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Gilda · 02-19-2006, 09:45 PM

Damn!

During the ice dancing competition tonight, every couple of minutes, some woman was being dropped onto the ice by her partner. Most of the time he'd just kinda drop her, but a couple of times that wasn't good enough, and he'd fall on top of her.

Hell, the ice was so messed up, one of the women tripped on her own toe pick during a parallel move.

There was less carnage in Final Destination 3.

Gilda

Note: I realize it was a series of accidents and the guys weren't trying to hurt their partners. It's just the nature of the sport that the guys lift the girls, and the guys occasionally drop the girls. The title is meant to be tongue in cheeck.

Plummie · 02-19-2006, 10:11 PM

Those men need to practice up!

Borla · 02-20-2006, 07:01 AM

I saw a couple minutes of the ice dancing......parts of two routines, and both women ended up being dumped on the ice. The first one looked like she smacked her hip HARD. It looked very painful.

highthief · 02-20-2006, 07:26 AM

The girls probably need to lose a few pounds - makes it easier to carry them and toss 'em around.

(waits for the PC police)

ShaniFaye · 02-20-2006, 07:28 AM

If you watched the replays of the first one....the one that couldnt continue....he didnt drop her.....she let go of him and fell

Borla · 02-20-2006, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highthief

The girls probably need to lose a few pounds - makes it easier to carry them and toss 'em around.

(waits for the PC police)

Or the guys need to work out more.

I am not an expert by any means, but I'd guess it's more a matter of proper technique and form than someone having an extra cheeseburger they shouldn't have.

ratbastid · 02-20-2006, 08:11 AM

Mostly it looked to me like the women stumbled and pulled their partners down.

The one really bad fall, it looked like they didn't really get into their lift properly, and were sort of hanging on for dear life. Not sure exactly who I'd pin that on. They wheeled that poor girl out on a stretcher, did you see?

Poppinjay · 02-20-2006, 08:13 AM

I like how the Italian couple just glared at each other at the end.

The woman was hot, in a kind of Tonya Harding way.

maleficent · 02-20-2006, 08:14 AM

I didn't think they did a lot of lifting and tossing in ice dancing... just way too much spandex...

had i known there'd be carnage.. crap it might actually be worth watching...

Borla · 02-20-2006, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid

Mostly it looked to me like the women stumbled and pulled their partners down.

The one really bad fall, it looked like they didn't really get into their lift properly, and were sort of hanging on for dear life. Not sure exactly who I'd pin that on. They wheeled that poor girl out on a stretcher, did you see?

I saw her partner carrying her around after, but I didn't watch long enough to see the stretcher. I know they said she was scheduled to skate again today, but it was unknown if she'd be able to. If she does, she is a trooper. I'm guessing her whole hip and right buttcheek is black and purple today.

In that particular fall I'd agree it looked like they never were in a good position, and she finally couldn't hang on any longer and her hands slipped off.

astrahl · 02-20-2006, 08:26 AM

I thought the outfits were awful - when are they just gonna have the women go naked? The guys get the lovely pantsuit and the women get these thong, glitter-titty covers. WTF?
And since I'm on a rant, what the hell is DANCING doing in olympic sport? Sure, it is athletic, but I'd hardly call it a worthy olympic pursuit.
Oh, and what about the American twit - snowboarder who hotdogged herself out of the gold? I cringe to think that THAT attitude is what most of the world thinks of as typically American.
Oy!

/end rant

I still love watching the Olympics. Winter is the best.

Poppinjay · 02-20-2006, 10:59 AM

You mean like this outfit?

This was the moment right before they ripped each other's throats out.

Charlatan · 02-20-2006, 11:35 AM

To those who didn't like the outfits... This is ice dancing we are talking about here. It's just ball room dancing on ice.

Have you seen what ballroom dancers wear?

Exactly.

maleficent · 02-20-2006, 11:41 AM

the days of torvill and dean are over...

it went from a classy exhibition style event to ------ this....

kudos to them for being able to skate in those twinkie outfits.. that's the skill...

ShaniFaye · 02-20-2006, 11:43 AM

did anyone see the bjork dress look alike?

even dick button said it was the biggest powder puff dress he'd ever seen

Charlatan · 02-20-2006, 11:53 AM

Dick Button? That's funny... almost tragic.

maleficent · 02-20-2006, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan

Dick Button?

he's still alive?

ShaniFaye · 02-20-2006, 12:06 PM

uh yes, he's one of the commentators, he's the one that keeps complaining nobody knows how to do a sit spin anymore

ratbastid · 02-20-2006, 12:10 PM

... And if I was in Turin, I'd be hunting him down and strangling him. The only commentator more annoying than Dick Button is that goober they've got screaming about bobsled races.

