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fitz7099 · 07-23-2003, 09:08 AM

Yes...I am back, with the same problem, as some of you may remember.

Here's the story. I finally have all my parts to build my computer! WOOT! I carefully put everything together and double check it. I boot up and install XP. "Wow! This is going really smooth! Maybe it will work on the first time!" Wrong....

Specs:

A7N8X NON-deluxe
2800+ Barton Core
512 ddr400
350 watt power supply - atx
80 GB 7200rpm Western Digital
56x Mad Dog CD-Rom
Sony Floppy
Albatron :? GeForce4 Ti 4200 128mb

So after installing XP I start installing drivers for the modem, audio, video card, etc. When I get to the video card (Albatron GF4 ti4200) I install the drivers from the CD that was in cluded. I think they were the Detonator 40.11 drivers. So, they finish installing the Detonator drivers and it promts me to restart. Ok. Windows loads, and hell decides to move into my computer. SDHBSEIOPRGNLKEDNSG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <==Represents my anger

. Quite a few things happen. When ever anything on the screen changes (ei: clicking "start," single clicking an icon, right click on the desktop, etc - simple gui changes) the monitor will seem the turn off, then turn back on, showing the change. Also I get random resolution changes, and pixels do not display correctly.

My conclusion is that I do not have enough power for the video card, but I would like to here your input too. If you have ANY, yes ANY, ideas please post

Thank you,
-john

P.S. I have already RMA'ed this same card twice because of the same problems listed above :?

rocinante2003 · 07-23-2003, 09:18 AM

A couple of suggestions.

Do you have another AGP card that you can test the AGP bus on your motherboard.

In your bois, try changing your AGP speed from 4x to 2x. This isnt a solution, but I believe when you instal nVidia divers it enables 4x, and this may be why your card functioned before the driver instal.

Download the latest drivers from Nvidia.com.

Have you installed the Nforce2 drivers for the motherboard. These include AGP bus drivers.

fitz7099 · 07-23-2003, 10:07 AM

I tryed everything you said, and I still have the same problems.

cj22009 · 07-23-2003, 11:38 AM

Has to be one or two things like you said not enough power for the card or one of the ram chips on the card has gone bad also try the newest video drivers 44.03 dets on nvidas site

fitz7099 · 07-23-2003, 12:47 PM

Would not enough power cause the gf4 to make the monitor flicker off then on whenever ANY gui in windows changes, except the mouse cursor?

I'll try a different power supply, sometime, once i get a chance to buy one.

How would the video memory chips go bad?

zynyxx · 07-23-2003, 02:09 PM

If you aren't getting any "block" or strange characters and have tried the latest video drivers I would try adjusting the Monitor refresh rates and see if that does anything for the flicker.

Vanquish · 07-23-2003, 02:40 PM

The power shouldn't have anything to do with it. If it was power his comp would be locking up not just resetting the Refresh rate / res of the monitor. Also if it was the memory chips he would be seeing atrifacts on the screen, I believe this is an issue in the drivers or a defective card. First you should install drivers for your monitor, not just the Win XP ones, if there are any for your brand, but find some new ones and install them. Second, lock the Refresh rate of your monitor, this can be found under the Settings - Advanced - GF4 - Direct 3d - Refresh Rates. Win XP uses some 3d with there menus and other things so its worth a shot. I would suggest trying a new card in your comp, and then trying your card in a different comp. If it still happens, RMA the card and get a new one.

Oh and one more thing to try, Set your Graphics Arpiture size to 128, never know it might help.

yodapaul · 07-23-2003, 04:29 PM

Don't Geforce 4 cards require an external power connector? example: the kind of power you would use for a hard drive?

If so, DId you connect the power conncector to the GF4 card?

Vanquish · 07-23-2003, 09:10 PM

na the Radeon 9700 was the first to need a external power connector (well the voodoo 5 6000 was teh first, but we all know where that "little" fella is now)

ningato · 07-23-2003, 09:14 PM

Update your motherboard bios and windows inf files

Laslow · 07-23-2003, 09:16 PM

I have similar parts running on a cheap 300W PSU. Maybe your motherboard is the problem... =/

rocinante2003 · 07-23-2003, 11:10 PM

I think, as mentioned above your Mobos on the fritz

fitz7099 · 07-24-2003, 01:50 PM

If you need more info/ideas read this thread

http://www.motherboards.org/forums/v...ic.php?t=28288

Is there any way to check for damage that my motherboard may have sustained?

