perripken

I'm thinking the Rockies look too strong! I'm just glad the Spankee's are gone.
DJTestudo, here's to hoping Angelos kicks the bucket soon! Wouldn't it be great to see Cal buy the team?

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Last nights game is the one I figured the Sox would lose. Matsusaka has definately not been a great return of investment. Westbrook pitched the game of his life, although I do have to fault the Sox hitters for being so impatient and not laying off the sinker. They have been patient all year and then last night they try to go all aggressive.

The Sox bats are quiet but I have a feeling they'll get going again tonight. Wakefield will hopefully have a good outing and then of course it's back to Beckett.. and I'll go ahead and count that as a win

So far the Indians have impressed me with not fading out and staying tough, but I still see my Sox taking the series.

pan6467

Think you misread I said the ROX not the Sox. The Rockies built from within, as did the D'Backs (mostly, they did try to get Big Unit for a last hurrah).

I think it says something about baseball's pay structure being outrageous and full of shit when 3 of the last 4 teams built from within and the highest team salary of those 3 was sported by the Indians at 61 mill. The Indians play knowing no one player can win or lose the game for them. They play as a team, no one is more "important" than another and they don't have the big salary egos. They don't have a Manny demanding trades and making news by "Manny being Manny". They don't have A-Rod and Jeter causing division in the clubhouse, or an owner that goes out and breaks the bank for a guy who needed to seriously stay retired. They don't have a aging hurt team that has no heart like the Angels with Colon, Guerrero, Anderson... a one year wonder like Matthews Jr. etc. Look at the Mets, Pedro (did he even throw a pitch this season?), Beltran and Delgado neither hits like they used to and neither works hard enough or plays well enough to deserve their paychecks.

The list and teams go on. Meanwhile, again 3 teams built themselves right. Had some losing seasons, took some hits but 2 of the 3 are going to be playoff staples for a long time.... the Rox... I still think they are playing above their level. Regardless of what people may say, their pitching isn't that strong.

AW well, I'll enjoy the Tribe's run wherever it may lead, meanwhile, I'll think about all the teams with all the overpaid "superstars" that are sitting home and I'll wonder how many of those collecting the big checks even care that they aren't playing in October.

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My bad.

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kutulu

The Rox's pitching isn't that bad. If you are looking at Julio, Dessens, and Fogg you are looking at the wrong ones. Fogg is the 4th pitcher on the team. Francis is a quality pitcher, Jimenez is a flamethrower, and Morales has great stuff.

Obviously, they are playing over their heads. They haven't lost in a month. No team's true talent level is that high. I want them to get owned in the World Series. The whole series was bullshit. The Rockies seemed to get the craziest breaks. Lucky bloop hits, perfect defensive positioning. Our team OPS was 50 points higher than theirs yet we lost all four games. We hit balls hard most of the time and they were always right there.

djtestudo

Cal's never going to buy the team. He might go in as a part owner with some other local billionaire and actually run the team, but he doesn't have that kind of money.

It would be nice to get new ownership though, even if I wouldn't wish death on someone just for being the owner of a baseball team (and, of course, I'm not exactly on the Peter-Angelos-Is-The-Anti-Christ-If-The-Anti-Christ-Was-The-Marquis-De-Sade bandwagon, either...)

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Kadath

I feel confident the Indians can win this series.

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pan6467

Never know you might get Chuck Dolan since he couldn't buy the BloSux.

BTW

CLEVELAND ROCKS CLEVELAND ROCKS CLEVELAND ROCKS CLEVELAND ROCKS


NOT IN OUR HOUSE

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Glory's Sun

Cleveland has been playing well that's for sure. I'll admit it. They've outplayed the Sox so completely I'm almost disgusted.

However, momentum is about to change tonight as Beckett takes the mound and we'll head back to Fenway. If this series gets to game 7, it's Boston going to the series.

Destrox

And that is the spirit you need to be a fan of baseball.

While, I feel you are completely wrong.

The rain has been mild to zilch today too in the area, so game on!

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QuasiMondo

The Joe Torre era has come to an end in the Bronx. ESPN is reporting that Torre turned down a one year offer for $5 million with incentives that could've topped out at $8 million. A search for a new skipper is underway with either bench coach Don Mattingly or broadcaster Joe Giradi expected to be named as Torre's replacement. Torre was in the final season of a 3-year, $19.2 million contract.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3069115

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good! Now I'm confident the skanks will suck for years to come.

djtestudo

C'mon Girardi! Baltimore needs all the help to contend we can get!

Seriously, he's going to end up not talking to the media by May, have Hughes, Wang, and Chamberlain visiting Dr. James Andrews by July, and kill Hal or Hank or Harry or Hoss or some other "H" Steinbrenner by October.

It's going to be the train wreck of train wrecks!

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pan6467

I have never been a Beckett fan, but he earned his money this series and I am truly impressed with his style. Great job, kid.

