Trying the FTP thing again...need Port help - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

DEI37 · 12-11-2003, 06:10 PM

If you're not using the standard port (#80) to run an FTP server, what ports work? I've tried 57890, 65534, 55555, 65423, 8080, and a couple others. My ISP blocks port 80, so I'm S.O.L. there. Need your help, guys!

DEI37 · 12-11-2003, 06:25 PM

And, if someone is capable and willing...why don't you do a port scan on me to see what is open and available.

68.191.160.17

Latch · 12-11-2003, 06:52 PM

Port 80 is your HTTP port.

The standard FTP port is 21, try that one.

Otherwise, if you tell the FTP server to use one of those other ports (57890, 65534, 55555, 65423, 8080), you should be able to ftp to 68.191.160.17 port whatever.

Dilbert1234567 · 12-11-2003, 07:06 PM

dont use 21, dont bother if they are blocking the ftp they will block you. i host my own website but i cant host an ftp, the trafic is destinguishable and is blocked by most ISP no matter the port. (i host my web page over 8081)

DEI37 · 12-11-2003, 07:27 PM

OK...I'll try that then. Both ports 80 & 21 are blocked, but if I can get http stuff on 8081, that would be cool. Thanks.

DEI37 · 12-11-2003, 07:32 PM

OK...when I do that, I get a 403 error, saying I'm not authorized to view the page. What gives here?

DEI37 · 12-11-2003, 07:33 PM

Here's what I'm using: http://68.191.160.17:6699

charliex · 12-11-2003, 07:44 PM

i get a cannot be displayed. i also get a connection timeout when port scanning, tried a slow scan too, same, are you firewalled ?
Got NAT?

arch13 · 12-11-2003, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DEI37
Here's what I'm using: http://68.191.160.17:6699

that should be ftp://68.191.160.17:6699
also when i try i get:
Connecting to: test
Connection Established
220-Microsoft FTP Service
220 The Fair FTP!
Connected to: test
USER anonymous

and then it hangs.
Have you configured your public folders via the console and set user limits and passwords?
make sure there's anon access and that you've set shares.
also, look into the cute ftp server program that many irc boards use. the XP/2000 server has some holes that you'll want to patch if you stick with it.

DEI37 · 12-11-2003, 07:49 PM

I'm using the Windows IIS program to do this right now. I have the folder shared. I'm using anonymous logins, so does that render passwords useless? I'll double check again. Thanks.

DEI37 · 12-11-2003, 07:51 PM

I will check in to CuteFTP...I've used it as a downloader before...I'll try it as a server. Thanks.

arch13 · 12-11-2003, 07:56 PM

Hmmm, cute ftp doesn't give the server for free anymore.
There are always ways *cough* but in the meantime look at:

http://www.bpftpserver.com/ , which i once used for a while.

and http://www.serv-u.com/ which is a know server with a good rep that still give away a fully functional server (personal version) for free.

DEI37 · 12-11-2003, 08:16 PM

OK...up with Serv-U...still doesn't seem to be working, though?

DEI37 · 12-11-2003, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charliex
i get a cannot be displayed. i also get a connection timeout when port scanning, tried a slow scan too, same, are you firewalled ?
Got NAT?

Missed your post. The answer is "yes" on both counts. How does this affect the situation?

charliex · 12-11-2003, 09:08 PM

you'll need to open up the firewall ports and forward then to the NAT'd machine thats running as the server.

Dilbert1234567 · 12-12-2003, 12:07 AM

the ISP is blocking the FTP, FTP trafic is VERY obvious it is easy to block no matter the port.

dont bother it cant be done under most ISP.

as far as i know Charter blocks FTP
SBC does not.

charliex · 12-12-2003, 01:12 AM

arch13 managed to get in though, so it doesn't seem like its blocked, if its not i'd say he'd have to setup the server to use PASV , thats generally why it hangs on listing.

also theres a control port and an ftp port, 20,21 normally

try filezilla over at sourceforge its free and has both client and server, you can limit the ports it uses, as well as which to use.

and also you be setup the firewall to forward both the control port and the ftp port.

typically with NAT youll need PASV mode set on the client

i have adelphia and pacbell and neither blocks ftp, in my area, theres no harm in trying and making sure that the firewall is setup correctly.

switch your firewall off or set it as DMZ to the machine with the ftp server and go to http://www.grc.com and run a port scan with his probe tool, it should show up then, keep the ftp server on the standard ports for the test, make sure you disable dmz or switch the firewall on after the test

if it doesnt detect it and you are sure the firewall is off or DMZ is correct, then the isp is likely blocking you, if it does find open ports you can try that,

DEI37 · 12-12-2003, 05:07 AM

Alrighty...did some of the suggestions...and then ran the grc.com port scan...and opened those up, and nothing. Dammit!!! I can upgrade to a business package that allows this stuff, but it a fair amount of money more. I guess I'll just deal for now. But, I do appreciate the help...if I do end up doing something else, it will be good information. Thank you.

arch13 · 12-12-2003, 05:32 AM

Check that you've pulled down the server if your through trying.
I was still able to get your server to respond to a ping and inital connection request before the connection failed.

dnd · 12-12-2003, 06:28 PM

microsoft iis?!!? are you crazy? personally i feel its a bad idea...so many exploits, and if the server hasn't been set up properly, its going to be very insecure. but then again, if no one canaccess the server u got nothing to worry about

