Tilted Sexuality = New Titty Board?

[cj2112]

I don't really want to step on anybody's toes here, I really don't. I have been noticing a lot of threads in Tilted Sexuality that seem to really belong on the Titty Board. I LOVE women, I enjoy porn every bit as much as the next guy, hell maybe even more, but we have a place for that. I don't see much discussion coming from these threads. Personally, I love a couple of the threads, I just dunno if they belong where they are...

Do you think they belong in Tilted Sexuality, or on the Titty Board?

[The_Jazz]

I like this thread, CJ. We've actually discussed it with the staff, and I'll be happy to share the same opinion that I shared back behind the curtain:

Originally Posted by The_Jazz

I've been thinking about that, and I think I'm in "whatever" mode. As in, TFP is whatever folks want to make it. I'm ok with a small number of threads with this sort of thing, and I'd rather have folks participating than not. They might stumble into other threads and bump them or add something interesting than if they were over that EZ exclusively.

It could be a problem in the future, but it isn't right now. At least in my opinion.

If there are problems, let us know.

[cj2112]

While I'm inclined to agree w/ the above statement, wasn't that whole purpose of keeping the EZ as part of TFP's main board? Come for "teh bewbeez" stay for the discussion?

I don't see it so much as a problem, as inconsistent w/ what I thought was the vision for TFP. Maybe I misunderstood?

[Plan9]

Staff: Fix the poll. It reads like crap.

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Everybody knows my opinion: Keep all the porn on Tilted Porn. I don't come to TFP to get turned on.

I come to TFP to find my wallet. My wallet. Y'know, the one that says BAD MOTHERFUCKER on it.

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Seriously, though... I'm really tired of "erotic image" threads. It's just porn. It's NSFW to the extreme. Duh.

If nothing else, the whole dead horse debate over the porn was left largely unresolved in application of rules.

What was the point of the whole domain name thing if we're still basically doing the same thing here?

One of the big points was that most Tilted Porn types don't even bother posting in conversational threads.

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Somebody please enlighten me as to why it's so fun to post sex pictures you think are hot for others to judge.

I mean, I'd do it but I get the feeling it would turn me into just another Internet perv. A fate worse than death.

[sbscout]

I guess I understand what you're saying CJ. The only thing I can think to go against your line of thought is that some may not post the NSFW pics on Titty Board. Is that a big loss? Not really.

My vote? Meh... put them on the TB

[Craven Morehead]

A third option is I don't care, which I don't.

I find it odd that the reasons for moving the Titty Board to a separate forum do not apply to essentially the same content that is currently posted elsewhere on TFP, however it doesn't bother me that those posts exist. It did not bother before the Titty Board was moved. If TFP is cleansed of teh pr0n, I'll visit EZ as I do now. But if the reasons for moving the Titty Board were of value and the desired effect was achieved, then why allow that content to continue to be posted on TFP?

[ralphie250]

my personal opnion is that i know if it says *nsfw* thats what it is. some things belong in the titty board and others dont.
thats my opnion

[Plan9]

Originally Posted by Craven Morehead

...if the reasons for moving the Titty Board were of value and the desired effect was achieved, then why allow that content to continue to be posted on TFP?

This.

[Lindy]

Originally Posted by cj2112

....I don't see much discussion coming from these threads. Personally, I love a couple of the threads, I just dunno if they belong where they are...
Do you think they belong in Tilted Sexuality, or on the Titty Board?

If that's the rationale, I don't see much discussion coming from "AUTOS" or "Food as Art" either, which, though not erotic, are just pretty picture shows with little or no discussion.

Originally Posted by sbscout

I guess I understand what you're saying CJ. The only thing I can think to go against your line of thought is that some may not post the NSFW pics on Titty Board. Is that a big loss? Not really.

My vote? Meh... put them on the TB

I agree scout, and would, if it were my choice, put the "Erotic Images that..." thread on the Titty Board. But I also agree with Craven, in that I really don't care very much one way or the other. I do think that erotic images are more meant to be looked at and appreciated than discussed.

Actually, porn, its societal and psychosexual effects, etc., is, I think, more likely to lead to a worthwhile discussion.

