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Old 08-26-2003, 02:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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confused by gaming PCs....

alright. im int he mood for getting myself a good gaming PC. i just have no idea where i can get a good one for a reasonable price. reasonable being (for everything.. monitors, speakers, keybooard mouse all that, a total of about $2000, tho a lil more is alright)
does naybody know a good site or stroe where i can buy one for about that price?? ive been to every site i can think of, im trying to find the best price.

oh.. and if your feeling generous.. what are some good specs for a gaming PC to have?

Thanks a ton to anybody who helps !!!
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Old 08-26-2003, 02:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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www.alienware.com

it's a lil overpriced, but if you got the dough, go with alienware.
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Old 08-26-2003, 03:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The_Dude is right.

I really like my Alienware rig.
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Old 08-26-2003, 03:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Build your own. For $2000 you can make a great rig. Fuck Alienware! If I had a billion dollars in the bank I wouldn't buy one of their ugly ass overpriced PC's.

BTW, I just went to Alienware's site and built a custom PC that is about as exact to mine as I could get and it would cost $2,418.00, and who knows what the shipping would be. I guess I should add that I built mine for less than $2,000, and I don't have one of those fucking ugly ass cases looking at me.
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Old 08-26-2003, 04:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Build your own. For $2000 you can make a great rig. Fuck Alienware! If I had a billion dollars in the bank I wouldn't buy one of their ugly ass overpriced PC's.
You have to build your own to get any sort of good deal. I bought mine piece by piece from newegg.com for waaaaay under $2,000.00.
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Old 08-26-2003, 06:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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You guys talking American dollars? 'Cause you guys are getting ripped off if you are.

My (Gaming) PC:
2.4GHz Pentium 4
1024MB DDR
60GB HD
DVD-Rom
CD-RW
10/100 NIC
SB Audigy
IDE Controller
GeForce FX 5900 128MB

All for $2,500 which equates to about $1,200 USD and was bought this time last year minus the 5900.
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Old 08-26-2003, 06:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i dont think he wants to build his own pc, rather get it built.

with alienware, you know that you are getting great parts + warranty.
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Old 08-26-2003, 06:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Build your own. For $2000 you can make a great rig. Fuck Alienware! If I had a billion dollars in the bank I wouldn't buy one of their ugly ass overpriced PC's.

BTW, I just went to Alienware's site and built a custom PC that is about as exact to mine as I could get and it would cost $2,418.00, and who knows what the shipping would be. I guess I should add that I built mine for less than $2,000, and I don't have one of those fucking ugly ass cases looking at me.
Couldn't have said it better sixate. And Mr. Deflok is right - you can build a GREAT gaming PC for under 1750 easily - provided you don't mind not having the absolute best sound system in the world

If you insist on not building it (I REALLY recommend you do this, or find someone who can for you) then I honestly don't know where to look. I've never bought a pre-built comp.
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Old 08-26-2003, 06:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i dont think he wants to build his own pc, rather get it built.

with alienware, you know that you are getting great parts + warranty.
If you build your own you get the same PC for $500-$800 less. Is a fucking warranty worth $500-$800?! Hell no! Did I mention Alienware cases look like ass....

Mr.Deflok, is that the total cost including monitor, speakers, keyboard, and mouse?
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Old 08-26-2003, 06:56 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
You guys talking American dollars? 'Cause you guys are getting ripped off if you are.

My (Gaming) PC:
2.4GHz Pentium 4
1024MB DDR
60GB HD
DVD-Rom
CD-RW
10/100 NIC
SB Audigy
IDE Controller
GeForce FX 5900 128MB

All for $2,500 which equates to about $1,200 USD and was bought this time last year minus the 5900.

He also wants a monitor and a set of speakers. Quality items will add another $500 if you're going with CRT, and as much as $1000 if you're going with good speakers and an LCD.

I recommend this site: http://www.ibuypower.com

I get computers from them every once in a while as part of my work, and they have excellent stuff for the price.

AMD configurator: http://www.ibuypower.com/confirm/con...illion-pro.htm

Intel configurator:
http://www.ibuypower.com/confirm/configurator-ti-xp.htm

There's also ABS Computers, for reasonably-priced configurable rigs.

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Old 08-26-2003, 07:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If you build your own you get the same PC for $500-$800 less. Is a fucking warranty worth $500-$800?! Hell no! Did I mention Alienware cases look like ass....