Oh! Dey skidded! Right dere at the top! Oh, dat'll cost 'em a couple hunnerts right dere!

ShaniFaye · 02-20-2006, 12:16 PM

but hes right!!!!

the sit spins look like shit in this competition, I only saw two couples in the pairs skating that even attempted to get low enuff

Craven Morehead · 02-20-2006, 01:12 PM

I think ice dancing is lame, kind of like a figure skating competition for couples not quite good enough to do the real thing. HOWEVER, Tanith Belbin is hot.

I'm sure ratings for the ice dancing finals will go up now that everyone will be tuning in to see couples crash to the ice.

Gilda · 02-20-2006, 02:25 PM

Just to be clear, I realize that it wasn't all the guys fault, that the the spills were a team thing for the most part. The title and tone of the OP were meant as a parody of reading ulterior motives into innocent coincidences, in this case, because I'm a feminist, from a radical feminist perspective. I mostly just wanted to comment on how many spills there were in ice dancing, and wanted a more interesting way of doing that than just saying, "A lot of girls took spills last night." I apparently don't do parody well.

Mal: I loved Torvil and Dean! I remember being mesmerized by their grace and elegance as a little girl. If I were athletic, other than the running thing, which doesn't really count, I'd want to be an ice dancer.

Gilda

Borla · 02-20-2006, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilda

Just to be clear, I realize that it wasn't all the guys fault, that the the spills were a team thing for the most part. The title and tone of the OP were meant as a parody of reading ulterior motives into innocent coincidences, in this case, because I'm a feminist, from a radical feminist perspective. I mostly just wanted to comment on how many spills there were in ice dancing, and wanted a more interesting way of doing that than just saying, "A lot of girls took spills last night." I apparently don't do parody well.

Mal: I loved Torvil and Dean! I remember being mesmerized by their grace and elegance as a little girl. If I were athletic, other than the running thing, which doesn't really count, I'd want to be an ice dancer.

Gilda

No explaining to do. I understood you fine.

Toaster126 · 02-20-2006, 03:40 PM

Just wanted to drop in and give props to the great thread title.

Carry on.

maleficent · 02-20-2006, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craven Morehead

HOWEVER, Tanith Belbin is hot.

.

Oh but lord have mercy does that girl have an annoying voice -- she sounds like minnie mouse on helium...

noodle · 02-20-2006, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Poppinjay

You mean like this outfit?

This was the moment right before they ripped each other's throats out.

She looks like a jar of jellybeans vomited on her chest. Who designs these things?

Craven Morehead · 02-20-2006, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maleficent

Oh but lord have mercy does that girl have an annoying voice -- she sounds like minnie mouse on helium...

Minnie mouse on helium

Charlatan · 02-21-2006, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilda

Just to be clear, I realize that it wasn't all the guys fault, that the the spills were a team thing for the most part. The title and tone of the OP were meant as a parody of reading ulterior motives into innocent coincidences, in this case, because I'm a feminist, from a radical feminist perspective. I mostly just wanted to comment on how many spills there were in ice dancing, and wanted a more interesting way of doing that than just saying, "A lot of girls took spills last night." I apparently don't do parody well.

Mal: I loved Torvil and Dean! I remember being mesmerized by their grace and elegance as a little girl. If I were athletic, other than the running thing, which doesn't really count, I'd want to be an ice dancer.

Gilda

Your parody was good. Don't worry about it.

/me ends pep talk

Carry on.

Lucifer · 02-21-2006, 06:20 AM

The Canadian duo, it was her that lost her grip on him, not the other way around, but he did say he was spinning a little too fast.
But if we are talking about the biggest dorks at this games it has to go to the Dutch bobsled coach, who after his team rolled their sled on the 4th corner and slid the rest of the way (at 90 km/h) to the finish line on their heads, smiled and waved at the camera!

kutulu · 02-21-2006, 07:55 AM

I could care less how Tanith's voice sounds. She's so hot that her voice could be the sound of fingernails on a chalk board and it wouldn't distract me. Now, about her partner...

Separated at birth?

Charlatan · 02-21-2006, 08:07 AM

Look! They won commemorative CDs with music from the ice dance competition...

maleficent · 02-21-2006, 08:14 AM

remember all those AOL CDs that got sent out - -AOL decided to sponsor the event and unload a bunch of old AOL 3.0 cd's

Poppinjay · 02-21-2006, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlatan

Look! They won commemorative CDs with music from the ice dance competition...

Bwahahahaha! We get twelve for a penny and then we just have to agree to purchase 4 more at regualr club prices!

