Very true, personally I enjoy fighting in hockey(as if everyone didn't already know), most likely because it was what I did most near the end of my playing days, the old Jr. B and Jr. A times were the best time though when I was 15-19 years old, line brawls, jumping into other teams benches, punching fans who want to get too close to mouth off, oh the good ole days.....

We know what kinda of champions the UFC has. Right here. Alongside Brock we have one of the most dominant lightweights of all time, two of the most dominant champions in MMA history, potentially one of the most dominant LHWs. These are the CHAMPIONS (multiple) of the UFC.

a current interview with a former boxing champ.


a current interview with a former mma champ.

you tell me. which seems brain damaged? which seems to have been more subjected to "barbarism"?

boxing is predominantly about punching each other in the head. it's professionals lead broken lives riddled with psychological and neurological problems. MMA fighters, not so much, because half the time they lost the "cowardly" way on the ground or with an arm bar.

SF's constant stream of rhetoric hasn't shown any more in this thread than the one i previously started. If 2 fighters agree to a set of rules that include ground fighting, 1) it's not cowardly and 2) it adds variety and entertainment to a fight.It's kinda cool SF is so nostalgic for the good ol' days and so caught up in ancient history for a younger person, but if he's trying to convince mma fans of joining him in his hate for it, he's doing a piss poor job. that IS your ultimate goal isn't it, SF? i can't think of why else you'd continue the rhetoric after mma has been officially defined as a sport.

MMA is chess to boxing's checkers. It's dented both boxing and wrestlings success and will continue to carve into both of them, because of both it's legitimacy and it's entertainment value.

i see a lot of SF's protestations akin to an Indian Hindu in Los Angeles protesting in front of a Burger King what horrible meat beef is to eat.

barbarism is putting it nicely for mike tyson.

MMA, as it stands now, is shorter lived career wise. The punch counts are lower, bare(ish) knuckles do more surface damage but not as much brain damage in the long term. They don't call it MMA Parkinson's for a reason.

Sometimes Tyson could be pretty insightful

"The one thing I know, everyone respects the true person and everyone's not true with themselves. All of these people who are heroes, these guys who have been lily white and clean all their lives, if they went through what I went through, they would commit suicide. They don't have the heart that I have. I've lived places they can't defecate in."

"I'm the most irresponsible person in the world. The reason I'm like that is because, at 21, you all gave me $50 or $100 million, and I didn't know what to do. I'm from the ghetto. I don't know how to act. One day I'm in a dope house robbing somebody. The next thing I know, 'You're the heavyweight champion of the world.' ... Who am I? What am I? I don't even know who I am. I'm just a dumb child. I'm being abused. I'm being robbed by lawyers. I think I have more money than I do. I'm just a dumb pugnacious fool. I'm just a fool who thinks I'm someone. And you tell me I should be responsible?"

"I'm just a dark guy from a den of iniquity. A dark shadowy figure from the bowels of iniquity. I wish I could be Mike who gets an endorsement deal. But you can't make a lie and a truth go together. This country wasn't built on moral fiber. This country was built on rape, slavery, murder, degradation and affiliation with crime."

"I never saw my mother happy with me and proud of me for doing something: She only knew me as being a wild kid running the streets, coming home with new clothes that she knew I didn't pay for. I never got a chance to talk to her or know about her. Professionally, it has no effect, but it's crushing emotionally and personally."