Mr.Deflok, is that the total cost including monitor, speakers, keyboard, and mouse?
pure assumption, but what if he doesnt know how to build a pc?
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Old 08-26-2003, 08:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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www.voodoopc.com

inside, the equivalent to alienware's
outside: looks waaay better.

price is a little lower than alienware equivalent too.
you can also check out www.falcon-nw.com
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Old 08-26-2003, 08:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I went to Sam's club and got a top of the line HP for around that price
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Old 08-26-2003, 08:49 PM   #14 (permalink)
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pure assumption, but what if he doesnt know how to build a pc?
Sounds like a good time to learn. It's not a very difficult thing to do. And it is a fact that building your own saves mad cash. Hardcore gamers especially should have some sort of know-how of the inner workings of their pc.
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Old 08-26-2003, 09:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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i dont know how to build one, since i just got into PC gaming two years ago (right now though, its about all i do.. well, as far as i can with my comp.). id like to learn how to though, is there a site i can go to or a book to buy or something that would show me how to do it without breaking everything and such? thats why i would be worried about building, im a lil clumsy at times, if i didnt know how to do it right something would end up broken.
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Old 08-26-2003, 09:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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LOL, fools, I built my own PC and YES I got a Monitor (17" Phillips 107s), YES I got a Keyboard (Chicony Multimedia Keyboard), YES I got a Mouse (Microsoft Optical) and last but not least I got a Sound System too (Jazz 5.1 Surround System with standalone receiver).

Booyakasha! Eat that Johnny Rotten! lol

However I did pay extra for my second 20GB hard-drive, silver reflective IDE cables, green neon light, second 10/100 NIC, card cooler, network switch, scanner and printer.

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Old 08-26-2003, 10:12 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Moe,
You can pick up just about any supermarket magazine such as Smart Computing or PC Magazine that give start to finish, detailed, photo-assisted instructions for those who don't know what they're doing. It's very basic. Just take your time and learn as you go.

Plus, that way you buy only what you NEED, not what you're stuck with.
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Old 08-27-2003, 02:14 AM   #18 (permalink)
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i dont know how to build one, since i just got into PC gaming two years ago (right now though, its about all i do.. well, as far as i can with my comp.). id like to learn how to though, is there a site i can go to or a book to buy or something that would show me how to do it without breaking everything and such? thats why i would be worried about building, im a lil clumsy at times, if i didnt know how to do it right something would end up broken.
Here's a place to start. I'd also buy a few PC mags cause they have installation tips in pretty much all of them.
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Old 08-27-2003, 05:38 AM   #19 (permalink)
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LOL, fools, I built my own PC and YES I got a Monitor (17" Phillips 107s), YES I got a Keyboard (Chicony Multimedia Keyboard), YES I got a Mouse (Microsoft Optical) and last but not least I got a Sound System too (Jazz 5.1 Surround System with standalone receiver).

Booyakasha! Eat that Johnny Rotten! lol

However I did pay extra for my second 20GB hard-drive, silver reflective IDE cables, green neon light, second 10/100 NIC, card cooler, network switch, scanner and printer.
Ya, but you said that you got the FX 5900 later, thats another $400-500 right there. My computer was about $1000 dollars without my video card, including speakers and monitor and all that.

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2.8c GHz p4
1024 pc3200 Geil Ram
100 Gig Harddrive
40 gig Harddrive
CD/RW
gigabit Lan card
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Old 08-27-2003, 06:13 AM   #20 (permalink)
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www.cyberpowerpc.com

That's the closest to building your own computer, in terms of price I think.

Whatever you do, don't get a dell, hpcompaq, etc., etc.
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Old 08-27-2003, 07:26 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Amen to building your own. Thats what I've done for my last 2 computers.

If I for some reason didn't build it myself, I'd go with Ibuypower. Cyberpower and Pudget are also decent.

The mainstream computers are not generally a good choice.
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Old 08-27-2003, 09:11 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Build your own. Go to a computer show and buy all the shit and slap it together. Or, you can get a vendor there to put it together and you'll save $$$.

If you're gonna go pre built, alienware is prolly the best for gaming. But, DO NOT buy a major brand pc. HP, Dell, IBM...all fucking trash!
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Old 08-27-2003, 09:12 AM   #23 (permalink)
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If you want to order parts, here are some recommended sites:

http://www.newegg.com
http://www.svcompucycle.com
http://www.googlegear.com
http://www.monarchcomputer.com
http://www.directron.com

They are all rated highly at http://www.resellerratings.com (a site I strongly recommend you check before buying any parts from an online reseller).
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Old 08-27-2003, 09:18 AM   #24 (permalink)
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LOL, fools, I built my own PC and YES I got a Monitor (17" Phillips 107s), YES I got a Keyboard (Chicony Multimedia Keyboard), YES I got a Mouse (Microsoft Optical) and last but not least I got a Sound System too (Jazz 5.1 Surround System with standalone receiver).
Right, but you didn't list any of that in your first post, so I just assumed you'd paid $1,200 for what you'd originally listed, minus the $400-500 video card.
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Old 08-27-2003, 10:04 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Build your own. Go to a computer show and buy all the shit and slap it together. Or, you can get a vendor there to put it together and you'll save $$$.

