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Pure Chewing Satisfaction
Location: can i use bbcode [i]here[/i]?
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I've been very happy with Agnitum Outpost firewall. I've gone through the rounds (Zone Alarm, Norton, a couple others) and Outpost is the only one that gave me level of control I liked. Check it out, there's a free version of it.
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Location: Rugby UK
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If you want to be secure get yourself a little 4 port router from netgear or dlink for about £40
http://www.netgear.com/products/prod...odID=131&view= read the manual and set aside 4-5 hrs for install and setup and you will never regret it. there is no real substitute.
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I am Winter Born
Location: Alexandria, VA
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NAT really isn't a firewall - it doesn't help the fact that you've got the machine unprotected - it just hides it behind another IP. The best firewalls are stateful and have some kind of mechanism to check packets for known-bad signatures (ie: Code Red packets).
Windows XP Service Pack 2's firewall is much improved over the original Internet Connection Firewall, but (for obvious reasons) most people wouldn't want to upgrade to a beta service pack of their OS.
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Unbelievable
Location: Grants Pass OR
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I run Xp home and used to run Sygate, however it made my system take forever to startup. I switched to Zone Alarm (and made no other changes) and my computer started up much much faster again. Sygate worked well for me, as does Zone Alarm both are free, the startup time was the only reason I switched.
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Huzzah for Welcome Week, Much beer shall I imbibe.
Location: UCSB
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ZoneAlarm is your friend. ZoneAlarm Pro is like a friend, but more like a lover you can't ever see yourself leaving.
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If you have a spare machine knocking about (who doesnt
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Registered User
Location: Somewhere in Ohio
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Zone Alarm is good, and free.
Zone Alarm Pro is great! But it isn't free. Although, it was for me. ![]() I never see stupid pop-ups, and I never get anything installed on my PC that shouldn't be there. I couldn't imagine not having ZAPro on my PC. |
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will always be an Alyson Hanniganite
Location: In the dust of the archives
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I use Sygate. It works well, and it's free.
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I am Winter Born
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Darth Papa
Location: Yonder
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The reason you'd want to do it with a little router rather than a whole machine running a firewall is because there's nothing to hack in a little router. If I can crack a firewall box, I'm in the internal network. I can't crack a little home router because there's not really any OS there to crack. I mean, there's an embedded OS there, but I couldn't pull a shell on it. What answers on the IP that my cable service assigns is a router that doesn't respond on any port (except for a couple I've explicitly forwarded). None of my internal machines have firewalls of any kind, and I've never been touched by Code Red, Messenger pop-ups, or anything else like that. |
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The OpenBSD FAQ and man pages are great. A typical install takes about 30minutes to set up and have a firewall running. |
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Talk nerdy to me
Location: Flint, MI
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ratbastid speaks the truth.
I figure that pretty much covers it. ![]() Hardware firewalls are much more secure that software ones and are resonbly inexpensive. They are easy to setup and are worth it. I had my new wireless router set up and was surfing the net from upstairs ina matter of hours, and I went with the advanced configuration.
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EVIL!
Location: Southwest of nowhere
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ZoneAlarm cause it's FREE. Have it on both my machines and it is easy to work with. I bought McAfee to install on my home machine but it was a pain to install and kept causing lockup problems. Never could get it to work right so pulled it and put ZoneAlarm on. No problems since.
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Knight of the Old Republic
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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Tilted Cat Head
Administrator
Location: Manhattan, NY
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Quadrature Amplitude Modulator
Location: Denver
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For this reason and others, NAT has nothing to do with security. A firewall, on the other hand, does. It just so happens that every consumer "router" device has firewall functionality. ![]() I know most of you are probably going to dismiss my points, but I thought it deserved mentioning anyway.
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Junkie
Location: Connecticut
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Gotta agree about getting a router. Cheap, small, upgradable firmware... It protects well from the outside, but ZoneAlarm (or something like it) protects well from some rouge program (virus, trojan, auto-updates, etc.) within the computer sending something out without your permission
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Darth Papa
Location: Yonder
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I am Winter Born
Location: Alexandria, VA
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I've seen a fair number of routers with security flaws, and if you can compromise the router, you can then get into the machines inside. Of course, the best firewall is to - instead of a cable going to your router - put a loopback plug in your NIC. Ah, security. You won't have any of those damned hackers getting at you now, oh no you won't. The internet will be a bit limited, though.
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Insane
Location: Austria
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i use kerio personal firewall .. excellent piece of software , more stable than sygate
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Quadrature Amplitude Modulator
Location: Denver
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ratbastid: Just like you said, it's not really all that important as a home firewall. So why worry too much, eh?
![]() I only wanted to enlighten the ignorant. Pragma: The best firewall is to disconnect all the cables from your computer. Kinda defeats the purpose, though. ![]()
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I am Winter Born
Location: Alexandria, VA
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!?!No hay pantalones!?!
Location: Indian-no-place
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For anyone who is interested in checking your network for security.. This is a slow port scan that will check your firewall/connection for any vulnerabilities.
http://www.dslreports.com/secureme_go You'll need to register, but it's worth the few seconds it takes. -SF |
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