Seacamp .32 need info - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Daka · 07-15-2010, 04:14 AM

Anyone have any insights .... need a simple weapon for my wife...
She says the S/W Mod 60 is too heavy and bulky
It's either that or whe wants my Sig P238, (she ain't gettin' mine, I'd have to buy another one)

The_Dunedan · 07-15-2010, 06:33 AM

Well-built guns with an excellent reputation.

However:

Expensive, bulky for their size, hard to find at times. If you -do- get one, make sure it's chambered for .32ACP and not .32NAA. .32NAA is a neat little round, but -very- hard to find. Personally, if a .32 is what you're after, I'd go with the Kel-Tec over the Seecamp unless she's totally sold on it and nothing else will do. The K-T is lighter, thinner, much less expensive, and you can get 10rd mags and pocket clips for them. Has she tried any other weapons she likes? Can she tolerate a more powerful load (9x19, .38SPL, .40S&W, etc?)

Plan9 · 07-15-2010, 01:01 PM

Avoid .32. Get her a "real gun." If she can handle a S&W J-frame (in aluminum .38 instead of steel .357) or a Glock 19, its a far better choice.

Daka · 07-15-2010, 04:59 PM

Thanks guys
She won't carry the S/W snubbie, too bulky and heavy...needs to be carried in her purse...here in FL holster on slim women don't work.

Walt · 07-16-2010, 01:18 PM

Have you considered a Ruger LCP in .380?

Plan9 · 07-16-2010, 01:28 PM

The Keltec PF9 and the Walther PPS also fit into that size category.

I'm curious as to how petite this woman is that she can't pack a hand-filler.

Florida or not, women always have purses and most of 'em wear bras.

Walt · 07-16-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Daka

Thanks guys
She won't carry the S/W snubbie, too bulky and heavy...needs to be carried in her purse...here in FL holster on slim women don't work.

At the risk of sounding like a dick; has your wife ever fired the smaller pocket pistols (Kel-Tec, Seacamp, LCP, etc)? I ask because the pocket rockets are a champ to carry but the lightweight pistol + semi-powerful rounds can make your weekly practice sessions a little unpleasant. FWIW, I find my LCP's recoil to be MUCH more uncomfortable than that of my G20 with +P ammo.

Plan9 · 07-16-2010, 05:01 PM

Yeah, a .38 Spec Derringer bites far more than a useful carry pistol.

Fire · 07-18-2010, 08:35 PM

I would go with a lighter pistol in about the same size for the above reason- maybe look at the glock 26- flatter than a j-frame, and more rounds, recoil about the same to me, (though I only fired one once) and twice the rounds in a slightly better caliber for stopping people.... those tiny guns HURT to shoot at times, and do not thus get practiced with enough- decided some time ago that if it hurt to practice with or the sights were tiny and hard to see, I was not going to use it for any regular defense.....maybe she could off body carry?

Plan9 · 07-19-2010, 07:15 AM

If a firearm is so huge and daunting, perhaps some type of OC spray would be a better choice. They're very compact and don't come with nearly as much liability.

I'll go ahead and be Walt's dickhead: If you can't carry a firearm of useful size, you probably shouldn't carry one at all. The Seecamp is an example of that.

ChrisJericho · 07-19-2010, 11:43 PM

I guess I will disagree with a lot of people on this thread, but my opinion doesn't mean much because I've never been over to the desert and I don't own any multicam pajamas

Women are fickle creatures. If I was married and my wife would only carry a small .32 then that's what I would get her. It's better to be armed with a .32 than with nothing because she left her glock26 at home due to the chunkiness or maybe she just doesn't like the way glocks look. Fickle creatures.

Of course this is assuming she can handle the recoil in such a small gun.

Daka · 07-20-2010, 03:54 AM

ChrisJericho....
You have "hit the nail on the head", I bought her a DIAMONDBACK, 380.
We'll go the range a few times and hopefully she will carry it.........otherwise a big pepperspray..and I'm done....

Plan9 · 07-20-2010, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisJericho

I guess I will disagree with a lot of people on this thread, but my opinion doesn't mean much because I've never been over to the desert and I don't own any multicam pajamas

I don't meet any of the above criteria, but I do have a lot of firearms mentioned in this thread. The Keltec P32 isn't a gun; it's a bullet-throwing noise-maker that's useful at 3 feet. It is safe to say unless an aggressive woman trains with it every day for six months that she'll pull it and not be able to engage a target that isn't already on top of her. 21 foot rule applies big time. The S&W Airweight J-frame .38 Spec is an ideal carry gun for many petite women due to weight, size, ease of use (revolver) versus stopping power. Women that aren't as dainty often like the Glock because it's so simple. If the criteria was small size over weight, guns like the flip-barrel Berettas enter.

The Ruger LCP is a popular and provides decent stopping power. Not a bad choice. I don't own one so I'm not going to comment on its guts. The Keltec .380 it is often compared to isn't a bad gun but certainly isn't comfortable to shoot. And manipulating that tiny magazine and slide under stress? Good luck with the training.

