antique pistols (mauser/luger) - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

boink · 09-17-2009, 07:25 PM

Hi all...I don't own any guns. aside from Armodelli cap guns

I've always liked Mauser Broomhandle 9mm pistols, with the detachable stock and either artillery long barrels or just custom long barrels. I also like Lugers in a similar setup.

I wonder, in the right hands, are these guns any good for personal defense ? not easily concealed I spose, maybe good for home invasion ? I'm not really worried about personal/home security...just wondering what people think of these weapons in terms of practical use.

also wondered where they fit in terms of the law, would they be considered assault weapons or are they in danger of being banned ? has there been language in these proposed laws that deal with antiques and "collectibles"

thanks

Fire · 09-23-2009, 07:47 PM

Assuming that you are in the USA....... many original lugers and mauser are old enough to classify as a curio and relic weapon, and thus are subject to far less regulation than others- you can even get a C+R license and have them shipped to your door without an FFL.... note however, that while they are useful in skilled hands, there is a reason that no modern military uses either design anymore- simply put they are finicky, jam prone and require a knowledgeable hand to keep well maintained and running- these weapons are also quite old, and as such need to be checked out by a competent gunsmith before you fire them, and of course they tend to command fairly high prices due to their age and scarcity.....they are, as stated above, credible weapons, but are not designed to function well with many of the defensive loadings we now take for granted, and either may jam on hollowpoints, thus limiting your reliable self defense options....also, spare magazines are rare and pricey, and spares are essential for any defensive arm..... so overall, lugers and mausers are available if you shop around and take your time, but generally more of a collector piece than a defensive arm, and pricey as heck in many respects.... by all means I encourage you to become a responsible firearms owner, by taking a few classes, getting familiar with pistols through a friend, or something simmilar, but the luger and mauser are generally something you will want to work toward rather than to start with..... I do recommend the ruger mark II series, it was designed to feel much like a luger and it is a great, economical weapon for a beginner.....

boink · 09-23-2009, 09:32 PM

cool, thanks for the reply.
I'd be up for some safety training. and some assistance in gun maintenance if I did find something old to buy. I'm also familiar with maintaining old machinery, but I'd need some information with guns though. heh, I did notice-looking through gun auction sites these old pistols arn't cheap ! but I like the weird style of them both.
honestly I can't see needing a gun for protection so I doubt I'd carry one but I would be into shooting an antique at a range.

I did have some basic rifle safety training when I was a kid but that was quite a while back. oh and I'm in the U.S. btw.

Fire · 09-24-2009, 07:53 AM

well, you are on the right track- and mind you , for a practice and plinkin piece, if you grab yerself a ruger mark II you have a good practice platform that will indoctronate you to gun ownership and transfer well to a luger- I hit this point again as it is generally accepted doctrine taht if you are gonna own a gun, you should shoot it, and nothing is better to train on than a .22- and the mark 2 was inspired by the luger after all.... and it is not expensive, nor is its ammo or magazines- a very important point as while starting ut you will want to shoot a lot to build proficiency- while you practice shooting with that, you can read up on lugers and / or mausers- antique arms is a fascinating subject, and thanks to teh interwebs, we have a plethora of available info on care, handling , repair and the various quirks of these weapons..... try a google search on them, and that can start you on the right track- also, be patient- a buddy of mine picked up a 1917 dated luger in very good condition for 400 bucks- really the exception and not the rule, but still possible if you bide your time and shop around.....

09-17-2009, 07:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
boink Addict Location: Seattle	antique pistols (mauser/luger) Hi all...I don't own any guns. aside from Armodelli cap guns I've always liked Mauser Broomhandle 9mm pistols, with the detachable stock and either artillery long barrels or just custom long barrels. I also like Lugers in a similar setup. I wonder, in the right hands, are these guns any good for personal defense ? not easily concealed I spose, maybe good for home invasion ? I'm not really worried about personal/home security...just wondering what people think of these weapons in terms of practical use. also wondered where they fit in terms of the law, would they be considered assault weapons or are they in danger of being banned ? has there been language in these proposed laws that deal with antiques and "collectibles" thanks __________________ when you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer. Superstition ain't the way.

09-23-2009, 07:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Location: missouri	Assuming that you are in the USA....... many original lugers and mauser are old enough to classify as a curio and relic weapon, and thus are subject to far less regulation than others- you can even get a C+R license and have them shipped to your door without an FFL.... note however, that while they are useful in skilled hands, there is a reason that no modern military uses either design anymore- simply put they are finicky, jam prone and require a knowledgeable hand to keep well maintained and running- these weapons are also quite old, and as such need to be checked out by a competent gunsmith before you fire them, and of course they tend to command fairly high prices due to their age and scarcity.....they are, as stated above, credible weapons, but are not designed to function well with many of the defensive loadings we now take for granted, and either may jam on hollowpoints, thus limiting your reliable self defense options....also, spare magazines are rare and pricey, and spares are essential for any defensive arm..... so overall, lugers and mausers are available if you shop around and take your time, but generally more of a collector piece than a defensive arm, and pricey as heck in many respects.... by all means I encourage you to become a responsible firearms owner, by taking a few classes, getting familiar with pistols through a friend, or something simmilar, but the luger and mauser are generally something you will want to work toward rather than to start with..... I do recommend the ruger mark II series, it was designed to feel much like a luger and it is a great, economical weapon for a beginner..... __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens

09-23-2009, 09:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
boink Addict Location: Seattle	cool, thanks for the reply. I'd be up for some safety training. and some assistance in gun maintenance if I did find something old to buy. I'm also familiar with maintaining old machinery, but I'd need some information with guns though. heh, I did notice-looking through gun auction sites these old pistols arn't cheap ! but I like the weird style of them both. honestly I can't see needing a gun for protection so I doubt I'd carry one but I would be into shooting an antique at a range. I did have some basic rifle safety training when I was a kid but that was quite a while back. oh and I'm in the U.S. btw. __________________ when you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer. Superstition ain't the way.

09-24-2009, 07:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Location: missouri	well, you are on the right track- and mind you , for a practice and plinkin piece, if you grab yerself a ruger mark II you have a good practice platform that will indoctronate you to gun ownership and transfer well to a luger- I hit this point again as it is generally accepted doctrine taht if you are gonna own a gun, you should shoot it, and nothing is better to train on than a .22- and the mark 2 was inspired by the luger after all.... and it is not expensive, nor is its ammo or magazines- a very important point as while starting ut you will want to shoot a lot to build proficiency- while you practice shooting with that, you can read up on lugers and / or mausers- antique arms is a fascinating subject, and thanks to teh interwebs, we have a plethora of available info on care, handling , repair and the various quirks of these weapons..... try a google search on them, and that can start you on the right track- also, be patient- a buddy of mine picked up a 1917 dated luger in very good condition for 400 bucks- really the exception and not the rule, but still possible if you bide your time and shop around..... __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens Last edited by Fire; 09-24-2009 at 07:59 AM..