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Speed_Gibson · 07-26-2003, 11:38 AM

used to use Morpheus briefly back in the day, but I have very little taste for low quality audio files or codecs. I will not even look at MP3 below 192kbps usually and I avoid that codec like the plague whenever possible.
If I could get Flac, Musepack, or Ogg-Vorbis files, then I might possibly consider looking at the P2P services.

07-26-2003, 07:42 PM

It's pretty much a crapshoot at this point in time; I'm not fully convinced between this being a scare tactic or this being the start of something much bigger.

docbungle · 07-26-2003, 07:58 PM

YaWhateva,

As has been stated in here before, it is not the RIAA who has your IP address; they get it from your ISP, who are bound by law to give it to them.

t3m3st · 07-26-2003, 09:22 PM

If filesharing programs are all illiminated, I will be so pissed off. Why, you ask? What do I download? Well, two of my favorite television shows, South Park and Stargate SG1, well, no station I get carries new episodes. Both shows are in their seventh seasons, and all I'm seeing are repeats from seasons four and five, respectively. I buy the DVD sets as they come out, and I've spent a pretty penny on merchandise, so if Kazaa goes down, I don't get to watch those shows anymore. That sucks Donkey Ass! And I'm tired of buying CDs and paying these people to hunt me down. Damn it! Where's the money going? New Finger Eleven cd is in a freakin' paper case!!11 I already ripped it. (That was meant as a pun, BTW...) Just scared is all. I hate the RIAA...

Kadath · 07-26-2003, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrSelfDestruct
DOS prompt: netstat -n

All connections will be displayed.

Myself, I use -a to get all.

Frowning Budah · 07-27-2003, 11:51 AM

Just whom does RIAA represent so I know who to boycott.

sultanx · 07-27-2003, 09:51 PM

Kazaa is all around bad, it installs over 119 spyware scripts and opens at a minimum of 7 ports. Ports that are opened by a approved program through a firewall leaving you quite vulrnable for hackers, and because your on a P2P network your ip is kept in a DB. I love P2P networks its like taking candy from a retarded baby.

juanvaldes · 07-27-2003, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Frowning Budah
Just whom does RIAA represent so I know who to boycott.

well, the riaa website appears to be down. riaa.org

it's ALOT of companys but the big 5 record labels call the shots.

sultanx · 07-27-2003, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Frowning Budah
Just whom does RIAA represent so I know who to boycott.

Recording Industry Assocation of America

they represent any non-independent and some independent recording and production studios. Why would you like to ban them Frowning Budah?

Xell101 · 07-28-2003, 02:27 AM

I bet K++ is a clever RIAA ploy. The RIAA are soviets.

When in doubt, blame the Soviets.

Great Scott · 07-28-2003, 02:36 AM

As long as they don't start coming after my Direct Connect. Well chances are they will, or the recored companys will just get smart and make new incentives for me to buy music (for example i-tunes)

Hrothgar · 07-28-2003, 03:00 PM

Simple solution don't use Kazaa. There are other alternatives:
Bittorrent, Overnet, Emule , etc, etc.

YaWhateva · 07-28-2003, 10:07 PM

bittorrent is great.

sultanx · 07-28-2003, 10:17 PM

They are all based on the same thing and one by one they will all be subject to the same thing as Kazaa and Napster...

supernova · 07-29-2003, 06:43 AM

Quote:

RIAA will take 2191.78 years to sue everyone

Sum hope

By INQUIRER staff: Tuesday 29 July 2003, 10:31
READER MICHAELA STEPHENS says that if the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is right and that 60 million US folk are file sharing, it's going to take the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) a mighty long time to get round to them all.
She said: "I pulled out my calculator to see just how long it would take the RIAA to sue all 60 million P2P music file traders at a rate of 75 a day. 60,000,000/75 = 800,000 days to subpoena each person or 800,000 days/365 days in a year = 2191.78 years to subpoena each person".

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10733

Just goes to show how ridiculous this whole thing is. All the RIAA is doing is shooting themselves in the foot. Why don't they just capitalize on this idea, like Apple with the iPod?

hotzot · 07-29-2003, 05:16 PM

with my luck , I'd be 1 of the 15,000 they start with.

