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ataylor20 · 07-25-2003, 05:52 AM

Hey,

Well last years season was my first season to play FF. I really enjoyed it. Im curious what everyone does for the following season as far as order of draft and Franschise players.

As far as for the #1 team, I get no perks for being #1 this season yet the last place person does and he didnt even play last season.. Weird how that works..

We had eight teams and the last place team was originally suppose to get first pick, well that person didnt play this year and so his replacement gets his first pick?!? I dont think thats totally fair since he didnt play the following year..
What are you thoughts...

AT

MikeyChalupa · 07-25-2003, 06:01 AM

Is this a keeper league? If so, the new guy should get to draft first if he's taking over last season's last place team. It's the *TEAM* that earned the last place finish and therefore the first place pick. Imagine if the owner of the Cincinnati Bengals fired the GM and then sold the team during the offseason. The Bengals would STILL get the first pick in the draft.

Now, if this is NOT a keeper league, and you all start over from scratch, with completely new rosters, then yes, the new guy shouldn't be getting the perk he didn't earn. Everybody moves up a notch and he goes to the bottom. But if you're doing it that way, really you should have a different method of determining draft order.

And as far as your perk goes, it's bragging rights for a year. You should be drafting last.

-Mikey

ataylor20 · 07-25-2003, 07:32 AM

It is a keeper league.. He gets to keep a person on the previous years team. (Marv Harrison) Fuker... And gets first pick.. But I agree I should get last pick! That way I would get 8th and 9th pick..

Agree? or not..

MikeyChalupa · 07-25-2003, 08:35 AM

So wait... you're NOT keeping the entire roster intact (minus retirees) just starting your draft with a roster of one player of your choice from last year's team and then re-drafting entire new teams?

If that's the case, I've never heard of a league working that way. Sounds interesting. It falls kind of into a grey area then, since there's elements of a true keeper league and elements of starting from scratch.

In a true keeper league, last year's week 17 roster is this year's week 1 roster, minus retirees and any free agent moves or trades you make according to league rules. The draft order at the start of the next season, which is for incoming rookie players only, goes in the reverse order of final standings, and doesn't double back on itself. In other words, it goes 1234567812345678 and not 1234567887654321. Basically, this is more or less the way the real NFL works.

In a start from scratch league, ALL NFL players are completely re-distributed via a draft at the start of each season, and chosen randomly by whatever method, and then doubles back. This is how Yahoo does it.

It seems like you are playing a hybrid of these two systems. Imagine if each team in the NFL, after each season, released every player on their roster but one. Then, the GM's stood on a field in front of all the players and picked teams like on a schoolyard. But, they chose to do it in the order of last year's finish. The whole point of the best team getting last pick and vice versa is to try to achieve parity, in other words theoretically the shittiest team gets first crack at the top rookies. The best team doesn't need the top rookies, it has good veterans. To then award the first pick based on a roster that will be totally different than last year's doesn't make sense under the reason the draft exists the way it does. SO the way you are doing it is different. It's not right or wrong, just different, and if I understand you, it's what you're doing. In which case, what you want to do with your draft order is up to you guys, but it would make more sense and seem more fair to just determine your draft order randomly, since you have a new owner who was not even responsible for that team last year.

-Mikey

ataylor20 · 07-25-2003, 12:50 PM

You've got it.. So I kinda agree.. I think we should draft in reverse of last years standings.. That would make since.. But then again the way we draft the 8th and 9th pick are buy the last person.

Anyway.. Im going to kickass not matter what draft order.. I have to choose between Garcia, Moulds, A. Green as my keeper. And I have 3rd pick..

Thanks for the input..

AT

07-25-2003, 05:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
ataylor20 Insane	Fantasy Football purks for being #1 Hey, Well last years season was my first season to play FF. I really enjoyed it. Im curious what everyone does for the following season as far as order of draft and Franschise players. As far as for the #1 team, I get no perks for being #1 this season yet the last place person does and he didnt even play last season.. Weird how that works.. We had eight teams and the last place team was originally suppose to get first pick, well that person didnt play this year and so his replacement gets his first pick?!? I dont think thats totally fair since he didnt play the following year.. What are you thoughts... AT

07-25-2003, 07:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
ataylor20 Insane	It is a keeper league.. He gets to keep a person on the previous years team. (Marv Harrison) Fuker... And gets first pick.. But I agree I should get last pick! That way I would get 8th and 9th pick.. Agree? or not.. __________________ I'd bend her over... How about You?

07-25-2003, 06:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
MikeyChalupa Squid Location: USS George Washington	Is this a keeper league? If so, the new guy should get to draft first if he's taking over last season's last place team. It's the TEAM that earned the last place finish and therefore the first place pick. Imagine if the owner of the Cincinnati Bengals fired the GM and then sold the team during the offseason. The Bengals would STILL get the first pick in the draft. Now, if this is NOT a keeper league, and you all start over from scratch, with completely new rosters, then yes, the new guy shouldn't be getting the perk he didn't earn. Everybody moves up a notch and he goes to the bottom. But if you're doing it that way, really you should have a different method of determining draft order. And as far as your perk goes, it's bragging rights for a year. You should be drafting last. -Mikey

07-25-2003, 08:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
MikeyChalupa Squid Location: USS George Washington	So wait... you're NOT keeping the entire roster intact (minus retirees) just starting your draft with a roster of one player of your choice from last year's team and then re-drafting entire new teams? If that's the case, I've never heard of a league working that way. Sounds interesting. It falls kind of into a grey area then, since there's elements of a true keeper league and elements of starting from scratch. In a true keeper league, last year's week 17 roster is this year's week 1 roster, minus retirees and any free agent moves or trades you make according to league rules. The draft order at the start of the next season, which is for incoming rookie players only, goes in the reverse order of final standings, and doesn't double back on itself. In other words, it goes 1234567812345678 and not 1234567887654321. Basically, this is more or less the way the real NFL works. In a start from scratch league, ALL NFL players are completely re-distributed via a draft at the start of each season, and chosen randomly by whatever method, and then doubles back. This is how Yahoo does it. It seems like you are playing a hybrid of these two systems. Imagine if each team in the NFL, after each season, released every player on their roster but one. Then, the GM's stood on a field in front of all the players and picked teams like on a schoolyard. But, they chose to do it in the order of last year's finish. The whole point of the best team getting last pick and vice versa is to try to achieve parity, in other words theoretically the shittiest team gets first crack at the top rookies. The best team doesn't need the top rookies, it has good veterans. To then award the first pick based on a roster that will be totally different than last year's doesn't make sense under the reason the draft exists the way it does. SO the way you are doing it is different. It's not right or wrong, just different, and if I understand you, it's what you're doing. In which case, what you want to do with your draft order is up to you guys, but it would make more sense and seem more fair to just determine your draft order randomly, since you have a new owner who was not even responsible for that team last year. -Mikey

07-25-2003, 12:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
ataylor20 Insane	You've got it.. So I kinda agree.. I think we should draft in reverse of last years standings.. That would make since.. But then again the way we draft the 8th and 9th pick are buy the last person. Anyway.. Im going to kickass not matter what draft order.. I have to choose between Garcia, Moulds, A. Green as my keeper. And I have 3rd pick.. Thanks for the input.. AT