT to refuse entry to anyone while exercising that same right to allow entry to anyone.
Complaint:
"However, after using this site for a few months, the administrator decided to start demanding payment and/or photo submissions as payment. He called those who were not contributing in one of these ways "lurkers" and gave a week for the so-called "lurkers" to pay money or contribute photos. At the end of the week, he took action to prohibit "lurkers" from accessing the site and closed registration to new users."
TFP's Response:
The TFP has been around much longer than few months. We have an community of 23,000 members (until recently), 16 forums, our own IRC channel. We just AXED 15,000 people for inactivity. To explain in short, people who has signed up but do not use their opportunity to become part of this community. We have a couple of forums of adult oriented content that our members took on their own initiative to create for themselves, in which generates very much interest to others.
We have had this problem of people who are not doing anything but treat our site as a "pr0n" site, entering the members forum and "hot linking" our members private collections or personal pictures to OTHER forums without their explicit permission. Also these same people do nothing but flood the site, put unwanted stress on our resources, create unnecessary bandwidth to our site and tie up our server that our members cannot reach the site. The TFProject is not a public owned site, it isn't YAHOO or Microsoft, and no one has a RIGHT to it. We do not have a public service to offer. We run as we do, just like you. I noticed you have this on your page: "We are calling on all of our readers to help support Justice Junction! If you enjoy this site please help us keep it going with your donation. Methods of payment are Paypal or money order. To make a donation, please click here." We run on the same method as you do. We say, "If you like our site, you DON'T have to contribute with a donation, contribute by posting your appreciation to the post you enjoy. Become part of this community."
Complaint:
"I feel this is an attempt at extorting money from site users who have no desire to pay. He said he changed the extension from .com to .org because he wasn't selling anything. This has certainly become misleading because now he charges to visit the site. I was properly registered and want to continue using the site. But extortion is not the way to go. I believe he should reopen his site to anyone, as long as he uses the .org extension. If he still wants to charge for site admission, I believe he should be required to change his extension back to .com. I also believe he should be required to notify anyone who ever visited his site that he has changed his policy and telling us what he has decided to do about it."
TFP's Response:
I shall say again: The TFProject is a PRIVATELY OWNED site and has NEVER been registered under the .com registration. You do not have some "right" to it. And has NEVER charge any fee to allow admittance. In 6 months, we have had over 16,000 accounts with ZERO activity. Not one post. It shows these accounts have not tried to involve themselves into our community, why keep them? We have had posted warnings for 4 months that we will delete inactive accounts, but seeing that most of these people NEVER even browsed beyond our "Titty Board", they would have seen it and taken measures to avoid being deleted.
Well I will end this little "rant", hopefully it will get posted on your site, and it will show future "complainers" that you aren't here to be taken advantage of your services either. Feel free to drop by our chat channel #tfp on irc.irvingnet.net for a chat. We also started our "screening" process through there, you should come witness some of the attitudes of these people who wish to gain admittance..
Hope to see any of you,
BuDDaH
Administrator
TFProject.org
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Right on, BuDDaH! 
Though this leaves me with an odd feeling that "Rodale" is still lurking around this forum today....who could it be?
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Last edited by BuDDaH; 07-28-2003 at 07:01 AM..
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