YaWhateva · 07-31-2003, 08:21 PM

check this out:

http://news.com.com/2100-1027-998363.html

courts rule that Morpheus and Grokster are legal, comparing them to people who make vcr recorders, sure they are made for legal use but there are those people who will use them to illegally recorder movies.

and

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/30887

pac bell filed a suit against the RIAA for illegally getting subpoenas and invasion of their customers privacy. I hope other ISP's will follow pac bell's example.

oh and why havent all the porn industries filed suits against people sharing their stuff on kazaa and also all the people who share illegal warez, why hasnt microsoft and all the gaming companies filed suit against them? Because the amount of money and time that would be spent on it is not worth the amount of money that has been lost in the illegal copying of their products. the RIAA needs to wake up.

hotzot · 08-01-2003, 08:11 AM

well, I'd wish they would wake up quick. My kids are bugging the hell out of me.

LNCPapa · 08-01-2003, 10:32 AM

I buy A LOT MORE music since I started downloading from Kazaa. Anyone else moved in that direction?

Quote:

Originally posted by Kadath
Myself, I use -a to get all.

LOL - me too

YaWhateva · 08-01-2003, 11:29 AM

Ya i do that too, i dl something and if i like it i will buy it. Also there is stuff that i dl that i wouldnt buy anyways.

freedomdowntime · 08-01-2003, 01:23 PM

Ghettobootybabe8@Kazaa
hooterzzz@Kazaa
hottdude0587@Kazaa

ahhh, Hottdude, welcome to federal prison. That's right, your lovely senaters make it a fellony for your sharing days. No one wants to hear about how it was really your son. Don't drop the soap Ghettobootybabe8.

Only thing I can think of is donate and donate fast, www.eff.org

CaptainFluffer · 08-02-2003, 09:46 AM

Just get the latest version with the built in IP blocker...

tcxsnoop · 08-02-2003, 01:47 PM

bittorent and IRC XDCC bots are the way to go nowadays. 'ive stopped using kazaa lite all togeather.

Pragma · 08-02-2003, 02:43 PM

The IP blocker will not keep you safe, so I wouldn't depend on it as your only line of defense, CaptainFluffer.

fuzzix · 08-04-2003, 06:21 AM

http://www.boycott-riaa.com/
for all you folks who hate the RIAA and want info on who to boycott. I'll just say this: don't be a pansy and not share just because the RIAA is making a few ludicrous threats, outsmart them. Keep the piracy rife! We'll crush them and they know it. And don't worry about the artists, those of them with a bit of sense (PROPER artists, not manufactured RIAA acts) will simply abandon their dying RIAA vessel as soon as they can, and move on to others. It's the artists who need to wake up to themselves, those who cling to the notion that the RIAA is protecting them in some way are just wallowing in their ignorance. Another way to kill them is to ignore mainstream music completely, most of it is crap anyway - look on the 'net and you can find some excellent free, legal music.

a2k · 08-04-2003, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pragma

What do you mean "doesn't let others search through your shared file" ? You mean "doesn't share any files" or what? If it doesn't let you share files, and everyone uses it, then you'd quickly run out of content on Kazaa.

I believe KazaaLite and K++ have a setting that lets you decide if someone can view your entire shared collection. Their thinking is that if the RIAA downloads 1 file from you to see if you are guilty, they cannot look at all of your files to see how guilty...

I recently saw a listing on Craigslist where someone was selling a 200 GB hard drive, and the listing said "This hard drive currently houses my 180 GB mp3 collection, ripped at 192k from the original CD. I will, of course, format the drive at buyer's request."

afirocks · 09-12-2003, 06:23 AM

i was hoping that someone would mention how to use ftp
i cant seem to connect to anyone. i am using wsftp. If anybody has an ftp server, please pm me with the info so that i can see if this is going to work at all. i would love to have the practice, as well as the music. or just send me some addresses of the ftp servers that allow anonamous connections
thanks

bonbonbox · 09-12-2003, 11:57 AM

(I step up)
I subscribe to the thought, "You can't get blood out of a rock." I live in Texas and the RIAA may be able to get a judgement but they will never collect on it. As for the morality of file sharing, specifically music files, my view is that as artists/musicians should sing for thier supper. That is make their $ performing live. The recording industry is raping artists left and right and because of todays technology they are out of a job, much like the Blacksmith of yesteryear. I listen to groups that I would never have heard of before and if they would get out and play I would gladly go see them, as I enjoy a show. The artists aren't inflating the price of music, the music companies are. This is a full fledged revolt by the people and our message is, "Off with their heads!". If I were a musician I would put my music on my website for all to download for a nominal fee, say a $1 or $2 and, in the words of the Right Reverend Ray Charles "Hit the road Jack". As for CD's that can't be ripped and other such nonsence, if it can be played it can be re-recorded, period. Get with the program music industry and stop your insane attack on the hand that feeds you.
(I step down now.)