Lindy

[Shauk]

My account doesn't even work on the tittyboard so I can't really care either way. I think it's banned or something.

[The_Jazz]

Originally Posted by Shauk

My account doesn't even work on the tittyboard so I can't really care either way. I think it's banned or something.

Try reregistering over there, Shauk. If you have problems, PM me.

[jewels]

I'm on the fence. I'm not sure if it comes down to hardcore vs erotica or a way to draw lines. There will always be threads which will, for some reason or other, contain photos of nudity or sexuality. Is TFP beyond the point that the TB is needed to attract new members? Are there any numbers that give us some sort of TB viewer converts to TFP poster ratios?

Is the objection about separating the Porn Seekers from those seeking active discussion, is it related to spam attacks, or in another way related to the traffic flow? I'm still not clear on why we should or shouldn't move it. Maybe a better understanding of the pros and cons might help those of us who haven't yet given an opinion.

[mixedmedia]

As one of those guilty of starting an image thread in the sexuality forum, I would have to say that I understand the rationale behind this question, but it kind of glosses over the significant difference between the current sexuality image threads and the titty board.

#1 the entire idea of the sexuality threads is different in that it is more of a community, collage, collaboration thing, rather than a 'look at this set of 50 pictures I downloaded last night of this Hegre chick' thing. i don't see how people sharing images they like in a collective fashion is that different from people sharing favorite oral sex techniques in a collective fashion

#2 collaborative threads would never work on the titty board, that's not what it's for

#3 there's an entirely different set of people over there with an entirely different aesthetic

they are different. the two places, I mean.

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plus, come on, let's get real.

when I log on here in the morning, these threads and pointless announcements are often the only ones that have been updated in my user control panel. why delete threads that are active when it's obvious that we're in a bit of a slump as far as activity goes?

[cj2112]

Awesome mm. Seriously, you brought some points I had not ever even considered. I have a new perspective on those threads, one I didn't know existed. Thank you!

[dlish]

CJ, ive added another option to the poll. seeing that some people are neither here nor there, ive added the Meh! option for those that dont care if it stays or goes either way.

[MeltedMetalGlob]

I voted for them to stay, if only for the reason being that being a new member, I would hate to lose threads I was enjoying.

[noodle]

I really feel like there is a difference between the TB porn and the image threads in the Sexuality forum.
For example, Lucifer specifically stated "no nipples", etc.
Posting erotic images or tattoos is different to me than full-frontal suck and fuck shots.
I appreciate images of the human body and most of the image threads are focused more on art or what individuals find attractive, appealing, sexy, whatever. I don't mind them.
If I'm not interested, I don't open the thread.

[yournamehere]

Originally Posted by mixedmedia

#3 there's an entirely different set of people over there with an entirely different aesthetic

they are different. the two places, I mean.

Perhaps now, but back in the genesis of TFP, a great majority of members found their way here only because TFP was the #1 Boobies Link on Fark.com for a few years.
Without the Titty Board of 2001, there would be no TFP of 2011.

Now, we could be having a conversation debating whether separating the two represents hypocrisy or evolution; or a bit of both. But let's not - I agree with what The_Jazz said - "TFP is whatever folks want to make it." But if you want to separate the two, where do you draw the line? 100 people will have 100 different opinions.

Personally, I don't have a problem separating the two, and I don't care where the line gets drawn by whomever. I don't come here for the porn anymore, anyway - there are a lot of better sites for that. The EZ is fine for occasionally viewing some pics without downloading files to your computer (except for the temporary internet files folder if you use IE). But if I'm looking for porn, I usually go to forums with links to file hosting sites for videos I can download. The resolution is much better than the embedded stuff in the EZ or sites like Redtube; and I can download or delete at will.

So, I guess my vote is "Meh."

[Redlemon]

Originally Posted by noodle

I really feel like there is a difference between the TB porn and the image threads in the Sexuality forum.
For example, Lucifer specifically stated "no nipples", etc.
Posting erotic images or tattoos is different to me than full-frontal suck and fuck shots.
I appreciate images of the human body and most of the image threads are focused more on art or what individuals find attractive, appealing, sexy, whatever. I don't mind them.
If I'm not interested, I don't open the thread.

