Ipod Newby Questions! - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

theburner · 08-13-2004, 06:07 AM

I just ordered my first Ipod, the new 40GB 4th Gen. I do have a couple of questions though. Hopefully someone out here can help?

1) When I copy music from my PC to my Ipod, does it remove the songs from my HDD?

2) When I copy my music from my Ipod to my PC, does it remove the music from my Ipod?

3) Can I mix formats? Can I store 20GB's of Music in playable mode, and then use the other 20GB's left over to store data? Or does it have to be in HDD mode only?

Thank you in advance!

Redlemon · 08-13-2004, 06:22 AM

1) No.
2) In standard usage, it does not copy from the iPod to the HDD. You need 3rd party software to do that. Think of the iPod as a copy of your HDD music library.
3) Yes, and you don't have to partition it, just use the space as you see fit (noting, of course, that you have a little bit less than 40 GB).

theburner · 08-13-2004, 06:54 AM

redlemon:

Thanks!!! I am going to visit a buddy in a week or so, and want to "spread the wealth" of music. Looks like it is possible.

Redlemon · 08-13-2004, 07:01 AM

Oh, and be cautious of plugging into more than one computer. You run the risk of erasing everything on the iPod and having it replaced with everything on the second computer.

If you run your iPod in extended HD mode for a while, it can overheat and the screen may go all black. It will turn back to normal in a couple of hours.

For copying software (and a huge amount of other information), check out ipodlounge.com .

theburner · 08-13-2004, 07:05 AM

Yeah, I think I read that you can't sync on the 2nd computer or you will lose everything.
Maybe I should just fill up 4 DVD's worth of music and bring that instead. May be easier.

bob32 · 08-14-2004, 10:59 AM

Well you can sync up a second computer, you just have to make sure it doesn't automatically update the songs on the ipod. However, one screw up and you lose everything. IMHO it's not worth it. I've never tried a third-party replacement for itunes (like ephpod), those may be easier to set up so you don't lose everything.

Key · 08-18-2004, 10:49 PM

the problem here seems to be you're confusing terms. there's a feature in some programs called "syncing" which basically makes your ipod look exactly like a folder on your desktop, mirror imaging it. the idea is you stick any new music in there and don't have to worry about transfering stuff- the ipod automatically SYNCS itself with the folder.

it's good for PDAs and such, but i don't like that for my ipod and certainly don't use it.

if you TRANSER songs back and forth, you're fine. the ipod works INDEPENDENTLY from the computer, doesn't matter how many you hook into, it'll be fine. but if you transfer everything to your ipod, and you SYNC with any computer, suddenly your ipod becomes a copy of THAT computer, resulting in a loss of your original "mirror".

i have several roomates/friends with ipods, and i CONNECT with their computer and transfer music back and forth fine. i do not SYNC with their machines, though.

some software programs in an attempt to cater to the newbies, try and make it as mind blowingly simple to use as possible and so they automatically turn on the sync option or make it the default way, etc to transfer music.

theburner · 08-19-2004, 09:49 AM

Already did the trick. I used a program by JRiver that allows you to transfer back and forth with the Ipod. Worked like a charm. Thanks for the all advice!

sadistikdreams · 08-19-2004, 12:55 PM

Key, thanks for clearing that up. I always get syncing and transfering mixed up.

k1ng · 08-19-2004, 03:31 PM

Here's something I posted in the Tilted Computers forum:

Quote:

I bought a new 4g ipod (20 gigger) recently and have been very pleased with my purchase. My only real complaint is iTunes. I didn't like having to use it and have been looking for a good alternative for it, and I think I found it!

ml_ipod - It's a Winamp plug-in that has full playlist support, allows you to copy songs to/from your ipod, and many more features.

I haven't played with it for very long, but from what I've seen so far, this will be my replacement for iTunes.

I hope this will help free some of you who are not happy with iTunes.

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=65927

08-13-2004, 06:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
theburner Canadian Beer Ambassador Location: Cumming, GA	Ipod Newby Questions! I just ordered my first Ipod, the new 40GB 4th Gen. I do have a couple of questions though. Hopefully someone out here can help? 1) When I copy music from my PC to my Ipod, does it remove the songs from my HDD? 2) When I copy my music from my Ipod to my PC, does it remove the music from my Ipod? 3) Can I mix formats? Can I store 20GB's of Music in playable mode, and then use the other 20GB's left over to store data? Or does it have to be in HDD mode only? Thank you in advance! __________________ Take Off Eh!

08-13-2004, 06:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	1) No. 2) In standard usage, it does not copy from the iPod to the HDD. You need 3rd party software to do that. Think of the iPod as a copy of your HDD music library. 3) Yes, and you don't have to partition it, just use the space as you see fit (noting, of course, that you have a little bit less than 40 GB). __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

08-13-2004, 06:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
theburner Canadian Beer Ambassador Location: Cumming, GA	redlemon: Thanks!!! I am going to visit a buddy in a week or so, and want to "spread the wealth" of music. Looks like it is possible. __________________ Take Off Eh!

08-13-2004, 07:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	Oh, and be cautious of plugging into more than one computer. You run the risk of erasing everything on the iPod and having it replaced with everything on the second computer. If you run your iPod in extended HD mode for a while, it can overheat and the screen may go all black. It will turn back to normal in a couple of hours. For copying software (and a huge amount of other information), check out ipodlounge.com . __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

08-13-2004, 07:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
theburner Canadian Beer Ambassador Location: Cumming, GA	Yeah, I think I read that you can't sync on the 2nd computer or you will lose everything. Maybe I should just fill up 4 DVD's worth of music and bring that instead. May be easier. __________________ Take Off Eh!

08-14-2004, 10:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
bob32 Crazy	Well you can sync up a second computer, you just have to make sure it doesn't automatically update the songs on the ipod. However, one screw up and you lose everything. IMHO it's not worth it. I've never tried a third-party replacement for itunes (like ephpod), those may be easier to set up so you don't lose everything.

08-18-2004, 10:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Key Crazy	the problem here seems to be you're confusing terms. there's a feature in some programs called "syncing" which basically makes your ipod look exactly like a folder on your desktop, mirror imaging it. the idea is you stick any new music in there and don't have to worry about transfering stuff- the ipod automatically SYNCS itself with the folder. it's good for PDAs and such, but i don't like that for my ipod and certainly don't use it. if you TRANSER songs back and forth, you're fine. the ipod works INDEPENDENTLY from the computer, doesn't matter how many you hook into, it'll be fine. but if you transfer everything to your ipod, and you SYNC with any computer, suddenly your ipod becomes a copy of THAT computer, resulting in a loss of your original "mirror". i have several roomates/friends with ipods, and i CONNECT with their computer and transfer music back and forth fine. i do not SYNC with their machines, though. some software programs in an attempt to cater to the newbies, try and make it as mind blowingly simple to use as possible and so they automatically turn on the sync option or make it the default way, etc to transfer music.

08-19-2004, 09:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
theburner Canadian Beer Ambassador Location: Cumming, GA	Already did the trick. I used a program by JRiver that allows you to transfer back and forth with the Ipod. Worked like a charm. Thanks for the all advice! __________________ Take Off Eh!

08-19-2004, 12:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
sadistikdreams lonely rolling star Location: Seattle.	Key, thanks for clearing that up. I always get syncing and transfering mixed up. __________________ "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." -Lin Yutang hearts, by d.a.