12-11-2003, 06:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	Trying the FTP thing again...need Port help If you're not using the standard port (#80) to run an FTP server, what ports work? I've tried 57890, 65534, 55555, 65423, 8080, and a couple others. My ISP blocks port 80, so I'm S.O.L. there. Need your help, guys! __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

12-11-2003, 06:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	And, if someone is capable and willing...why don't you do a port scan on me to see what is open and available. 68.191.160.17 __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

12-11-2003, 07:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567 Devils Cabana Boy Location: Central Coast CA	dont use 21, dont bother if they are blocking the ftp they will block you. i host my own website but i cant host an ftp, the trafic is destinguishable and is blocked by most ISP no matter the port. (i host my web page over 8081) __________________ Donate Blood! "Love is not finding the perfect person, but learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." -Sam Keen

12-11-2003, 07:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	OK...I'll try that then. Both ports 80 & 21 are blocked, but if I can get http stuff on 8081, that would be cool. Thanks. __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

12-11-2003, 07:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	OK...when I do that, I get a 403 error, saying I'm not authorized to view the page. What gives here? __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

12-11-2003, 06:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Latch In Your Dreams Location: City of Lights	Port 80 is your HTTP port. The standard FTP port is 21, try that one. Otherwise, if you tell the FTP server to use one of those other ports (57890, 65534, 55555, 65423, 8080), you should be able to ftp to 68.191.160.17 port whatever.

12-11-2003, 07:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	Here's what I'm using: http://68.191.160.17:6699 __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised. Last edited by DEI37; 12-11-2003 at 07:41 PM..

12-11-2003, 07:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
charliex Junkie Location: North Hollywood	i get a cannot be displayed. i also get a connection timeout when port scanning, tried a slow scan too, same, are you firewalled ? Got NAT?

12-11-2003, 07:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	I'm using the Windows IIS program to do this right now. I have the folder shared. I'm using anonymous logins, so does that render passwords useless? I'll double check again. Thanks. __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

12-11-2003, 07:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	I will check in to CuteFTP...I've used it as a downloader before...I'll try it as a server. Thanks. __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

12-11-2003, 07:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
arch13 Loves my girl in thongs Location: North of Mexico, South of Canada	Hmmm, cute ftp doesn't give the server for free anymore. There are always ways cough but in the meantime look at: http://www.bpftpserver.com/ , which i once used for a while. and http://www.serv-u.com/ which is a know server with a good rep that still give away a fully functional server (personal version) for free. __________________ Seen on an employer evaluation: "The wheel is turning but the hamsters dead" ____________________________ Is arch13 really a porn diety ? find out after the film at 11. -Nanofever

12-11-2003, 08:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	OK...up with Serv-U...still doesn't seem to be working, though? __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

12-11-2003, 09:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
charliex Junkie Location: North Hollywood	you'll need to open up the firewall ports and forward then to the NAT'd machine thats running as the server.

12-12-2003, 12:07 AM	#16 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567 Devils Cabana Boy Location: Central Coast CA	the ISP is blocking the FTP, FTP trafic is VERY obvious it is easy to block no matter the port. dont bother it cant be done under most ISP. as far as i know Charter blocks FTP SBC does not. __________________ Donate Blood! "Love is not finding the perfect person, but learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." -Sam Keen

12-12-2003, 01:12 AM	#17 (permalink)
charliex Junkie Location: North Hollywood	arch13 managed to get in though, so it doesn't seem like its blocked, if its not i'd say he'd have to setup the server to use PASV , thats generally why it hangs on listing. also theres a control port and an ftp port, 20,21 normally try filezilla over at sourceforge its free and has both client and server, you can limit the ports it uses, as well as which to use. and also you be setup the firewall to forward both the control port and the ftp port. typically with NAT youll need PASV mode set on the client i have adelphia and pacbell and neither blocks ftp, in my area, theres no harm in trying and making sure that the firewall is setup correctly. switch your firewall off or set it as DMZ to the machine with the ftp server and go to http://www.grc.com and run a port scan with his probe tool, it should show up then, keep the ftp server on the standard ports for the test, make sure you disable dmz or switch the firewall on after the test if it doesnt detect it and you are sure the firewall is off or DMZ is correct, then the isp is likely blocking you, if it does find open ports you can try that,

12-12-2003, 05:07 AM	#18 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	Alrighty...did some of the suggestions...and then ran the grc.com port scan...and opened those up, and nothing. Dammit!!! I can upgrade to a business package that allows this stuff, but it a fair amount of money more. I guess I'll just deal for now. But, I do appreciate the help...if I do end up doing something else, it will be good information. Thank you. __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

12-12-2003, 05:32 AM	#19 (permalink)
arch13 Loves my girl in thongs Location: North of Mexico, South of Canada	Check that you've pulled down the server if your through trying. I was still able to get your server to respond to a ping and inital connection request before the connection failed. __________________ Seen on an employer evaluation: "The wheel is turning but the hamsters dead" ____________________________ Is arch13 really a porn diety ? find out after the film at 11. -Nanofever

12-12-2003, 06:28 PM	#20 (permalink)
dnd Psycho Location: London...no longer a student	microsoft iis?!!? are you crazy? personally i feel its a bad idea...so many exploits, and if the server hasn't been set up properly, its going to be very insecure. but then again, if no one canaccess the server u got nothing to worry about __________________ "Never underestimate a dumb question"-- Brandon Boyd