Fat32->NTFS help - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Banginblaz · 12-01-2003, 04:18 AM

I tried to convert to NTFS using the "convert c: /fs:ntfs" command, but it didnt work.

After reboot, it started, but it said "not enough disk space"

BS!!

I am doing this on a 60GB drive, with only 25.2GB partitioned, and 17.9GB of that free.

Any sugestions?

bonbonbox · 12-01-2003, 10:24 AM

A program called Partition Magic. Partitions drives, converts drives, works very good.

rubicon · 12-01-2003, 11:02 AM

You might try BootIt NG as well. Shareware with no restrictions.

The conversion program does need free space. How much free space is in your current FAT32 volume?

cradeg · 12-01-2003, 11:07 AM

is the partion you try to convert the partion you want to boot with ?

the partion you boot with has limit of 8gb in ntfs .. what OS are you using ?

Pragma · 12-01-2003, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by cradeg
the partion you boot with has limit of 8gb in ntfs .. what OS are you using ?

If you're saying that the boot partition, in NTFS, can only be 8GB, you're flat out wrong. I've got servers at work with NTFS formatted boot partitions that are hundreds of gigs.

Hopefully I misunderstood you.

charliex · 12-01-2003, 12:19 PM

try a defrag

Banginblaz · 12-01-2003, 02:33 PM

thanks for the fast replies!

First, as said in my first post, I have 17.9GB free, on a total of 25GB partition. There is an additional 31GB non partitioned space on that drive.

Second, I am tring to convert my boot partition, that is why it requiered a reboot, and it said nothing about size limits. I am running XP pro.

Third, the dist is defraged.

Forth, I am a cheap bastard, so no partitioning software for me, I did try 2 different free ones, without any luck, and the ones I found on kazaa diddnt work.

Elitegibson · 12-01-2003, 02:44 PM

Windows XP has a built in partitioning tool, but I don't believe it can change the current format of a partition, it can just allocate and format new partitions.

Control Panels -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management ->Disk Management

I also highly recommend partition magic, it's not too expensive for all of the power it has.

Banginblaz · 12-01-2003, 04:00 PM

Just downloaded BootIt NG, will let you know how it works.

Disk managment only lets you create, not resize or convert. Tried there first

Pragma · 12-01-2003, 05:04 PM

You can convert from FAT32 -> NTFS in NT-based operating systems (NT, 2000, XP, 2003).

The solution to your problems is here:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271644

According to the KB article, it's because:

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The logical block address (LBA) is not calculated correctly for certain large Integrated Device Electronics (IDE) drives.

The solution to your problems is:

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To resolve this problem, obtain the latest service pack for Windows 2000.

For future reference, this was turned up by a Google search for the following:

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ntfs conversion "not enough disk space" error

Banginblaz · 12-01-2003, 06:09 PM

2 problems with that.

1 I dont have 2000, I have xp.

2 It is fully up to date.

guthmund · 12-01-2003, 10:34 PM

Using BootIT, under the partition work menu there is the option to "slide" (it's off to the right) In the pop up menu that opens there is an option to "align for NTFS conversion."

I've never converted a boot partition (Well, the XP install....but I let it format the drive so, that doesn't count....), only extended partitions and seperate drives. I've encountered a few nagging errors, but after I've used BootIT to "align" they always go away.

I don't know how it works, it just does.

Pragma · 12-01-2003, 10:48 PM

Ah, I didn't see where you said what OS you were running.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp

The cause:

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Convert.exe uses specific work areas to create the new NTFS master file table (MFT) during the conversion process. The error message may occur if the FAT partition that you are trying to convert contains bad sectors in this work area at the end of the partition.

To verify that this is the cause of the error message, run the chkdsk /f /r command on the volume that you want to convert. If the output shows that there are bad sectors, this is likely to be the cause of the error message. The following sample output shows bad sectors in the partition:

Unfortunately, it seems like the resolution this time around is not so simple:

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To resolve this issue, you must back up or move all of the data on the FAT32 volume, reformat the volume with NTFS, and then restore your data.

cradeg · 12-02-2003, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pragma
If you're saying that the boot partition, in NTFS, can only be 8GB, you're flat out wrong. I've got servers at work with NTFS formatted boot partitions that are hundreds of gigs.

