04-20-2004, 06:30 AM | #1 (permalink) |
Psycho
Location: Broken Arrow, OK
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williams and clarett can't go.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/d...ory?id=1785560
So all you clarett haters have nothing to worry about. Looks like he is staying put for awhile. Do you think that Ohio State is going to try and get him back? You know USC will try and get williams back. I am just glad too see this will not effect college football, for the worse. |
04-20-2004, 09:04 AM | #3 (permalink) |
Baltimoron
Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD
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I've heard stuff about tghe leage talking to the NCAA about letting all these players have their eligibility back since they declared for the draft with the idea they would be allowed to participate. Remember it isn't just those two; there are a bunch of high-school kids who declared that I'm sure would accept their college eligibility back if given.
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04-20-2004, 11:36 AM | #5 (permalink) |
you can't see me
Location: Illinois
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If I had to guess, I would say the high school kids that declared for the draft weren't planning on going to college anyway, so they are doubly screwed. Williams will be fine, USC will get him back. Can Clarett just not play anywhere for another year, continue his own personal rigorous workout routine , and then declare for the draft next year?
Do you have to play somewhere for x number of years, or just be out of high school for x number of years? How will this affect the draft plans of teams? I know Clarett wasn't expected to go very high, but wasn't Williams being projected as a first round pick at one point?
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04-20-2004, 11:54 AM | #6 (permalink) |
Psycho
Location: Broken Arrow, OK
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williams was propably going to go pretty high, but I never heard of any highschoolers declaring themselves.
3 years out of highschool is what they keep saying, nothing about 3 years of college
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04-20-2004, 12:22 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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Quarterback John Belisle of Capac Community High School in Capac, Mich.; running back Ken Petitt of Redford High School in Detroit; Joe Banks, a running back from New Directions Academy High School in Baltimore; defensive tackle Earl Fields of Appling County High School in Baxley, Ga.; wide receiver Joe Lee of Gates High School in Tacoma, Wash.; running back Ethan Mitchell of Flowers High School in Springdale, Md.; and Ronnie McCrae, a defensive back from Pasadena City College in California.
http://mb1.theinsiders.com/fcoltsnew...icID=878.topic
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04-20-2004, 09:45 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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Location: Southern California
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Ok - New Directions High School? I bet this guy chose between JuCo and the NFL? I agree that not too many of these guys actually planned on going to college. They choose "declaring" for the NFL draft over being a baggage handler at Southwest. They chose the ability to be invited to an open tryout and see what happens.
That being said, how exactally would a supplemental draft work? Can anyone provide a link with the details? Lets just say that the NFL loses which will not happen. There are two players of consequence (maybe one really in Williams) the rest of the draft does not really matter for prospects that certainly COULD turn out to something but amount to non-roster invitees. That being said - there is no draft. There are two picks and then a whole bunch of pics that are meaningless. The agreement is that the NFL would hold a supplimental draft 10 days after the court case for these two should they lose to prevent damage to them by not being in the draft. Do the Chargers get the first pick in that draft too? Do they give up anything by using that pick? Who is compensated if they DO give up anything? As I understand it, teams can "pass" in the suplimental draft as often as they like. (I do not know if this is fact or not). So as I imagine it, if all the first round teams "pass" on picking then they don't have to give up a first round pick. If no one picks until the third round, then they only have to give up a third round pick in the next year's draft. But if they "Give up" a pick, who the heck does it even go to? Can you imagine if the stupid ass Chargers got Eli Manning and Mike Williams in the same draft? Crazy shit. Someone please clear this up.
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04-21-2004, 07:35 AM | #10 (permalink) |
Baltimoron
Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD
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Basically, in a supplemental draft, to draft a player in each round, you give your pick in the same round in next year's main draft. So, if the Chargers select Mike Williams in the first round, they lose their first round pick next year. As an example, the Texans selected RB Tony Hollings in last year's supplemental draft in the second round, and they lost a second-rounder this year.
The only really famous player to be picked in one was Bernie Kosar by the Browns. Here's another explanation...http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...ge=21667&post=
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04-21-2004, 06:23 PM | #11 (permalink) |
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Sweet - thanks DJ testudo. The only thing I still don't get is where the pick goes when you forfit it. Is there just one less pick that round?
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04-22-2004, 11:02 AM | #13 (permalink) |
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espn reporting archie manning has told san diego his kid eli won't play there...
i can hear it now where ever he goes... "do you have your dad's permission to to play today?" or is it a rumor by the chargers to get their fans thinking, "he didn't want to play here so i don't blame schottenheimer for not taking him." |
04-22-2004, 11:03 AM | #14 (permalink) |
Baltimoron
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1787651
Supreme Court turnes down emergancy appeal. They're OUT.
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04-22-2004, 11:51 AM | #17 (permalink) |
Baltimoron
Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD
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I just saw that today.
There was someone else too, but I can't remember.
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