As for CC, if I were Shapiro, I'd make a take it or leave it offer and see what happens. CC doesn't take it, trade him. He's a free agent after next season, while he is strong this series has pretty much proven to me that he will never be a #1 and will never be a clutch pitcher. (I am sure that is not a popular opinion in Cleveland. I just hope if we do keep him, he didn't blow his arm out or have some psyche issues now. I've seen too many great arms blowout after choking in the playoffs and World Series.

This game shows that Wedge can trust his guys too long. CC should have been pulled at the end of 5. He shouldn't have gone into the 6th and NEVER should have touched a ball in the 7th.

So we go to Game 6, it is still Cleveland's to lose. Nothing has been easy for them this season, why should this series be any different. I still say whichever team gets out of this the winner, I see them sweeping Colorado. On the other hand, the team could be too beaten by the end.

No matter what this has been the most exciting series this postseason.

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Beckett.. .. goddamn. You just can't say enough about the kid. It's almost like watching history in the making every time he pitches in the postseason.

Sure, it's still Cleveland's series to lose, but lose they shall. *IF* Schill has a decent game and last night was any indicator of the bats coming back alive for Boston. I'd agree that whoever comes out of the AL should destroy the Rox, but then, the Rox shouldn't have even made the playoffs so who knows what will happen.

Beckett for Cy Young. No doubt in my mind.

Kadath

You might be just the slightest bit biased.

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Or I might just not be turning a blind eye to the fucking pathetic pitching of C.C. and Carmona in the ALCS.

Game 7 here we come.

pan6467

What 23 runs in 16 innings from our top 2 starting pitchers? PATHETIC.

Travis Hafner having a .130 batting average and striking out some 11-12 times? PATHETIC

To go 7 games with the above says something about our team. The way we played tonight though, we played like we didn't deserve to be there. The last time I felt that way was in '99 when the Sox crushed us badly.

We need to show something tomorrow. If they don't win, fine but at least play like you want to.

Hopefully, this team gets their shit together and pulls a win out their ass. Westbrook needs to show us he can be the anchor.

Then we go into the WS and we move the rotation around slightly.

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The fact that this went 7 does say something about your team. It says that the Red Sox looked like shit in games 2, 3, and 4. Now we're looking like the team we are.

When I saw how the Sox came out tonight, I knew we would win. They looked like they wanted it and had something to prove. They looked good, while the Tribe looked like a minor league club. I mean..holy fucking shit.. you hit a guy in the head with the ball when he's in a pickle?? WTF?? I laughed for 10 minutes.

This has been a great series that's for sure. Of course I'm worried about Matsusaka pitching tomorrow night, but we have Lester and probably Beckett that can come out of the bullpen. If it's tight and you see the big Texan with Beckett on his jersey stand up in the pen.. Indians might as well go ahead and pack their shit. They can't touch him.

Speaking of bullpens, it seems to me like Wedge was a little silly in his use of the pen tonight. I think it may just come back to haunt him.

Again, this has been the best series out of the entire postseason.. and whoever comes out on top should win the WS... unless they beat up their pens too badly.

Kadath

Is that like when Ortiz got hit by the grounder during baserunning and was out? Or when Youk bobbled an easy pop foul? Both teams have had their moments of inadequacy this series, but it has been a great series, and we'll see what happens tonight.

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baserunners get hit with groundballs all the time. We'll see what happens tonight yes.. and I have a feeling it will be the Sox celebrating on the field

Glory's Sun

Game 7 is getting crazy. 1 run lead, dropped pop up by Lugo..


hold on tight boys.. this is going to be fun no matter what happens.

Infinite_Loser

Personally, I'd rather see a Clevand vs. Colorado WS but it doesn't look like that's gonna' happen right now.

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We are Red Sox Nation. NO lead is safe when you play us.

You gave it a good go Cleveland. You earned respect in my eyes. But now it's time for you to go home and see your kids and start paying the greens fees.

dylanmarsh

Sorry it had to happen to you again. Beckett was the difference. If CC and Fausto had dominated in half the games they pitched, I'd be the one depressed, right now. Here's hoping the Indians don't squander the new depth they've created and stay around for a few years. I'm tired of solely focusing on the Yankees every year.

pan6467

One last large RED lettered post:

CONGRATS TO THE BOSOX, TRULY THE BEST TEAM IN THE A.L. MADE IT TO THE WORLD SERIES THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!

I thought we got lucky winning the 3 in a row, but I also wanted to believe. I am proud the Tribe made it this far. We did get to see our weaknesses and what holes we need to fill this offseason. Who knows, we may meet up for a rematch next year.

Beckett handled the pressure extremely well, as did Wakefield (he, above anyone should be considered by the Bosox as their true lifesaver this series).

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Kadath

Sad Panda.

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Destrox

Sad panda indeed....

BUT

What a great series!!!!!

Holy shit I couldnt have asked for better. Grats to the BoSox, you earned it.

Now its time to truely test the #1 underdog vs BoSox.

Cleveland almost did it, can Colorado?