A S&W J-frame .22 LR 8-shot with jazzed up ammo (CCI Quikshok) would be a better choice than all of the above if this person is unable or unwilling to use a larger gun.

The_Dunedan · 07-20-2010, 06:48 AM

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You have "hit the nail on the head", I bought her a DIAMONDBACK, 380.

TAKE IT BACK.

NOW.

DO NOT DELAY.

The Diamondback guns have a serious safety flaw which has resulted in a large number of cracked slides, and according to other FFLs and suppliers at least two people have had their weapons fail catastrophically and feed them the slide. Several ranges in FL and GA have banned the Diamondback alltogether because of this, regarding it as a safety hazard to other shooters and a liability to the range itself. We also hear fairly consistent reports of magazine failures (failure to feed, bad lips, failure to disengage) any one of which can easily get you killed in a defensive situation.

The DB was a neat idea, but the guns themselves are rapidly acquiring a reputation in the shooting community as dangerous and poorly-built.

Plan9 · 07-20-2010, 06:55 AM

Yeah, I was wondering how it went from Hot Rod Luxury Seecamp to Back Alley Special Diamondback.

"Fuck, I can't afford a Rohrbaugh... I guess I'm just going to have to go with an Intratec CAT."

07-15-2010, 04:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
Daka Tilted Location: Fort Lauderdale	Seacamp .32 need info Anyone have any insights .... need a simple weapon for my wife... She says the S/W Mod 60 is too heavy and bulky It's either that or whe wants my Sig P238, (she ain't gettin' mine, I'd have to buy another one)

07-15-2010, 01:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Avoid .32. Get her a "real gun." If she can handle a S&W J-frame (in aluminum .38 instead of steel .357) or a Glock 19, its a far better choice. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake." Last edited by Plan9; 07-15-2010 at 01:12 PM..

07-16-2010, 01:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
Walt I'm calmer than you are, dude Location: North Carolina	Have you considered a Ruger LCP in .380? __________________ Calmer than you are...

07-16-2010, 01:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	The Keltec PF9 and the Walther PPS also fit into that size category. I'm curious as to how petite this woman is that she can't pack a hand-filler. Florida or not, women always have purses and most of 'em wear bras. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

07-16-2010, 05:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Yeah, a .38 Spec Derringer bites far more than a useful carry pistol. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

07-15-2010, 06:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
The_Dunedan Junkie	Well-built guns with an excellent reputation. However: Expensive, bulky for their size, hard to find at times. If you -do- get one, make sure it's chambered for .32ACP and not .32NAA. .32NAA is a neat little round, but -very- hard to find. Personally, if a .32 is what you're after, I'd go with the Kel-Tec over the Seecamp unless she's totally sold on it and nothing else will do. The K-T is lighter, thinner, much less expensive, and you can get 10rd mags and pocket clips for them. Has she tried any other weapons she likes? Can she tolerate a more powerful load (9x19, .38SPL, .40S&W, etc?)

07-15-2010, 04:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
Daka Tilted Location: Fort Lauderdale	Thanks guys She won't carry the S/W snubbie, too bulky and heavy...needs to be carried in her purse...here in FL holster on slim women don't work.

07-18-2010, 08:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Location: missouri	I would go with a lighter pistol in about the same size for the above reason- maybe look at the glock 26- flatter than a j-frame, and more rounds, recoil about the same to me, (though I only fired one once) and twice the rounds in a slightly better caliber for stopping people.... those tiny guns HURT to shoot at times, and do not thus get practiced with enough- decided some time ago that if it hurt to practice with or the sights were tiny and hard to see, I was not going to use it for any regular defense.....maybe she could off body carry? __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens

07-19-2010, 07:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	If a firearm is so huge and daunting, perhaps some type of OC spray would be a better choice. They're very compact and don't come with nearly as much liability. I'll go ahead and be Walt's dickhead: If you can't carry a firearm of useful size, you probably shouldn't carry one at all. The Seecamp is an example of that. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

07-19-2010, 11:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
ChrisJericho eat more fruit Location: Seattle	I guess I will disagree with a lot of people on this thread, but my opinion doesn't mean much because I've never been over to the desert and I don't own any multicam pajamas Women are fickle creatures. If I was married and my wife would only carry a small .32 then that's what I would get her. It's better to be armed with a .32 than with nothing because she left her glock26 at home due to the chunkiness or maybe she just doesn't like the way glocks look. Fickle creatures. Of course this is assuming she can handle the recoil in such a small gun. __________________ "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows us that faith proves nothing." - Friedrich Nietzsche

07-20-2010, 03:54 AM	#12 (permalink)
Daka Tilted Location: Fort Lauderdale	ChrisJericho.... You have "hit the nail on the head", I bought her a DIAMONDBACK, 380. We'll go the range a few times and hopefully she will carry it.........otherwise a big pepperspray..and I'm done....

07-20-2010, 06:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Yeah, I was wondering how it went from Hot Rod Luxury Seecamp to Back Alley Special Diamondback. "Fuck, I can't afford a Rohrbaugh... I guess I'm just going to have to go with an Intratec CAT." __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."