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Old 02-28-2010, 11:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Stuck on a certain page in multi-page threads

Today I'm noticing some very strange behavior on multi-page threads.

Take for instance a 3-page thread. I click the "last page" link (or the "3") and I get page two. I click the next-page link at the top or bottom of the page, and I get page... two. I click the "3" in the page link list at the top or bottom of the page... I get page... two. Nothing I can do will advance me to page three.

On very long threads, I'm sticking on a page somewhere in the middle. No clicking links makes any difference. I can't even rewrite the URL to contain a later page number--I hit that page, and redirect to my page I'm stuck on.

I've never seen this behavior before. It's very odd.


EDIT: A bit more research about this. I went to the Tilted Nonsense thread "Longest Thread Ever" and clicked the "last page" link from the topic list. I got page 533, which is nowhere NEAR the end of that thread (the posts on that page were from 2008). I can click the page number links BACK--getting to 532 was fine. But any link to a page AFTER 533 put me ON 533.

My webdev-senses are tingling about some mis-handling of the "last viewed page" feature. It's definitely redirecting me from later pages back to a specific page in the thread.

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Old 02-28-2010, 11:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"View new posts" broken

OK, it may not be broken for everyone. WK and Amonkie couldn't reproduce this when I brought it up in Chat. But, here's my problem...

I start my browsing by visiting the New Posts page.
On a long thread, I hit the "Go to first new post" button.
Instead of seeing a post from Saturday morning or later (I was on late Friday night), I'm at some arbitrary post in the past, at the top of that page.

For example, selecting the four most recent long threads:
Erotic Images that make you go...WOW - NSFW: 12/28/09
Make Love Not War Images (NSFW): 2/11/10
Pointless Announcements: 12/29/09
New Joss Whedon Show: Dollhouse: 5/15/2009

Worse, I can't get past that page on any of the threads. Hitting the 'next page' button leaves me on the current page. Hand-editing the URL to increase the page count also leaves me on the same page.

I even tried posting a new entry in the Pointless thread, and I can't see what I entered and I'm stuck on the same page as before.

I'm using Google Chrome Beta on Mac OS X 10.6.2. I tried using Safari and Firefox and had identical results. I deleted my TFP cookies to no avail.

Is this happening to anyone else? Any hints on what may have gone wrong for me?
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Ah, we cross-posted. Me too.
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Just tried Opera (the last browser on my system) and that also failed.
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Old 02-28-2010, 12:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Whew, I'm not insane.

I tried changing skins, just for fun. No help.

I'm also seeing this on Mac Chrome. I haven't tried any other browsers.
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Old 02-28-2010, 12:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It has to do with a new version of VBSEO I had to install. I'm still ironing out the configuration. Can you please post the exact link that you are using? I need to read it to see how it's parsing.
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Old 02-28-2010, 12:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The read new post link: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...-new-post.html

Where I end up: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...ml#post2762658
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Old 02-28-2010, 12:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It happens on every multi-page thread. Does red's sample serve you needs, Cyn, or would you like more?
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Old 02-28-2010, 01:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The read new post link: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-nonsense/148078-post-random-image-thread-nsfw-new-post.html

Where I end up: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-nonsense/148078-post-random-image-thread-nsfw-26.html#post2762658
So it's not supposed to go to the last post of the thread on page 26??

A few more would be helpful rat... thanks.

---------- Post added at 04:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:47 PM ----------

Hmmm, okay I make changes and they reflect immediately.

Flush your cache and see if it still happens.
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Old 02-28-2010, 01:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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No joy. I clicked on http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...-ever-711.html (which was the link behind the "last page" link from the title list in Tilted Nonsense)

I end up on: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...-ever-533.html

That's pretty much exactly the format of the thing. If I go up to the "533" part of that link and put in any number higher than "533", I end up on longest-thread-ever-533.html.

Red, do you get stuck on the same page of that thread that I do?
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Old 02-28-2010, 01:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
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No joy. I clicked on http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...-ever-711.html (which was the link behind the "last page" link from the title list in Tilted Nonsense)

I end up on: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...-ever-533.html

That's pretty much exactly the format of the thing. If I go up to the "533" part of that link and put in any number higher than "533", I end up on longest-thread-ever-533.html.

Red, do you get stuck on the same page of that thread that I do?
Yeah, I get 533 as well. And there's at least 633 pages, according to the page selector.

Another example:
link to latest post: url=http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=31741

result: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-nonsense/31741-little-something-flyman-40.html#post2762663

and there are at least 50 pages in that thread. It's interesting that I'm always at the top of the page, instead of a post midway down the thread.
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Old 02-28-2010, 01:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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No joy. I clicked on http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-nonsense/99777-longest-thread-ever-711.html (which was the link behind the "last page" link from the title list in Tilted Nonsense)

I end up on: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-nonsense/99777-longest-thread-ever-533.html

That's pretty much exactly the format of the thing. If I go up to the "533" part of that link and put in any number higher than "533", I end up on longest-thread-ever-533.html.

