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Old 04-01-2004, 04:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Mouse Question

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I think the extended sessions of UT 2004 have finally done my mouse in. 'Tis time for a new one. Has anyone tried the new Logitech MX 510 or the new Microsoft InteliiMouse. I am completely and utterly satisified with my old Microsoft 3.0 but I was just wondering what and if any one of you had used those mice. Thanks for any info, suggestions, etc.
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Old 04-01-2004, 04:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I carry few others with my opinion, but I have to suggest staying away from optical mice for gaming. After using optical mice for gaming and then going back to ball mice, the precision control you have with a ball is unrivalled with an optical mouse. Don't get me wrong, I know that everyone loves optical mice, especially for browsing Windows, but when it comes to gaming, a ball mouse can't be beat if ya ask me.

If you are dead-set on getting an optical mouse, I've heard really, really good things about the intelliMouse.

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Old 04-01-2004, 06:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hmm.. personally, I'd never go back to a ball mouse. The MX series mice are really freakin' amazing.. the precision and accuracy is great.

I have an MX700, and it's the best mouse I've ever used.
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Old 04-01-2004, 06:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hmm.. personally, I'd never go back to a ball mouse.
Me neither. Yeah, Lasereth, you are in the minority Ive been using an optical mouse for everything, including gaming, for quite a while, and havent noticed anything but greatness. No lag, no nothing.

Ill never go back to a ball mouse.

I cant really recommend any models. I just have a basic Logitech that serves me very well.
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Old 04-01-2004, 09:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Get the Microsoft InteliiMouse Optical.

It's got 5 buttons, a scroll wheel (a must) and it just fits any size hand (left or right) like a glove. Plus you can usually get them pretty cheap.

The best feature (IMO) is the back and forward buttons, perfect for web browsers.
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Old 04-01-2004, 09:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hmm.. personally, I'd never go back to a ball mouse. The MX series mice are really freakin' amazing.. the precision and accuracy is great.

I have an MX700, and it's the best mouse I've ever used.
I agree. The MX700 is the best mouse on the face of the planet, and it's accurate as hell. I don't even need a mouse pad for it. I use it on my coffee table, the floor, or the cushion on my couch, and it responds perfectly all the time. Just try to find a ball mouse that can do that. Not gonna happen.

I've used other optical mice that weren't accurate at all, but when you pay for the best you get the best. Don't even bother with an $8 optical. Get the MX700.

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Old 04-01-2004, 10:10 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The MX series is the best to go for right now. Either the MX500, 510, or 700 are great mices. If you are looking for something more simple without all the extra shortcut keys, then look for the MX300 or MX310.
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Old 04-01-2004, 01:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Definatley the MX 700. Im getting one after using my friends for 5 minutes. Made my mouse seem clunky and crappy....
As for Ball Mice being more accurate....
Unless you're using a BoomSlang mouse Lasereth, You've got to be crazy, but to each their own.
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Old 04-01-2004, 01:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Unless you're using a BoomSlang mouse Lasereth, You've got to be crazy, but to each their own.
It's mainly first-person shooters that I'm talking about. I'd bitch and moan about how ball mice are better for FPS, but like you said, to each his own. In other types of games, I'm sure an optical mouse would be much better.

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Old 04-01-2004, 01:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I used a wireless optical Intellimouse for about 1 year. It started getting old in FPS (namely BF: Desert Combat and the such) and so I went and bought a 10-buck wired ball mouse. I won 7 matches in a row in Desert Combat that night. It was like I was on a handicap or something. Sorta like Goku training in 10X gravity (for all you DBZ fans). I'm never going back to wireless optical.
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Old 04-01-2004, 01:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Get the MX500, 510, or 700. AWESOME mouse. I have the MX500

And here's a <a href="http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20030110/index.html">Tom's Hardware Review of the MX series</a>
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Old 04-01-2004, 01:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I agree with Lasereth. IMHO digital is evil. I wish they'd stop making so many game controlers digital. The precision is better in analog, and analog sticks don't give you digital jitter like the digital ones do. I'm perfectly happy with my Mouseman Wheel ball mouse. They don't make it any more so I'll be pissed when it dies.
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Old 04-01-2004, 08:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
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It's mainly first-person shooters that I'm talking about. I'd bitch and moan about how ball mice are better for FPS, but like you said, to each his own. In other types of games, I'm sure an optical mouse would be much better.

-Lasereth
I actually play primarily FPS's myself and I've never had any problems with my optical, actually it performed better than any other ball mouse I had. What Ball mouse do you use in particular? Im curious to see how it measures up to my MX700.
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Old 04-01-2004, 09:24 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I have to say that I use an optical mouse. I have greater precision with it than I ever did with a ball mouse. Another good thing is that i dont need to have it on a mouse pad just to make it work decent. The best part is i nver have to worry about cleaning the things. and yes I am a major FPS gamer. I would not however go wireless as in some instances it can get interference, lose battery power, or jsut have a small lag time.
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Old 04-01-2004, 10:48 PM   #15 (permalink)
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mx700, its a little on the heavy side, but it feels more precise. also, there's no cord snag
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Old 04-01-2004, 11:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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not that i totallly recommend it, but i bought a logitech optical trackball with 4 buttons plus a function for clicking both and i thought i'd hate it after the first five minutes, but it's grown on me to the point that i hate using normal mouses, wired, ball, whatever. I just love being able to use one finger for controlling a pointer across two monitors. saves me a lot of wear and tear on the wrist.

I've also gotten accustomed to it in games like quake/quake3 and its' just being second nature to me.

wiht that said, the microsoft intellimouse above is very good. I lieke the front/back buttons as well.

4-5 buttons min, though
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Old 04-02-2004, 12:03 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Get the Microsoft InteliiMouse Optical.

It's got 5 buttons, a scroll wheel (a must) and it just fits any size hand (left or right) like a glove. Plus you can usually get them pretty cheap.

The best feature (IMO) is the back and forward buttons, perfect for web browsers.
I fully agree with that. The best thing in my opinion (the customisable forward/back buttons being a close second) is the decent shape, does not feel awkward in the left hand like so many other models out there that I would try if they were not shaped so hideously.
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Old 04-02-2004, 01:14 AM   #18 (permalink)
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mx700, Its great for taking pictures with your web cam in hard to take areas*cough cough* inless you have an olympus digitial
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Old 04-02-2004, 12:32 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I actually play primarily FPS's myself and I've never had any problems with my optical, actually it performed better than any other ball mouse I had. What Ball mouse do you use in particular? Im curious to see how it measures up to my MX700.
I use a Microsoft regular ball mouse. It has a scroll wheel that rolls very distinctly. Just a left and right button, nothing fancy!

I also NEVER use mousepads. That might be one of the reasons why I like ballmice better...mousepads ruin games for me. I've also found out that not using a mousepad makes the dust accumulation in ballmice to go down to literally NONE. No dust gets in it at all. I haven't cleaned it in a year!

I hate most ballmice, so maybe mine just really kicks ass.

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Old 04-03-2004, 08:24 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I use a Microsoft regular ball mouse. It has a scroll wheel that rolls very distinctly. Just a left and right button, nothing fancy!
I'll have to dig one up. A buddy of mine works at a computer shop so I should be able to find one...
Not that I'll ever go back (Especially after buying an MX700, I intend to use it until it craps out with the money I sunk into it ), but just for sake of curiousity.

Also, I found the same thing with Ball mice. Mouse Pads = teh bad. Havent touched one in 4 years.
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