cartmen34 · 09-12-2003, 12:36 PM

I may be repeating what someone said earlier, you know, all of this could be avoided if all the record companies would just set up their own version of iTunes. I shudder to say it, but Apple does have a good idea here.

I'd have been more than happy to have paid up to $1 per song so I could legally download it. If I don't like it, I'm out a mere dollar. If I like a few of the songs, I download the whole album, that's still $12-$18 per album. I fail to see the problem with that.

As it stands now, the RIAA can go F*** themselves. They'll never see a dime from me again.

Hanabal · 09-12-2003, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by docbungle
YaWhateva,

As has been stated in here before, it is not the RIAA who has your IP address; they get it from your ISP, who are bound by law to give it to them.

I just checked my contract, and lo and behold it states that any and all of my details will not under any curcumstances be given out without my written appoval, but I live in NZ where we take privacy pretty seriously.

Also all the K++ IP blocking is to prevent you from getting the RIAA version of songs, ie full of static, nothing to do with protcting you.

mattevil · 09-13-2003, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cartmen34
I may be repeating what someone said earlier, you know, all of this could be avoided if all the record companies would just set up their own version of iTunes. I shudder to say it, but Apple does have a good idea here.

I'd have been more than happy to have paid up to $1 per song so I could legally download it. If I don't like it, I'm out a mere dollar. If I like a few of the songs, I download the whole album, that's still $12-$18 per album. I fail to see the problem with that.

As it stands now, the RIAA can go F*** themselves. They'll never see a dime from me again.

most albulms on itunes are 9.99

quantumburnz · 09-13-2003, 12:31 PM

I think the RIAA needs to give up. It's hopeless, they can't stop it, and it just sucks for the few people who are getting in trouble...

hotzot · 09-13-2003, 11:12 PM

As long as the RIAA is getting $3000 from the parents of 12 year olds they won't give up.

mattevil · 09-15-2003, 09:55 AM

actually
P2P United (which includes: LimeWire, eDonkey, Morpheus, Grokster, Blubster, and BearShare) has agreed to the $2,000 settlement of that 12-year old girl. In addition, MusicRebellion.com (an on-line service that legally sells songs for 99 cents) has offered the girl an account which allows her to download $2,000 worth of songs, free of charge.
I'd like to get a sweet deal like that(know I won't if i'm caught.

loxor · 09-25-2003, 12:11 AM

Does anybody know the list of the IP address the RIAA are using ?... and btw.. has anybody have goten C&D letters from there ISP's ?

07-26-2003, 09:22 PM	#44 (permalink)
t3m3st Vroom! Location: Toronto	If filesharing programs are all illiminated, I will be so pissed off. Why, you ask? What do I download? Well, two of my favorite television shows, South Park and Stargate SG1, well, no station I get carries new episodes. Both shows are in their seventh seasons, and all I'm seeing are repeats from seasons four and five, respectively. I buy the DVD sets as they come out, and I've spent a pretty penny on merchandise, so if Kazaa goes down, I don't get to watch those shows anymore. That sucks Donkey Ass! And I'm tired of buying CDs and paying these people to hunt me down. Damn it! Where's the money going? New Finger Eleven cd is in a freakin' paper case!!11 I already ripped it. (That was meant as a pun, BTW...) Just scared is all. I hate the RIAA... __________________ I do it for the rare drops

07-28-2003, 03:00 PM	#52 (permalink)
Hrothgar He's My Girl Location: The Champagne Douche	Simple solution don't use Kazaa. There are other alternatives: Bittorrent, Overnet, Emule , etc, etc. __________________ The fortunes of war favored Hrothgar.

07-28-2003, 10:07 PM	#53 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	bittorrent is great. __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!"

07-28-2003, 10:17 PM	#54 (permalink)
sultanx Upright Location: the wireless	They are all based on the same thing and one by one they will all be subject to the same thing as Kazaa and Napster... __________________ wireless revolution - THE TIME IS NOW!