I agree with you; however, it seems many people ignore the first post and just throw images up. Lucifer's "side boob" thread specified no nipples, but there are plenty of nipples in the thread, and the photos seem to be anything that isn't a full frontal shot. Similarly, the "erotic picture" thread requests that people explain why they find their selected images erotic, but that hasn't happened for pages and pages.

To sum up, I would enjoy the threads more if they stayed on topic; since they don't, I voted "meh".

[mixedmedia]

to be clear, I don't think Lucifer specified no nipples...that was mentioned by someone else later on...

[StanT]

Meh,

I understood the reasoning between splitting the two to be a matter of Paypal acceptance. I appreciate being able to avoid nsfw material at work, the mechanics are irrelevant to me.

Boobs and nipples come in a wonderful variety of shapes and sizes. "Side boob, no nipple" isn't going to be possible for everyone.

[Redlemon]

Originally Posted by mixedmedia

to be clear, I don't think Lucifer specified no nipples...that was mentioned by someone else later on...

It is right in the first post, before the first picture:

Originally Posted by Lucifer

I was going to post this in random vintage smut, but then I thought, "hey, I like side-boob, and I bet a lot of others here do too!" So post 'em all here: No front (or 3/4 views) of nipples, no belly, butt or bush, if you please.

So, in fact, edges of nipples are allowed, but many of the posted nipples don't match the OP. Plus, plenty of butt and bush posted.

[genuinegirly]

Mixedmedia <-- what she said. It belongs where it is, the dynamic is different on the other side, and the content would not be treated in the same fashion.

Redlemon, perhaps I misunderstand your perspective. Are you suggesting that these threads should have some form of curatory presence, auditing content and checking for applicability?

I'm a fan of conversation progressing naturally as the participants see fit. A new person can join in the thread at any time and it will take on a new spin. I view it as a bit of an organic system, breathing, shifting, changing... evolving if you will. Note that evolution does not always equate with better or progress, it simply is. And that is where I find the beauty.

[Redlemon]

Originally Posted by genuinegirly

Redlemon, perhaps I misunderstand your perspective. Are you suggesting that these threads should have some form of curatory presence, auditing content and checking for applicability?

I'm a fan of conversation progressing naturally as the participants see fit. A new person can join in the thread at any time and it will take on a new spin. I view it as a bit of an organic system, breathing, shifting, changing... evolving if you will. Note that evolution does not always equate with better or progress, it simply is. And that is where I find the beauty.

I'm... not sure, to be perfectly honest. I certainly appreciate the evolution of a thread. And I think the idea of curation is probably a bit extreme, especially for a thread in the Fun Zone. However, many of the pic threads devolve rather than evolve.

[monkeysugar]

I'm more of a longtime lurker, occasional poster than anything, but I've been around the TFP for quite some time/several versions so take take my opinion for however you take it. The current goal/vision in the last few years, at least as I understand it, has been towards a discussion based forum, not a link/media dump. Real content, real discussions, advice, etc., with plenty of opportunities to have a lot of fun. There is something for pretty much everyone here. There are areas for exhibition, and I am all about picture threads in that sub-section. That's kinda what that section is all about. Porn is what originally brought a lot of people here, myself included. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. As far as I'm concerned, the EZ is a seperate area now, but *not really* in the greater scheme of things. I kind of like having the majority of the forums being safe for work, and if I want to see some naked people, there are places I can go for that. While the "post a picture" threads do generate a lot of posts and traffic, it seems to be mostly by a fairly small handful of people, and there really isn't much discussion going on. It's contribution, and it's more than I feel that I contribute. I'm not condemning it by any means, but I guess it just seems like a lot of posting for the sake of posting, and while it's content, it's bandwidth intensive content without much/any discussion taking place. The vast majority of these type of threads, I honestly would much rather see in the EZ than opening up a specific sub-forum of something I am interested in, only to see that the majority of the new activity in that thread pertains to erotica loosely related to the overall theme. I'd just prefer to see the discussion areas for discussion and the titty board, etc. for titties, etc.

[telekinetic]

So we have a cameltoe thread now.

The slope: it is slippery.