Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community  

Go Back   Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community > Interests > Tilted Technology


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-25-2004, 01:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
Upright
 
Location: Earth
SP2

Available now at windows update
Jazzbone is offline  
Old 08-25-2004, 01:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
Professional Loafer
 
bendsley's Avatar
 
Location: texas
and? I wouldn't trust anything microsoft releases this early, as big as this package is.
__________________
"You hear the one about the fella who died, went to the pearly gates? St. Peter let him in. Sees a guy in a suit making a closing argument. Says, "Who's that?" St. Peter says, "Oh, that's God. Thinks he's Denny Crane."
bendsley is offline  
Old 08-25-2004, 01:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
undead
 
Location: nihilistic freedom
Quote:
Originally Posted by bendsley
and? I wouldn't trust anything microsoft releases this early, as big as this package is.
Actually, I've been running SP2 for quite awhile now... Since it was released to manufacturing. Not a single hiccup or problem. I did have to tell the firewall to allow some of my games and stuff to work, but thats really the only inconvience it's been.
nothingx is offline  
Old 08-25-2004, 03:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
Tilted
 
Location: Canada
No problem here I think my computer is faster. I have Sygate for my Firewall so I just turned sp2 firewall off.
bannet is offline  
Old 08-25-2004, 04:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
Upright
 
Location: Earth
Quote:
Originally Posted by bendsley
and? I wouldn't trust anything microsoft releases this early, as big as this package is.
And! Take it any way you want... It's been beta tested to death by friends of mine that I trust and it is to me an improvement to my OS...
It also does a nice job with IE's popup protection...
Jazzbone is offline  
Old 08-25-2004, 10:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
I am Winter Born
 
Pragma's Avatar
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
Quote:
Originally Posted by bendsley
and? I wouldn't trust anything microsoft releases this early, as big as this package is.
I'm a little rough on the dates, but I believe it was released to the beta testers on the 6th as finished, and then it went on Technet on the 12th. What you're getting from WindowsUpdate now is exactly what I downloaded from Technet on the 12th.
Pragma is offline  
Old 08-26-2004, 10:30 AM   #7 (permalink)
hip mama
 
flamingpeach's Avatar
 
Location: redmond, washington
I went ahead and installed it last night. No problems so far!

The new icons are nice.
__________________
I've eaten my veggies all my life so bring it on, I am educated and strong for the revolution.
flamingpeach is offline  
Old 08-26-2004, 11:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
sixate's Avatar
 
Location: Somewhere in Ohio
I installed it last night also, only to have my system freeze 4 times while trying to boot up. Then after it took 20 minutes to boot, it was fine.

Didn't notice new icons because I use IconPackager anyway.
sixate is offline  
Old 08-28-2004, 12:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
Fear the bunny
 
Location: Hanging off the tip of the Right Wing
/takes a chance and downloads it.....
__________________
Activism is a way for useless people to feel important.
BoCo is offline  
Old 08-28-2004, 01:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
Death Leprechaun
 
Confederate's Avatar
 
Location: College Station, TX
I installed it and didnt like it, it was blocking stuff that I wanted to download, stuff like plugins, and codecs. Plus my internet ran like hell with the firewall on. But I also had a hardware firewall i.e. a router so maybe the dual walls made it run slower. but then again I never had a problem with spyware and viruses before the service pack so I'm going to avoid it untill it comes out with an update or easier to use features.
Confederate is offline  
Old 08-28-2004, 06:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
I am Winter Born
 
Pragma's Avatar
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
You can disable the firewall, as well as a lot of the extra checks that IE does. It's not hard to do, just go to either the IE Control Panel or the Security Center.