07-29-2003, 05:16 PM	#56 (permalink)
hotzot We're having potato pancakes! Location: stalag 13	with my luck , I'd be 1 of the 15,000 they start with. __________________ The Bully Boys are here!

07-26-2003, 11:38 AM	#41 (permalink)
Speed_Gibson Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Location: right here of course	used to use Morpheus briefly back in the day, but I have very little taste for low quality audio files or codecs. I will not even look at MP3 below 192kbps usually and I avoid that codec like the plague whenever possible. If I could get Flac, Musepack, or Ogg-Vorbis files, then I might possibly consider looking at the P2P services.

07-26-2003, 07:42 PM	#42 (permalink)
Achernar Guest	It's pretty much a crapshoot at this point in time; I'm not fully convinced between this being a scare tactic or this being the start of something much bigger.

07-26-2003, 07:58 PM	#43 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	YaWhateva, As has been stated in here before, it is not the RIAA who has your IP address; they get it from your ISP, who are bound by law to give it to them.

07-27-2003, 11:51 AM	#46 (permalink)
Frowning Budah Slave of Fear	Just whom does RIAA represent so I know who to boycott.

07-27-2003, 09:51 PM	#47 (permalink)
sultanx Upright Location: the wireless	Kazaa is all around bad, it installs over 119 spyware scripts and opens at a minimum of 7 ports. Ports that are opened by a approved program through a firewall leaving you quite vulrnable for hackers, and because your on a P2P network your ip is kept in a DB. I love P2P networks its like taking candy from a retarded baby.

07-28-2003, 02:27 AM	#50 (permalink)
Xell101 Junkie	I bet K++ is a clever RIAA ploy. The RIAA are soviets. When in doubt, blame the Soviets.

07-28-2003, 02:36 AM	#51 (permalink)
Great Scott Insane Location: In a huge maze just trying to find my cheese	As long as they don't start coming after my Direct Connect. Well chances are they will, or the recored companys will just get smart and make new incentives for me to buy music (for example i-tunes)

07-31-2003, 08:21 PM	#57 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	check this out: http://news.com.com/2100-1027-998363.html courts rule that Morpheus and Grokster are legal, comparing them to people who make vcr recorders, sure they are made for legal use but there are those people who will use them to illegally recorder movies. and http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/30887 pac bell filed a suit against the RIAA for illegally getting subpoenas and invasion of their customers privacy. I hope other ISP's will follow pac bell's example. oh and why havent all the porn industries filed suits against people sharing their stuff on kazaa and also all the people who share illegal warez, why hasnt microsoft and all the gaming companies filed suit against them? Because the amount of money and time that would be spent on it is not worth the amount of money that has been lost in the illegal copying of their products. the RIAA needs to wake up. __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!" Last edited by YaWhateva; 07-31-2003 at 08:26 PM..

08-01-2003, 08:11 AM	#58 (permalink)
hotzot We're having potato pancakes! Location: stalag 13	well, I'd wish they would wake up quick. My kids are bugging the hell out of me. __________________ The Bully Boys are here!

08-01-2003, 11:29 AM	#60 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	Ya i do that too, i dl something and if i like it i will buy it. Also there is stuff that i dl that i wouldnt buy anyways. __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!"

08-01-2003, 01:23 PM	#61 (permalink)
freedomdowntime Banned	Ghettobootybabe8@Kazaa hooterzzz@Kazaa hottdude0587@Kazaa ahhh, Hottdude, welcome to federal prison. That's right, your lovely senaters make it a fellony for your sharing days. No one wants to hear about how it was really your son. Don't drop the soap Ghettobootybabe8. Only thing I can think of is donate and donate fast, www.eff.org

08-02-2003, 09:46 AM	#62 (permalink)
CaptainFluffer Banned Location: Pussy awp camping	Just get the latest version with the built in IP blocker...