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredweena

She looks like a jar of jellybeans vomited on her chest. Who designs these things?

In the case of this pair, I believe Fusar-Poli designed it herself, which is kind of why she gives me that Tonya Harding vibe.

I was happy, however, to see that they had made up after their second routine. I can't stand tension on the ice. And their spill made it possible for the Americans to win the commemorative CDs.

barenakedladies · 02-21-2006, 10:13 AM

They need to have a channel of just the falls.... that would boost ratings.

SirLance · 02-21-2006, 12:39 PM

I've decided to create a new event for the winter olympics. I call it "figure shooting."

What you do is have trained marksmen shoot at figure skaters. Points are for hits only, and are based on the resemblence of the figure skater's outfit to vomit.

Nimetic · 02-22-2006, 02:59 PM

IMHO - it's a bit more than ballroom dancing.

When a woman is thrown into the air and does three spins before landing on ice-skates, well that is physically more difficult than normal dancing.

But on the clothing side... it does seem to resemble competition ballroom dancing somewhat I admit. At least based on what I've seen off the TV.

highthief · 02-22-2006, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimetic

IMHO - it's a bit more than ballroom dancing.

When a woman is thrown into the air and does three spins before landing on ice-skates, well that is physically more difficult than normal dancing.

But on the clothing side... it does seem to resemble competition ballroom dancing somewhat I admit. At least based on what I've seen off the TV.

I think that's more the pairs figure skating than ice dancing, is it not? Two different events.

Nimetic · 02-22-2006, 03:00 PM

Ohh. Is ice dancing different to figure skating... I think I may have been incorrect...

Is this figure skating without the tougher bits?

Nimetic · 02-22-2006, 03:09 PM

Oh... I needed that explanation thanks. I'd assumed you meant it as an accusation.

Leaving aside the falls, which were fairly unbearable to watch in replay, I'd agree that the costumes are seriously stuffed from the point of view of reasonableness vs er, sales value. (Is marketability a word?).

On the positive side... the female skiers and sledders don't have to strip down yet.

Nimetic · 02-22-2006, 03:17 PM

The oddest bit is the move where they join together, woman facing the guy.

Then the woman lifts one leg in the air above her head (and guy holds it) and they spin with her exposed crotch facing outwards.

In the style of satirist (Aussie) sports commentators Roy and HG, I'd be inclined to call that maneuver the "any takers". Pretty odd stuff.

02-19-2006, 09:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gilda 32 flavors and then some Location: Out on a wire.	Misogyny on Ice Damn! During the ice dancing competition tonight, every couple of minutes, some woman was being dropped onto the ice by her partner. Most of the time he'd just kinda drop her, but a couple of times that wasn't good enough, and he'd fall on top of her. Hell, the ice was so messed up, one of the women tripped on her own toe pick during a parallel move. There was less carnage in Final Destination 3. Gilda Note: I realize it was a series of accidents and the guys weren't trying to hurt their partners. It's just the nature of the sport that the guys lift the girls, and the guys occasionally drop the girls. The title is meant to be tongue in cheeck. __________________ I'm against ending blackness. I believe that everyone has a right to be black, it's a choice, and I support that. ~Steven Colbert Last edited by Gilda; 02-20-2006 at 02:12 PM..

02-19-2006, 10:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Plummie Liquid Diamonds Location: Lexington, KY	Those men need to practice up! __________________ Kim

02-20-2006, 07:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
Borla Junkie	I saw a couple minutes of the ice dancing......parts of two routines, and both women ended up being dumped on the ice. The first one looked like she smacked her hip HARD. It looked very painful. __________________ Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde!!!!

02-20-2006, 07:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
highthief Junkie Location: Ontario, Canada	The girls probably need to lose a few pounds - makes it easier to carry them and toss 'em around. (waits for the PC police) __________________ Si vis pacem parabellum.

02-20-2006, 07:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	If you watched the replays of the first one....the one that couldnt continue....he didnt drop her.....she let go of him and fell __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

02-20-2006, 08:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	Mostly it looked to me like the women stumbled and pulled their partners down. The one really bad fall, it looked like they didn't really get into their lift properly, and were sort of hanging on for dear life. Not sure exactly who I'd pin that on. They wheeled that poor girl out on a stretcher, did you see?