Red, do you get stuck on the same page of that thread that I do?
okay i changed the parsing so it should now be totally different the links above should no longer work. can you get to the pages from this layout?
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Old 02-28-2010, 01:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It's interesting that I'm always at the top of the page, instead of a post midway down the thread.
You're carrying an anchor (the "#post2762663" part of your URL) that doesn't exist on that page, so there's nowhere down the page to jump to. Presumably post 2762663 IS the most recent post and is on the last page of the thread, it's just that you're getting redirected to a different page.

Looking back, that paragraph was pure geekish. If it didn't make sense, then suffice to say, it's not really unexpected if you know how these things work.

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okay i changed the parsing so it should now be totally different the links above should no longer work. can you get to the pages from this layout?
Nope. No change in behavior at all.
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Old 02-28-2010, 01:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Made some additional changes based on their suggestions. Please let me know.
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okay i changed the parsing so it should now be totally different the links above should no longer work. can you get to the pages from this layout?
The old links still get me to where I was before.
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Looking back, that paragraph was pure geekish. If it didn't make sense, then suffice to say, it's not really unexpected if you know how these things work.
Made sense to me. I should have said 'anchor link', but I'm a few years out of HTML.
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Made some additional changes based on their suggestions. Please let me know.
Still the same for me.
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Old 02-28-2010, 02:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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okay after some good wrestling I'm going to have to call in the professionals for some assistance tomorrow.
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Old 02-28-2010, 03:29 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Better hurry--before long we won't be able to get to the current page of this thread!
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Old 02-28-2010, 03:32 PM   #19 (permalink)
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In the meantime, you can change your posts per page to 100 to reduce the impact of this bug
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Old 02-28-2010, 07:47 PM   #20 (permalink)
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tech question on the TFP?

when I clik on ... http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...read-nsfw.html ... and ... http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...-wow-nsfw.html ... It takes me to page 26 of 101 and page 8 of 29 respectively and I can go no father..I seem to be able to post a pic to the last page of each but I can not get there to see them..???

Is this clear to you,what is the problem and how do I fix it ..or can you guys fix it for me...pm me if you want.

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I just went to this ... http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...your-legs.html ... and could only get to page 2 of 5 and no futher?????

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every forum is that way...????? I can only get the first 1/4 or so of the pages ???

what's up???

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Yeah, we've got some issues that we're working on right now. If you go into your user cp and change the number of posts displayed per page to 100, that should help (but I'm not sure if it will totally fix it). I'm also merging this with an existing thread on the issue in Tilted Support, so look for updates there
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just went to TFPez and could get to the end of all the long forum posts...strange...xoxoxoo
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Yeah, TFP-EZ is technically a separate forum now, so changes made to one do not affect the other.
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:18 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I've got a ticket in to get some help.
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Can you guys tell me if the issue is resolved?
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Old 03-01-2010, 12:16 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I switched to 100 per page and it seems to work,but takes forever to load 100 replys and all the associated stuff

I will go back to 10 per page and see what's up...


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Old 03-01-2010, 02:27 PM   #28 (permalink)
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still working on it.
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Please let me know if this is still an issue. I cannot replicate the issue nor can the support guy helping me.

I did however roll back a version so let's see if that helps.
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The new posts view has also been screwed up ever since this issue started to show up.

As for the page issue, it seems as though the software was confused about how many pages there were, not that people weren't able to access all the pages. I changed my posts per page to the forum default and I'm no longer seeing this issue. In fact, when I go to the last page of the threads listed as examples here, I'm taken to the page that was supposedly the mistake page. So, it seems that the later pages people were attempting to reach just plain didn't exist in the first place.
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I think the issue is resolved for me....
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Yep, resolved for me too.

Smeth, I don't think it was the reported number of pages that was in error, because the latest posts I could get to in some VERY active threads were dated 2008. I KNOW there were posts after that, I just couldn't get to the page that contained them.
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Thanks for the fix, Cyn, sorry we gave you more work to do.
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you have no idea how much more work but it's my pleasure to do it and figure it out.
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sorry to bother you. but do I have to clear my cache to see these changes? when I reply to a thread, or start a new one, I don't see them in the New Posts. until someone else replies after me.
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sorry to bother you. but do I have to clear my cache to see these changes? when I reply to a thread, or start a new one, I don't see them in the New Posts. until someone else replies after me.
I'm seeing this as well. I think New Posts excludes any thread you have finished, and since you posted, it figures you read it. It's a bit disconcerting, but I could get used to it.
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Unfortunately the new posts issue hasn't been worked out yet. What was fixed is the ability to access the last page in multi-page threads.
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Actually, I think I'm seeing something more interesting with New Posts.

Previously, if I stopped browsing at 3 pm, and came back an hour later, new New Posts would go back to 3 pm only.

Now, it seems that New Posts go back a long time, and if I hit the New Post button on an old thread that I haven't been following, it puts me back to 2/21, which I'm guessing is the "beginning of time" for the new functionality.

If that's true, I love it. I get that paranoia if I've been offline for too long, because I won't have time to catch up on all of the threads. This way, my "last read" place seems to be bookmarked in all threads. I can't imagine what sort of impact that has on the database.

Or I'm just hallucinating.
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