08-02-2003, 01:47 PM	#63 (permalink)
tcxsnoop Crazy Location: Jerzee	bittorent and IRC XDCC bots are the way to go nowadays. 'ive stopped using kazaa lite all togeather. __________________ Carmella DeCesare > All Thank You - Liqour Dealer, asdf1001, Candyman

08-02-2003, 02:43 PM	#64 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	The IP blocker will not keep you safe, so I wouldn't depend on it as your only line of defense, CaptainFluffer. __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

08-04-2003, 06:21 AM	#65 (permalink)
fuzzix Psycho Location: Australia	http://www.boycott-riaa.com/ for all you folks who hate the RIAA and want info on who to boycott. I'll just say this: don't be a pansy and not share just because the RIAA is making a few ludicrous threats, outsmart them. Keep the piracy rife! We'll crush them and they know it. And don't worry about the artists, those of them with a bit of sense (PROPER artists, not manufactured RIAA acts) will simply abandon their dying RIAA vessel as soon as they can, and move on to others. It's the artists who need to wake up to themselves, those who cling to the notion that the RIAA is protecting them in some way are just wallowing in their ignorance. Another way to kill them is to ignore mainstream music completely, most of it is crap anyway - look on the 'net and you can find some excellent free, legal music. __________________ I'm most definately not 'lovin' it'.

09-12-2003, 06:23 AM	#67 (permalink)
afirocks Crazy	i was hoping that someone would mention how to use ftp i cant seem to connect to anyone. i am using wsftp. If anybody has an ftp server, please pm me with the info so that i can see if this is going to work at all. i would love to have the practice, as well as the music. or just send me some addresses of the ftp servers that allow anonamous connections thanks

09-12-2003, 11:57 AM	#68 (permalink)
bonbonbox Banned	(I step up) I subscribe to the thought, "You can't get blood out of a rock." I live in Texas and the RIAA may be able to get a judgement but they will never collect on it. As for the morality of file sharing, specifically music files, my view is that as artists/musicians should sing for thier supper. That is make their $ performing live. The recording industry is raping artists left and right and because of todays technology they are out of a job, much like the Blacksmith of yesteryear. I listen to groups that I would never have heard of before and if they would get out and play I would gladly go see them, as I enjoy a show. The artists aren't inflating the price of music, the music companies are. This is a full fledged revolt by the people and our message is, "Off with their heads!". If I were a musician I would put my music on my website for all to download for a nominal fee, say a $1 or $2 and, in the words of the Right Reverend Ray Charles "Hit the road Jack". As for CD's that can't be ripped and other such nonsence, if it can be played it can be re-recorded, period. Get with the program music industry and stop your insane attack on the hand that feeds you. (I step down now.)

09-12-2003, 12:36 PM	#69 (permalink)
cartmen34 Psycho Location: the hills of aquafina.	I may be repeating what someone said earlier, you know, all of this could be avoided if all the record companies would just set up their own version of iTunes. I shudder to say it, but Apple does have a good idea here. I'd have been more than happy to have paid up to $1 per song so I could legally download it. If I don't like it, I'm out a mere dollar. If I like a few of the songs, I download the whole album, that's still $12-$18 per album. I fail to see the problem with that. As it stands now, the RIAA can go F*** themselves. They'll never see a dime from me again. __________________ "The problem with quick and dirty, as some people have said, is that the dirty remains long after the quick has been forgotten" - Steve McConnell

09-13-2003, 12:31 PM	#72 (permalink)
quantumburnz Tilted Location: Tucson, AZ	I think the RIAA needs to give up. It's hopeless, they can't stop it, and it just sucks for the few people who are getting in trouble... __________________ University of Arizona Tucson, AZ Computer Engineering

09-13-2003, 11:12 PM	#73 (permalink)
hotzot We're having potato pancakes! Location: stalag 13	As long as the RIAA is getting $3000 from the parents of 12 year olds they won't give up. __________________ The Bully Boys are here!

09-15-2003, 09:55 AM	#74 (permalink)
mattevil Addict Location: Virginia	actually P2P United (which includes: LimeWire, eDonkey, Morpheus, Grokster, Blubster, and BearShare) has agreed to the $2,000 settlement of that 12-year old girl. In addition, MusicRebellion.com (an on-line service that legally sells songs for 99 cents) has offered the girl an account which allows her to download $2,000 worth of songs, free of charge. I'd like to get a sweet deal like that(know I won't if i'm caught. Last edited by mattevil; 09-15-2003 at 10:00 AM..

09-25-2003, 12:11 AM	#75 (permalink)
loxor Upright Location: Kalamazoo . Mi	Does anybody know the list of the IP address the RIAA are using ?... and btw.. has anybody have goten C&D letters from there ISP's ?