It's an update you want to have, for security reasons, if nothing else. There are, however, a lot of "under the hood" updates to XP that your average user will never know about that make it very worth installing SP2.
Pragma is offline  
Old 08-29-2004, 07:47 AM   #12 (permalink)
Psycho
 
jcookc6's Avatar
 
Location: Venice, Florida
No problems here, though I only use IE when Firefox fails.
jcookc6 is offline  
Old 08-30-2004, 04:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
Mine is an evil laugh
 
spindles's Avatar
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
I've also installed it and had no problems. It is a bit annoying that I have A firewall running, just not their one, and it still annoys me with the "you are not protected" crap
__________________
who hid my keyboard's PANIC button?
spindles is offline  
Old 08-30-2004, 07:43 PM   #14 (permalink)
Banned
 
Location: Swooping down on you from above....
I killed my SP2 install. It blocked some of my company's intranet sites that I need to access at home. So I'm going to give it a few months to wait and see until the bugs are worked out.
Flyguy is offline  
Old 08-30-2004, 08:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
It's all downhill from here
 
docbungle's Avatar
 
Location: Denver
It won't let me f*ing keep "realtime protection" enabled with Norton Antivirus. It keeps shutting it off. POS.
__________________
Bad Luck City
docbungle is offline  
Old 08-30-2004, 08:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
Addict
 
Location: Oh God, the rain!
I hate SP2. I cant freaking uninstall it
Asuka{eve} is offline  
Old 08-30-2004, 09:07 PM   #17 (permalink)
I am Winter Born
 
Pragma's Avatar
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
If you want to disable SP2's firewall, do so from within the Security Center, then change the way you're notified to not notify you.

I told the Security Center that I have another firewall that it can't detect (my gateway), and then told it to quit bugging me, and haven't looked at it since.
Pragma is offline  
Old 08-30-2004, 11:00 PM   #18 (permalink)
At The Globe Showing Will How Its Done
 
MahlerIsGod's Avatar
 
Location: London/Elysium
Has anyone else Net speeds just gone to hell since installing SP2? No, the new firewall isn't enabled but my net speeds seem to be taking "dramatic pauses." (I will click on a link or url and it takes my computer a few beats before everything kicks in and I think runs a tad bit slower). Has anyone else experienced this? Just wondering. Thanks
MahlerIsGod is offline  
Old 08-30-2004, 11:45 PM   #19 (permalink)
Insane
 
Hanabal's Avatar
 
Location: Auckland
do you have a lot of other things downloading,

sp2 limits the number of outbound tcp connections, used to be unlimited. this can slow you down if you are downloading around 50 things, ie p2p.

theres a hack somewhere out there.
__________________
I am Hanabal, Phear my elephants
Hanabal is offline  
Old 08-31-2004, 11:06 AM   #20 (permalink)
big damn hero
 
guthmund's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MahlerIsGod
Has anyone else Net speeds just gone to hell since installing SP2? No, the new firewall isn't enabled but my net speeds seem to be taking "dramatic pauses." (I will click on a link or url and it takes my computer a few beats before everything kicks in and I think runs a tad bit slower). Has anyone else experienced this? Just wondering. Thanks

Yeah...I installed it a few nights ago and noticed there is a "hitch."

It's not slower, but there is a discernable pause before it starts getting where it's going.

Everything else seems to be running just as well, if not better though.

Can anybody explain to me in English what "Data Execution Prevention" (right-click my computer | properties | Advanced | Data Exectuion Prevention)

I know what the papers say and what I've managed to find online, but nobody seems to know if there are any performance issues attached to it.
__________________
No signature. None. Seriously.
guthmund is offline  
Old 08-31-2004, 12:41 PM   #21 (permalink)
Addict
 
Silverbrain's Avatar
 
Location: Nor Cal
What does data execution prevention do?
Data execution prevention (DEP) is a set of hardware and software technologies that perform additional checks on memory to help protect against malicious code exploits. In Windows XP SP2, DEP is enforced by both hardware and software.


taken from

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2mempr.mspx
__________________
Over Thinking, Over Analyzing
Seperates the Body from the Mind - MJK
Silverbrain is offline  
Old 09-01-2004, 01:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
big damn hero
 
guthmund's Avatar
 
See that's what I read...along with about a dozen other pages that all seem to say the exact same thing.

I just looked at the settings again and I must have mis-read the second option. You can't turn it completely off at all! All you can do is scale it back to cover essential windows services and make exception lists for those programs you do have problems with.

