12-12-2010, 07:46 AM | #82 (permalink) | |
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12-13-2010, 06:09 AM | #83 (permalink) |
I'll be on the veranda, since you're on the cross.
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Between the .40 and 9mm for general target practice, I prefer the 9mm. In my experience, minimal recoil, cheap to shoot, readily available. A 9mm loaded with personal defense type ammunition remains my standard for concealed carry/what I carry in my vehicle. It is compact, it is cheap enough to practice with, it is fun to shoot, and between two loaded magazines I have in the neighborhood of 30 rounds of ammunition at my disposal. Much more I would hopefully ever need, God forbid I ever were to be in a situation where I needed to use it.
I've got a love/hate relationship with the .40's. I've owned a handful, and maybe I just haven't found the one I like. Somehow I always have a lot of .40 ammunition on hand after getting rid of one, and instead of being smart and giving it away, I keep it on hand, knowing I will buy another one eventually. I like the idea of the stopping power and velocity. I don't really like the recoil. it is much "sharper/" violent than I personally care for. All of that being said, I've got a 9mm that I love to shoot, and it is one of those firearms that will forever be my concealed carry equipment. I also have a new to me .40 that I have yet to shoot, and it even smaller than my 9mm standby. The difference being double the magazine capacity on the 9mm, and as it turns out, my particular model is sort of difficult to find magazines for.
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12-13-2010, 01:37 PM | #85 (permalink) |
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WOW, quite a lot of comment...so here again is my .02.
9mm loaded with any of the self defense rounds is all you need, and it is a nice caliber to just go to the range and shoot. 40 cal is a bit much..but you should go to a range where you can rent both and see how you feel. I will say this and probably get "flamed" for it, the chances that you are going to need to use a gun to protect yourself is very slim, then again better to have it than not. Whatever you choose, if you intend to "carry" look into compact weapons...my everyday carry is a Sig Saur P238 which is a .38 short... and carries very easily..even in a pocket holster I have been carrying for 40 years and have NEVER HAD TO UNHOLSTER MY WEAPON. BUT, that said...I'm feeling more threatened every day.... |
12-13-2010, 01:56 PM | #86 (permalink) |
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I'm noticing more and more Floridians here every day.
I have a lot of .45s, primarily because one of my first purchases was a 1911. However, for every day shooting, the 9mm is much more plentiful and costs about 2/3rds .45ACP. I decided to go with 9mm primarily for logistics reasons. A properly loaded 9mm should suit my needs well enough. Besides, I did not like how snappy the .40 S&W 'felt' in my hands. |
12-13-2010, 02:00 PM | #87 (permalink) | |
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edit: oh just to explain, since I'll probably be asked, the other 5 times I relied on reflex, speed, and awareness. I've been in two fights, nearly 2 others that would have been lethal but they backed off. The 2 fights I was in I was skilled enough not to be touched, and simply laughed at them until they walked away. And of course the other incident I had a gun and he didn't...guess who ran away.. Last edited by Zeraph; 12-13-2010 at 02:04 PM.. |
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12-18-2010, 10:58 PM | #88 (permalink) | |
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12-19-2010, 08:31 AM | #89 (permalink) |
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Originally Posted by Zeraph
edit: oh just to explain, since I'll probably be asked, the other 5 times I relied on reflex, speed, and awareness. I've been in two fights, nearly 2 others that would have been lethal but they backed off. The 2 fights I was in I was skilled enough not to be touched, and simply laughed at them until they walked away. And of course the other incident I had a gun and he didn't...guess who ran away.. Read more: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...m-40-caliber-3 .html#ixzz18ZS2HBEv Well, at approximately 3 times your age, and, I've been "carrying" for about 40 years, I guess I'm just lucky never to have needed to use a gun or my fists. Brooklyn and Fort lauderdale must be very safe |
12-19-2010, 09:17 AM | #90 (permalink) |
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C'mon, kids... let's take the politics and ninja talk somewhere else. We all know that StrangeFamous would punk both of you bitches.
Back on topic: Modern 9mm loads are more than suitable for self defense. Also relevant, given the caliber debate: READ ME Guy gets into "Oh shit!" CCW situation. Caliber doesn't matter as long as it's a 9/40/45. Capacity and ease of use seem to matter. Last edited by Plan9; 12-19-2010 at 09:24 AM.. |
12-20-2010, 09:15 AM | #91 (permalink) | |
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Can't tell if this is a joke or not, cause I think you already know. I've been into martial arts since I was a kid (like 10 years old). I enjoy it because its a path for me for personal enlightenmeant.
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