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Ilow

Great series. Glad the Sox finally got it done. I knew if they got it home they had a good chance, and in game sevens all bets are off. Sabathia and carmona really crapped the bed under pressure, which I didn't expect. I hope the rest until Wednesday does the guys well, especially Ortiz, who isn't really looking like himself. It was good to see JD 4-6-3 Drew do something positive, but Lugo is still looking sad at the plate. Dice K finally stepped up in a big game and pitched some quality innings and Oki and Papelbon did what they've done all year. I say Tavarez instead of Gagne on the WS roster. For the record, I am so glad Cleveland and their freakin baby wipe waving fans did not make it to the world series, man was that crap annoying. Keep printing World Series t-shirts, guys, I'm sure you'll make it some year! (had to gloat after all the crap that was talked about the blosux etc. here).

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I agree with most of this. I'm on the fence about Tavarez. He always scares me when he pitches. Nobody hates Gange more than I do, but to his credit he did look good in game 6. Maybe that's what he needed to turn the corner. I'm a little disappointed in the lack of work Lester has received. Maybe he'll get the chance to do something in the WS. As far as Lugo goes, he's just one of those players that has to be in there. His defense is too good to put on the bench.

How about Ellsbury? Man that kid is going to be something. As good as Coco patrols the outfield, I think Ellsbury does just as good a job and obviously has a better bat. Not to take away from Coco's phenominal catch to end the series, but I think it's a no brainer who should be starting in center.

This series still came down to pitching. The Indians starters just can't handle Fenway. Carmona has something like what? A 14.5 era and 11 walks per 9 innings at Fenway? That's all mental there. Eric Wedge needs to look at how he rotates his bullpen a little better and also, why wouldn't he have Trot Nixon in the game? Trot is a .330 hitter at Fenway in the postseason and he puts in some rookie batting .120 or something who is 2 for 15. Not a good move IMO. Not that I'm complaining. ANNNNND.. wtf is up with the 3rd base coach holding Loftin at 3rd? Thanks for sealing the deal with that call.

The WS will be an interesting one. I think the layoff has probably hurt the Rox a bit, but I'm not forgetting the wins they had against the Sox in June either; one of them being against Beckett. But then.. this is the postseason.. it's Becktober.

pan6467

Gloat all you want man. I would be. I did. It was all done for fun man. Trash talk is a part of sports, even Yahoo Fantasy Leagues allow smack talk.

It's sad that we blew a 3-1 lead in the ALCS but, who expected us to be there? Who expected us to take it to 7?

I still think except for Game 6, it was the best post season series in a very long time and in the end that's all that matters.

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There were actually quite a few "experts" who picked Cleveland to win it all at the beginning of the year.

doodlebird

this was posted on oct. 3.

man... i wish had put some money on that.

i believe that nationwide, you might be in the minority there.

during the whole post season, i saw boston hats everywhere. no less than 3 each day. i saw exactly one indians hat. (i live in texas...maybe we just have an inordinant number of misplaced new englanders..... but ummm, i don't think that's the case.)

i hope the rox can make a series out of it.
game 7s are the best.

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djtestudo

Nice job to the Sox. They just destroyed the Indians in the last three games.

Question to the Sox fans on here: there is a lot of controversy in Baltimore over Kevin Millar's appearance at game six and game seven, throwing out the first pitching and hanging out in the dugout in the latter. I'm curious to know if anyone found it uncomfortable that he was there even though he is under contract with the Orioles, a division rival.

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It didn't really bother me that he was there. I actually laughed because other than 2004 he was pretty sucky when he was with Boston. I think people forget that players are people and fans of the game too. Sure he might play for another team in the same division but it's not like they were playing Baltimore or that Baltimore was even a serious threat in the division. Millar has friends that still play for Boston so really who gives a fuck that he was there?

Now, if it had been Trot Nixon or someone like that on a team they were actually playing.. that would be a bit different.

World's King

I really wanted Colorado to have to play the Indians. Mainly cause I know they could beat them.


I'm a little worried about Colorado vs Boston. The main good thing I can think of is game 3 and 4 in Colorado. If we can beat 'em in Boston there is no way that can beat us at home. All in all... I'm so fuckin' excited for this.

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I would think it would be the opposite. As batter friendly as Coors Field is.. Boston should have a field day there, especially since they are hitting over .300 as a team right now

Ilow

On the sports talk radio it got a fair amount of "I have never even heard of such a thing" response, but there was not a great deal of animosity. I have to admit, when I saw it, I thought "that's odd." It's weird, if for no other reason than it is completely living in the past. I guess the Boston management contacted the Balt. GM or whatever, but it's not a big deal.

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.300 as a team... But not against our bullpen.

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Average_Joe

It's funny. Whenever Millar comes back to Boston for a series, the Boston media always pays a lot of attention to him. He's constantly being interviewed by the papers and sports radio. Perhaps it's the way the media portrays him, but it always seems like he wishes he could still be with the Red Sox. Since he's only a mediocre player, I think the Red Sox fans tend to embrace him, rather than think of him a rival or threat. I equate him as being a Red Sox "mascot".

So, I didn't feel uncomfortable about it at all, and I'm sure most fans felt the same way. I think it was more about Millar being able to come back and celebrate the glory days for one night than about anything else.

Now if it was Johnny Damon..........

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