I was really asking about performance, something which none of the articles seems to address. I've read there are issues with Divx and some 3d games, but haven't seen anything as to the casual user. I was just wondering if anyone had.

Edit: Hanabal mentioned that outbound TCP connections are now limited to 10 and was looking for a workaround....

For what it's worth...

I found this here and this one as well.

and a link to the program here.
__________________
No signature. None. Seriously.

Last edited by guthmund; 09-01-2004 at 02:00 PM..
guthmund is offline  
Old 09-01-2004, 04:19 PM   #23 (permalink)
Junkie
 
MontanaXVI's Avatar
 
Location: Go A's!!!!
I have to turn off the GD firewall every time I reboot. I told it I have a firewall of my own and do not monitor, then have it not warn me of firewall issues, but everytime I reboot it is back to default bitching becuase I do not have their firewall enabled.
__________________
Spank you very much
MontanaXVI is offline  
Old 09-01-2004, 09:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
big damn hero
 
guthmund's Avatar
 
Noticed that as well.

It's stopped warning me that the firewall is off, but now it's turning it on by itself.

It's happened twice already, but further testing will ensue....
__________________
No signature. None. Seriously.
guthmund is offline  
Old 09-02-2004, 02:46 AM   #25 (permalink)
At The Globe Showing Will How Its Done
 
MahlerIsGod's Avatar
 
Location: London/Elysium
I finally had enough. After constantly haggling with the WIndows Firewalla and a crawling internet speed, I removed the Service Pack. I will miss the Pop Up Blocker, which I thought did a very good job, but I am much, much happier without it.
MahlerIsGod is offline  
Old 09-02-2004, 05:18 AM   #26 (permalink)
I am Winter Born
 
Pragma's Avatar
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
Out of curiosity, to those of you who uninstalled SP2 - what are you going to do a few months down the road when MSFT pretty much requires you to have SP2 to continue to get Windows Updates?
Pragma is offline  
Old 09-02-2004, 08:39 AM   #27 (permalink)
Addict
 
Methinks that by the time MS makes it SP@ a requirement, they'll have most of the kinks worked out. With something this significant, I don't have the balls or skills to download it right out of the gate. I'm spending my time watching the other brave souls and trying to learn from their experiences.

To. those of you who have downloaded it, thanks for taking that first step. Your initiative is of great value to the rest of us.
__________________
I blow my nose at you. Now go away before I taunt you a second time.
blkdmnd is offline  
Old 09-04-2004, 02:47 PM   #28 (permalink)
big damn hero
 
guthmund's Avatar
 
I finally got the firewall to stop initiating on it's own. I just set it to off and changed the monitoring selection.

For what it's worth, I haven't had any substantial problems with SP2. It seems to run just fine. I was considering uninstalling it, but since I've haven't had any considerable problems with I'm not going to. I just don't feel like opening that can of worms.
__________________
No signature. None. Seriously.
guthmund is offline  
Old 09-04-2004, 05:36 PM   #29 (permalink)
Tilted
 
i have heard that if you play online games, sp2 will cause a loss of fps. Has anyone expirienced this?
raven12 is offline  
Old 09-05-2004, 11:33 AM   #30 (permalink)
I am Winter Born
 
Pragma's Avatar
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
Quote:
Originally Posted by raven12
i have heard that if you play online games, sp2 will cause a loss of fps. Has anyone expirienced this?
I wouldn't believe everything you read. I've had absolutely no problems with online games - especially FPS games (Joint Operations, Doom 3, etc.) since installing SP2. No loss of framerate, no additional latency.
Pragma is offline  
Old 09-07-2004, 04:41 PM   #31 (permalink)
Junkie
 
MontanaXVI's Avatar
 
Location: Go A's!!!!
STILL cannot get the GD firewall to stop worrying about itself.

