Any thoughts as to why my torrents stopped working? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

MooseMan3000 · 09-26-2005, 04:02 PM

And no, it's not a firewall

So here's the situation. I'm downloading a bunch of stuff from a bunch of different trackers. While I'm doing that, I'm also installing a new program. To finish the install I have to reboot, so I exit Azureus and restart the machine. When I come back, I find that all of the torrents from one site (and only from that one site) have stopped working.

Naturally, the first thing I do is see if the tracker's online... and it is. However, about a third of the torrents say "Scrape error," a third say "OK (dht: )", and the last third say "Scrape OK." Except here's the catch: none of them say there are any seeds or peers, yet I check the tracker, and they all have lots of seeds and peers. And this includes both completed torrents and half finished ones.

Just to be sure, I completely turned off all my firewall and virus stuff to test, to no avail. I tried changing the port, which didn't help. I tried stopping the torrent and starting it again, as well as deleting the .torrent file, stopping it, downloading the .torrent again and starting the transfer again. It checks to see if the file is there, says it's X% done, then it won't download. It says no peers. I tried this with both HTML and UDP versions of the torrent.

Also, when I download NEW torrents from that site (which I haven't started), they work fine.

It seems to me like my torrents got corrupted somehow, but I can't figure out if there's a way to fix it. Any ideas?

Latch · 09-27-2005, 01:01 AM

How long have you left them open?

Some trackers, like The Pirate Bay, take a long time to connect and report back information.

That's the only thing I can think of...

ratbastid · 09-27-2005, 04:59 AM

Go into the torrent details page and poke the button that's about cycling the tracker connection. Scrape can fail sometimes because of random network issues (and if it fails for one torrent on a given tracker, it's likely to fail for all of them), and then connect fine thirty seconds later.

Or leave them alone and let them try again on their own, which they'll do after a period of time. That's the whole trick with bittorrent anyway--a watched torrent never seeds.

Redlemon · 09-27-2005, 05:26 AM

Are they stuck at about 97-98%? There's a bunch of intentionally bad trackers out there attempting to corrupt the bittorrent system. Check out Slashdot | Poisoned Torrents Plague Mybittorrent for more information.

Latch · 09-27-2005, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon

Are they stuck at about 97-98%? There's a bunch of intentionally bad trackers out there attempting to corrupt the bittorrent system. Check out Slashdot | Poisoned Torrents Plague Mybittorrent for more information.

I've encountered a few torrents with this problem already, all for the new episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm (which I can't get over here)..

ok2share.com seemed to be the tracker at the bottom of it all, and I'd get to about 60 percent on the torrents and then it'd stop. Looking at the pieces downloaded, it was a clear pattern of "chunk of data" *nothing* "chunk of data" *nothing* "chunk of data" and so on through the whole torrent. All the chunks of data (and all the spaces in between) were the same sizes, which you never usually see in bittorrent... it's never uniform across the whole thing like that.

Ah well.. ball's in the consumer's court. I imagine some of the big trackers will figure out a way to stop their torrent sites from being infected and life will go on...

(blacklist of known dirty trackers is a good start...)

MooseMan3000 · 09-27-2005, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon

Are they stuck at about 97-98%? There's a bunch of intentionally bad trackers out there attempting to corrupt the bittorrent system. Check out Slashdot | Poisoned Torrents Plague Mybittorrent for more information.

No, they all stopped when I restarted my machine. And I've used this site before, and I had lots of finished torrents (from the same tracker) already. It has something to do with my end of the deal, I'm just trying to figure out what it is.

MooseMan3000 · 09-27-2005, 01:49 PM

Alright, update:

I stopped all the non-working torrents. After I did that, I exited Azureus and moved them to another folder. I then downloaded the torrents fresh, pointed them to the new directories, and it seems to be working (meaning I can see seeds, unlike before).

Slyboots · 09-27-2005, 02:39 PM

I had the same problems when I wanted to download FF advents children. Recently I had the same problem with the family guy movie. Its all over the interent now!

09-26-2005, 04:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
MooseMan3000 wouldn't mind being a ninja. Location: Maine, the Other White State.	Any thoughts as to why my torrents stopped working? And no, it's not a firewall So here's the situation. I'm downloading a bunch of stuff from a bunch of different trackers. While I'm doing that, I'm also installing a new program. To finish the install I have to reboot, so I exit Azureus and restart the machine. When I come back, I find that all of the torrents from one site (and only from that one site) have stopped working. Naturally, the first thing I do is see if the tracker's online... and it is. However, about a third of the torrents say "Scrape error," a third say "OK (dht: )", and the last third say "Scrape OK." Except here's the catch: none of them say there are any seeds or peers, yet I check the tracker, and they all have lots of seeds and peers. And this includes both completed torrents and half finished ones. Just to be sure, I completely turned off all my firewall and virus stuff to test, to no avail. I tried changing the port, which didn't help. I tried stopping the torrent and starting it again, as well as deleting the .torrent file, stopping it, downloading the .torrent again and starting the transfer again. It checks to see if the file is there, says it's X% done, then it won't download. It says no peers. I tried this with both HTML and UDP versions of the torrent. Also, when I download NEW torrents from that site (which I haven't started), they work fine. It seems to me like my torrents got corrupted somehow, but I can't figure out if there's a way to fix it. Any ideas?

09-27-2005, 05:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	Are they stuck at about 97-98%? There's a bunch of intentionally bad trackers out there attempting to corrupt the bittorrent system. Check out Slashdot \| Poisoned Torrents Plague Mybittorrent for more information. __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

09-27-2005, 02:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
Slyboots Tilted Location: Newbury Park, California	I had the same problems when I wanted to download FF advents children. Recently I had the same problem with the family guy movie. Its all over the interent now! __________________ "Ah, yes, divorce......., from the Latin word meaning to rip out a man's genitals through his wallet." -- Robin Williams

09-27-2005, 01:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
Latch In Your Dreams Location: City of Lights	How long have you left them open? Some trackers, like The Pirate Bay, take a long time to connect and report back information. That's the only thing I can think of...

09-27-2005, 04:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	Go into the torrent details page and poke the button that's about cycling the tracker connection. Scrape can fail sometimes because of random network issues (and if it fails for one torrent on a given tracker, it's likely to fail for all of them), and then connect fine thirty seconds later. Or leave them alone and let them try again on their own, which they'll do after a period of time. That's the whole trick with bittorrent anyway--a watched torrent never seeds.

09-27-2005, 01:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
MooseMan3000 wouldn't mind being a ninja. Location: Maine, the Other White State.	Alright, update: I stopped all the non-working torrents. After I did that, I exited Azureus and moved them to another folder. I then downloaded the torrents fresh, pointed them to the new directories, and it seems to be working (meaning I can see seeds, unlike before).