07-23-2003, 09:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
fitz7099 Upright	Gefore crap...errr.....4, please read Yes...I am back, with the same problem, as some of you may remember. Here's the story. I finally have all my parts to build my computer! WOOT! I carefully put everything together and double check it. I boot up and install XP. "Wow! This is going really smooth! Maybe it will work on the first time!" Wrong.... Specs: A7N8X NON-deluxe 2800+ Barton Core 512 ddr400 350 watt power supply - atx 80 GB 7200rpm Western Digital 56x Mad Dog CD-Rom Sony Floppy Albatron :? GeForce4 Ti 4200 128mb So after installing XP I start installing drivers for the modem, audio, video card, etc. When I get to the video card (Albatron GF4 ti4200) I install the drivers from the CD that was in cluded. I think they were the Detonator 40.11 drivers. So, they finish installing the Detonator drivers and it promts me to restart. Ok. Windows loads, and hell decides to move into my computer. SDHBSEIOPRGNLKEDNSG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <==Represents my anger . Quite a few things happen. When ever anything on the screen changes (ei: clicking "start," single clicking an icon, right click on the desktop, etc - simple gui changes) the monitor will seem the turn off, then turn back on, showing the change. Also I get random resolution changes, and pixels do not display correctly. My conclusion is that I do not have enough power for the video card, but I would like to here your input too. If you have ANY, yes ANY, ideas please post Thank you, -john P.S. I have already RMA'ed this same card twice because of the same problems listed above :? Last edited by fitz7099; 07-23-2003 at 09:11 AM..

07-23-2003, 04:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
yodapaul Insane Location: MN	Don't Geforce 4 cards require an external power connector? example: the kind of power you would use for a hard drive? If so, DId you connect the power conncector to the GF4 card? __________________ I'm Just here to help. Now, Where is your problem?

07-23-2003, 09:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
rocinante2003 Insane Location: Dallas	A couple of suggestions. Do you have another AGP card that you can test the AGP bus on your motherboard. In your bois, try changing your AGP speed from 4x to 2x. This isnt a solution, but I believe when you instal nVidia divers it enables 4x, and this may be why your card functioned before the driver instal. Download the latest drivers from Nvidia.com. Have you installed the Nforce2 drivers for the motherboard. These include AGP bus drivers.

07-23-2003, 10:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
fitz7099 Upright	I tryed everything you said, and I still have the same problems.

07-23-2003, 11:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
cj22009 On the edge of control Location: Ga	Has to be one or two things like you said not enough power for the card or one of the ram chips on the card has gone bad also try the newest video drivers 44.03 dets on nvidas site

07-23-2003, 12:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
fitz7099 Upright	Would not enough power cause the gf4 to make the monitor flicker off then on whenever ANY gui in windows changes, except the mouse cursor? I'll try a different power supply, sometime, once i get a chance to buy one. How would the video memory chips go bad?

07-23-2003, 02:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
zynyxx Tilted	If you aren't getting any "block" or strange characters and have tried the latest video drivers I would try adjusting the Monitor refresh rates and see if that does anything for the flicker.

07-23-2003, 02:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
Vanquish Insane Location: Truro, Nova Scotia	The power shouldn't have anything to do with it. If it was power his comp would be locking up not just resetting the Refresh rate / res of the monitor. Also if it was the memory chips he would be seeing atrifacts on the screen, I believe this is an issue in the drivers or a defective card. First you should install drivers for your monitor, not just the Win XP ones, if there are any for your brand, but find some new ones and install them. Second, lock the Refresh rate of your monitor, this can be found under the Settings - Advanced - GF4 - Direct 3d - Refresh Rates. Win XP uses some 3d with there menus and other things so its worth a shot. I would suggest trying a new card in your comp, and then trying your card in a different comp. If it still happens, RMA the card and get a new one. Oh and one more thing to try, Set your Graphics Arpiture size to 128, never know it might help.

07-23-2003, 09:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
Vanquish Insane Location: Truro, Nova Scotia	na the Radeon 9700 was the first to need a external power connector (well the voodoo 5 6000 was teh first, but we all know where that "little" fella is now)

07-23-2003, 09:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
ningato Upright	Update your motherboard bios and windows inf files

07-23-2003, 09:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
Laslow Upright	I have similar parts running on a cheap 300W PSU. Maybe your motherboard is the problem... =/

07-23-2003, 11:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
rocinante2003 Insane Location: Dallas	I think, as mentioned above your Mobos on the fritz

07-24-2003, 01:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
fitz7099 Upright	If you need more info/ideas read this thread http://www.motherboards.org/forums/v...ic.php?t=28288 Is there any way to check for damage that my motherboard may have sustained?