I have it turned off, and also set to not monitor a firewall I have my own that I will take care of. EVERYTHING to do with the firewall has been turned off or disabled yet the fucking thing still changes itself to warn me about it everytime I reboot and shows me the security center after every reboot whining about no firewall
__________________
Spank you very much
MontanaXVI is offline  
Old 09-08-2004, 09:20 AM   #32 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Location: San Diego
I finally broke down and installed it, has anyone else's computer been insanely slow upon first start up? Does anyone know how to speed it up? I went through and removed anything I didn't use, cleaned out the registry, plus removed stuff in msconfig, but it is still sluggish... I am afraid I might have to reformat.
__________________
If something seems too good to be true, then it probably is....
punx1325 is offline  
Old 09-08-2004, 11:47 AM   #33 (permalink)
Conspiracy Realist
 
Sun Tzu's Avatar
 
Location: The Event Horizon
After installing it IE6 and outlook express shortcuts were gone: both the icons and in the start menu. I had to go program files for ie6. But in oe the application files it has is to reinstall it. The possiblity of duplicating files can cause errors; does anyone know what to do? I checked google and MS site with no direct info. I wish I wouldnt have done this.
__________________
To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit.- Stephen Hawking
Sun Tzu is offline  
Old 09-09-2004, 06:17 AM   #34 (permalink)
Insane
 
Location: Wales, UK, Europe, Earth, Milky Way, Universe
Havent had any problems with SP2 here, just all the same frustrations with windows i've always had.
__________________
There are only two industries that refer to their customers as "users". - Edward Tufte
welshbyte is offline  
Old 09-09-2004, 07:05 AM   #35 (permalink)
Go Cardinals
 
soccerchamp76's Avatar
 
Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati
Installed it yesterday and I have had not a single problem yet. Even without the firewall selected, no problems with that either.
__________________
Brian Griffin: Ah, if my memory serves me, this is the physics department.
Chris Griffin: That would explain all the gravity.
soccerchamp76 is offline  
Old 09-09-2004, 07:52 AM   #36 (permalink)
Custom User Title
 
Craven Morehead's Avatar
 
Have installed it on 2 PCs, one w/ XP Pro the other XP Home. No problems however had to turn off the firewall and my laptop in order to use a VPN connection to my company's network. Not a big thing to me.
Craven Morehead is offline  
Old 09-20-2004, 09:15 PM   #37 (permalink)
Conspiracy Realist
 
Sun Tzu's Avatar
 
Location: The Event Horizon
I had to do a system restore to go back pre SP2. It would appear the majority havent had problems. The F***** issue here is in order to get any sec updates Sp2 has to be installed. Ill try again.
__________________
To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit.- Stephen Hawking
Sun Tzu is offline  
Old 09-20-2004, 09:23 PM   #38 (permalink)
Go Cardinals
 
soccerchamp76's Avatar
 
Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati
Weeks later, still no problems.
__________________
Brian Griffin: Ah, if my memory serves me, this is the physics department.
Chris Griffin: That would explain all the gravity.
soccerchamp76 is offline  
Old 09-21-2004, 01:19 AM   #39 (permalink)
Insane
 
Tandem's Avatar
 
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asuka{eve}
I hate SP2. I cant freaking uninstall it
Then the chances are are that your copy of XP may not (perhaps) be legitimate.
SP2 will not install/uninstall on dodgy XP installations.

Last edited by Tandem; 09-21-2004 at 01:40 AM..
Tandem is offline  
Old 09-21-2004, 01:33 AM   #40 (permalink)
Insane
 
Tandem's Avatar
 
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Quote:
Originally Posted by punx1325
I finally broke down and installed it, has anyone else's computer been insanely slow upon first start up? Does anyone know how to speed it up? I went through and removed anything I didn't use, cleaned out the registry, plus removed stuff in msconfig, but it is still sluggish... I am afraid I might have to reformat.
Try performing a SCAN DISK and DEFRAG on your HDD's and see if there are any performance gains. Also in the "System Properties / Advanced / Performance Options", see if you've selected "Programs" and not "System Cache" in the Memory Usage section.

HTH's
Tandem is offline  
 

Tags
sp2


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:00 AM.

Tilted Forum Project

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
© 2002-2012 Tilted Forum Project

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360