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Daka 07-15-2010 04:14 AM

Seacamp .32 need info
 
Anyone have any insights .... need a simple weapon for my wife...
She says the S/W Mod 60 is too heavy and bulky
It's either that or whe wants my Sig P238, (she ain't gettin' mine, I'd have to buy another one)

The_Dunedan 07-15-2010 06:33 AM

Well-built guns with an excellent reputation.

However:

Expensive, bulky for their size, hard to find at times. If you -do- get one, make sure it's chambered for .32ACP and not .32NAA. .32NAA is a neat little round, but -very- hard to find. Personally, if a .32 is what you're after, I'd go with the Kel-Tec over the Seecamp unless she's totally sold on it and nothing else will do. The K-T is lighter, thinner, much less expensive, and you can get 10rd mags and pocket clips for them. Has she tried any other weapons she likes? Can she tolerate a more powerful load (9x19, .38SPL, .40S&W, etc?)

Plan9 07-15-2010 01:01 PM

Avoid .32. Get her a "real gun." If she can handle a S&W J-frame (in aluminum .38 instead of steel .357) or a Glock 19, its a far better choice.

Daka 07-15-2010 04:59 PM

Thanks guys
She won't carry the S/W snubbie, too bulky and heavy...needs to be carried in her purse...here in FL holster on slim women don't work.

Walt 07-16-2010 01:18 PM

Have you considered a Ruger LCP in .380?

Plan9 07-16-2010 01:28 PM

The Keltec PF9 and the Walther PPS also fit into that size category.

I'm curious as to how petite this woman is that she can't pack a hand-filler.

Florida or not, women always have purses and most of 'em wear bras.

Walt 07-16-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Daka (Post 2805963)
Thanks guys
She won't carry the S/W snubbie, too bulky and heavy...needs to be carried in her purse...here in FL holster on slim women don't work.

At the risk of sounding like a dick; has your wife ever fired the smaller pocket pistols (Kel-Tec, Seacamp, LCP, etc)? I ask because the pocket rockets are a champ to carry but the lightweight pistol + semi-powerful rounds can make your weekly practice sessions a little unpleasant. FWIW, I find my LCP's recoil to be MUCH more uncomfortable than that of my G20 with +P ammo.

Plan9 07-16-2010 05:01 PM

Yeah, a .38 Spec Derringer bites far more than a useful carry pistol.

Fire 07-18-2010 08:35 PM

I would go with a lighter pistol in about the same size for the above reason- maybe look at the glock 26- flatter than a j-frame, and more rounds, recoil about the same to me, (though I only fired one once) and twice the rounds in a slightly better caliber for stopping people.... those tiny guns HURT to shoot at times, and do not thus get practiced with enough- decided some time ago that if it hurt to practice with or the sights were tiny and hard to see, I was not going to use it for any regular defense.....maybe she could off body carry?

Plan9 07-19-2010 07:15 AM

If a firearm is so huge and daunting, perhaps some type of OC spray would be a better choice. They're very compact and don't come with nearly as much liability.

I'll go ahead and be Walt's dickhead: If you can't carry a firearm of useful size, you probably shouldn't carry one at all. The Seecamp is an example of that.

ChrisJericho 07-19-2010 11:43 PM

I guess I will disagree with a lot of people on this thread, but my opinion doesn't mean much because I've never been over to the desert and I don't own any multicam pajamas :sad:

Women are fickle creatures. If I was married and my wife would only carry a small .32 then that's what I would get her. It's better to be armed with a .32 than with nothing because she left her glock26 at home due to the chunkiness or maybe she just doesn't like the way glocks look. Fickle creatures.

Of course this is assuming she can handle the recoil in such a small gun.

Daka 07-20-2010 03:54 AM

ChrisJericho....
You have "hit the nail on the head", I bought her a DIAMONDBACK, 380.
We'll go the range a few times and hopefully she will carry it.........otherwise a big pepperspray..and I'm done....

Plan9 07-20-2010 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisJericho (Post 2807105)
I guess I will disagree with a lot of people on this thread, but my opinion doesn't mean much because I've never been over to the desert and I don't own any multicam pajamas

I don't meet any of the above criteria, but I do have a lot of firearms mentioned in this thread. The Keltec P32 isn't a gun; it's a bullet-throwing noise-maker that's useful at 3 feet. It is safe to say unless an aggressive woman trains with it every day for six months that she'll pull it and not be able to engage a target that isn't already on top of her. 21 foot rule applies big time. The S&W Airweight J-frame .38 Spec is an ideal carry gun for many petite women due to weight, size, ease of use (revolver) versus stopping power. Women that aren't as dainty often like the Glock because it's so simple. If the criteria was small size over weight, guns like the flip-barrel Berettas enter.

The Ruger LCP is a popular and provides decent stopping power. Not a bad choice. I don't own one so I'm not going to comment on its guts. The Keltec .380 it is often compared to isn't a bad gun but certainly isn't comfortable to shoot. And manipulating that tiny magazine and slide under stress? Good luck with the training.

A S&W J-frame .22 LR 8-shot with jazzed up ammo (CCI Quikshok) would be a better choice than all of the above if this person is unable or unwilling to use a larger gun.

The_Dunedan 07-20-2010 06:48 AM

Quote:

You have "hit the nail on the head", I bought her a DIAMONDBACK, 380.
TAKE IT BACK.

NOW.

DO NOT DELAY.

The Diamondback guns have a serious safety flaw which has resulted in a large number of cracked slides, and according to other FFLs and suppliers at least two people have had their weapons fail catastrophically and feed them the slide. Several ranges in FL and GA have banned the Diamondback alltogether because of this, regarding it as a safety hazard to other shooters and a liability to the range itself. We also hear fairly consistent reports of magazine failures (failure to feed, bad lips, failure to disengage) any one of which can easily get you killed in a defensive situation.

The DB was a neat idea, but the guns themselves are rapidly acquiring a reputation in the shooting community as dangerous and poorly-built.

Plan9 07-20-2010 06:55 AM

Yeah, I was wondering how it went from Hot Rod Luxury Seecamp to Back Alley Special Diamondback.

"Fuck, I can't afford a Rohrbaugh... I guess I'm just going to have to go with an Intratec CAT."


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