Hopefully I misunderstood you.

under nt4 it is the case

.. not under the newer ones , sorry

Pragma · 12-02-2003, 12:04 PM

Actually I think NT4 is limited to a 2GB boot partition, if memory serves me right - but I try not to think about NT4 these days. Bad flashbacks.

rubicon · 12-02-2003, 11:58 PM

Here's a thought... Using BootIt, create a copy of your partition. Boot into XP. Then run CONVERT on the copied partition. Set the new partition as the active (boot) partition and reboot.

12-01-2003, 04:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
Banginblaz Dont stop here; This is bat country! Location: North East	Fat32->NTFS help I tried to convert to NTFS using the "convert c: /fs:ntfs" command, but it didnt work. After reboot, it started, but it said "not enough disk space" BS!! I am doing this on a 60GB drive, with only 25.2GB partitioned, and 17.9GB of that free. Any sugestions?

12-01-2003, 11:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
rubicon Stop. Think. Question. Location: Redondo Beach, CA	You might try BootIt NG as well. Shareware with no restrictions. The conversion program does need free space. How much free space is in your current FAT32 volume? __________________ How you do anything is how you do everything.

12-01-2003, 11:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
cradeg Insane Location: Austria	is the partion you try to convert the partion you want to boot with ? the partion you boot with has limit of 8gb in ntfs .. what OS are you using ? __________________ *************************** For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution; and it is always wrong. ****************************

12-01-2003, 02:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
Elitegibson More Freedom, Less Bullshit Location: Tulsa, OK	Windows XP has a built in partitioning tool, but I don't believe it can change the current format of a partition, it can just allocate and format new partitions. Control Panels -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management ->Disk Management I also highly recommend partition magic, it's not too expensive for all of the power it has. __________________ -Erik Stupid people shouldn't breed.

12-01-2003, 10:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	Using BootIT, under the partition work menu there is the option to "slide" (it's off to the right) In the pop up menu that opens there is an option to "align for NTFS conversion." I've never converted a boot partition (Well, the XP install....but I let it format the drive so, that doesn't count....), only extended partitions and seperate drives. I've encountered a few nagging errors, but after I've used BootIT to "align" they always go away. I don't know how it works, it just does. __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

12-01-2003, 10:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
bonbonbox Banned	A program called Partition Magic. Partitions drives, converts drives, works very good.

12-01-2003, 12:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
charliex Junkie Location: North Hollywood	try a defrag

12-01-2003, 02:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
Banginblaz Dont stop here; This is bat country! Location: North East	thanks for the fast replies! First, as said in my first post, I have 17.9GB free, on a total of 25GB partition. There is an additional 31GB non partitioned space on that drive. Second, I am tring to convert my boot partition, that is why it requiered a reboot, and it said nothing about size limits. I am running XP pro. Third, the dist is defraged. Forth, I am a cheap bastard, so no partitioning software for me, I did try 2 different free ones, without any luck, and the ones I found on kazaa diddnt work.

12-01-2003, 04:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
Banginblaz Dont stop here; This is bat country! Location: North East	Just downloaded BootIt NG, will let you know how it works. Disk managment only lets you create, not resize or convert. Tried there first

12-01-2003, 06:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
Banginblaz Dont stop here; This is bat country! Location: North East	2 problems with that. 1 I dont have 2000, I have xp. 2 It is fully up to date.

12-02-2003, 12:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	Actually I think NT4 is limited to a 2GB boot partition, if memory serves me right - but I try not to think about NT4 these days. Bad flashbacks. __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

12-02-2003, 11:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
rubicon Stop. Think. Question. Location: Redondo Beach, CA	Here's a thought... Using BootIt, create a copy of your partition. Boot into XP. Then run CONVERT on the copied partition. Set the new partition as the active (boot) partition and reboot. __________________ How you do anything is how you do everything.