If you're gonna go pre built, alienware is prolly the best for gaming. But, DO NOT buy a major brand pc. HP, Dell, IBM...all fucking trash!
IBM is not trash. Not for gaming, but that doesn't make it trash.
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Old 08-27-2003, 12:36 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Ya, but you said that you got the FX 5900 later, thats another $400-500 right there. My computer was about $1000 dollars without my video card, including speakers and monitor and all that.

Shuttle SB61G2
2.8c GHz p4
1024 pc3200 Geil Ram
100 Gig Harddrive
40 gig Harddrive
CD/RW
gigabit Lan card
But I bought the rest of my PC this time last year when prices were significantly higher than theey are now. Anyway you look at it I got a sweet deal.
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Old 08-27-2003, 06:59 PM   #27 (permalink)
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alienware sucks ass now.... their cases are made of horrible cheap plastic... build your own comp... its so easy...
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Old 08-28-2003, 05:00 AM   #28 (permalink)
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so much hate.

I don't know what to suggest for you bud, cause I don't know your experience. I've built computers for 8 years, and my computer itself is over $6000. But it started with a foundation of $2000.


building your own would be fun, but my bud decided to do that for the first time and he couldn't get it working. Called me. If you don't have anyone to go too that would suck. Mom and pop computer stores may build you one, but they will try to stick ass stuff in their unless you specify what you want, and their warrenties may be a little iffy.

An aquaintence of mine owns overdrivepc.com here in ga, and they can build you a good machine but I don't know about the price.

All in all, I don't want to give you an answer based on hate and emotion like some post above. Who cares what people think about other companies, the guy has a simple question.
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Old 08-28-2003, 06:46 AM   #29 (permalink)
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A site I use a lot to get named brand stuff at a discount is www.pricewatch.com

You can build a pc or buynone. It is basically a listing of online stores selling stuff at a pretty good discount. You don't always get the packaging of the storebrand, but I have had little problems with my orders there...
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Old 08-28-2003, 08:03 PM   #30 (permalink)
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A site I use a lot to get named brand stuff at a discount is www.pricewatch.com

I am very surprised that it took this long to list that site.....

Quote:
...but I have had little problems with my orders there...
That really all depends on what company you purchase through.... if you pick a shotty store, you get shotty equip....


Anyway....trial by fire is the best approach at learning something new... the way that computers are put together now-a-days...it is very difficult to damage your equipment unless that is what you are trying to do.

Do some research... price individual parts... make the comparison. If you think that the money that you will save, or the added equipment capabilities for the same price are worth it to you, build it... if you get into a hard spot, you will know where to find us....

Good luck, let us know what you end up doing....
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Old 08-28-2003, 08:33 PM   #31 (permalink)
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so much hate.

I don't know what to suggest for you bud, cause I don't know your experience. I've built computers for 8 years, and my computer itself is over $6000. But it started with a foundation of $2000.


building your own would be fun, but my bud decided to do that for the first time and he couldn't get it working. Called me. If you don't have anyone to go too that would suck. Mom and pop computer stores may build you one, but they will try to stick ass stuff in their unless you specify what you want, and their warrenties may be a little iffy.

An aquaintence of mine owns overdrivepc.com here in ga, and they can build you a good machine but I don't know about the price.

All in all, I don't want to give you an answer based on hate and emotion like some post above. Who cares what people think about other companies, the guy has a simple question.
$6000?

That's a hell of a lot of money for a desktop (unless you use it for work)... are you counting monitors, etc.?

I don't know if I could spend that much money on one computer if I tried. Oh wait, I could.
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Old 08-28-2003, 08:59 PM   #32 (permalink)
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http://www.abspc.com/index.asp

I like these guys if you decide not to build your own. However, don't even consider an Alienware.

If you build your own look at prices on
http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/Home.jsp or

http://www.newegg.com/

and good luck.
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Old 08-29-2003, 09:00 AM   #33 (permalink)
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3 easy steps to building a PC for people who know nothing about computers.
1. find a college
2. Slip the main IT(tech support) man $20 and ask him to pick one out for you. You'll save many hundreds of dollars.
3. see if he'll "help" you put it together for an extra $50. this way by being there and paying attention you make sure he doesnt pocket "spare parts" and you get a little comp education.
most people are trustworthy, untill you take your eyes off of them.
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