02-20-2006, 08:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
Poppinjay You had me at hello Location: DC/Coastal VA	I like how the Italian couple just glared at each other at the end. The woman was hot, in a kind of Tonya Harding way. __________________ I think the Apocalypse is happening all around us. We go on eating desserts and watching TV. I know I do. I wish we were more capable of sustained passion and sustained resistance. We should be screaming and what we do is gossip. -Lydia Millet

02-20-2006, 08:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	I didn't think they did a lot of lifting and tossing in ice dancing... just way too much spandex... had i known there'd be carnage.. crap it might actually be worth watching... __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

02-20-2006, 08:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
astrahl Insane Location: You don't want to live here	I thought the outfits were awful - when are they just gonna have the women go naked? The guys get the lovely pantsuit and the women get these thong, glitter-titty covers. WTF? And since I'm on a rant, what the hell is DANCING doing in olympic sport? Sure, it is athletic, but I'd hardly call it a worthy olympic pursuit. Oh, and what about the American twit - snowboarder who hotdogged herself out of the gold? I cringe to think that THAT attitude is what most of the world thinks of as typically American. Oy! /end rant I still love watching the Olympics. Winter is the best. __________________ Maybe it was over when she chucked me out the Rover at full speed. Maybe Maybe... ~a-Ha

02-20-2006, 10:59 AM	#12 (permalink)
Poppinjay You had me at hello Location: DC/Coastal VA	You mean like this outfit? This was the moment right before they ripped each other's throats out. __________________ I think the Apocalypse is happening all around us. We go on eating desserts and watching TV. I know I do. I wish we were more capable of sustained passion and sustained resistance. We should be screaming and what we do is gossip. -Lydia Millet

02-20-2006, 11:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	To those who didn't like the outfits... This is ice dancing we are talking about here. It's just ball room dancing on ice. Have you seen what ballroom dancers wear? Exactly. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

02-20-2006, 11:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	the days of torvill and dean are over... it went from a classy exhibition style event to ------ this.... kudos to them for being able to skate in those twinkie outfits.. that's the skill... __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

02-20-2006, 11:43 AM	#15 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	did anyone see the bjork dress look alike? even dick button said it was the biggest powder puff dress he'd ever seen __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

02-20-2006, 11:53 AM	#16 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Dick Button? That's funny... almost tragic. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

02-20-2006, 12:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	uh yes, he's one of the commentators, he's the one that keeps complaining nobody knows how to do a sit spin anymore __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

02-20-2006, 03:40 PM	#24 (permalink)
Toaster126 Extreme moderation Location: Kansas City, yo.	Just wanted to drop in and give props to the great thread title. Carry on. __________________ "The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me." (Ayn Rand) "The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers." (M. Scott Peck)

02-20-2006, 12:10 PM	#19 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	... And if I was in Turin, I'd be hunting him down and strangling him. The only commentator more annoying than Dick Button is that goober they've got screaming about bobsled races. Oh! Dey skidded! Right dere at the top! Oh, dat'll cost 'em a couple hunnerts right dere!

02-20-2006, 12:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	but hes right!!!! the sit spins look like shit in this competition, I only saw two couples in the pairs skating that even attempted to get low enuff __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

02-20-2006, 01:12 PM	#21 (permalink)
Craven Morehead Custom User Title	I think ice dancing is lame, kind of like a figure skating competition for couples not quite good enough to do the real thing. HOWEVER, Tanith Belbin is hot. I'm sure ratings for the ice dancing finals will go up now that everyone will be tuning in to see couples crash to the ice.

02-20-2006, 02:25 PM	#22 (permalink)
Gilda 32 flavors and then some Location: Out on a wire.	Just to be clear, I realize that it wasn't all the guys fault, that the the spills were a team thing for the most part. The title and tone of the OP were meant as a parody of reading ulterior motives into innocent coincidences, in this case, because I'm a feminist, from a radical feminist perspective. I mostly just wanted to comment on how many spills there were in ice dancing, and wanted a more interesting way of doing that than just saying, "A lot of girls took spills last night." I apparently don't do parody well. Mal: I loved Torvil and Dean! I remember being mesmerized by their grace and elegance as a little girl. If I were athletic, other than the running thing, which doesn't really count, I'd want to be an ice dancer. Gilda __________________ I'm against ending blackness. I believe that everyone has a right to be black, it's a choice, and I support that. ~Steven Colbert

02-21-2006, 06:20 AM	#29 (permalink)
Lucifer Husband of Seamaiden Location: Nova Scotia	The Canadian duo, it was her that lost her grip on him, not the other way around, but he did say he was spinning a little too fast. But if we are talking about the biggest dorks at this games it has to go to the Dutch bobsled coach, who after his team rolled their sled on the 4th corner and slid the rest of the way (at 90 km/h) to the finish line on their heads, smiled and waved at the camera! __________________ I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls. - Job 30:29 1123, 6536, 5321

02-21-2006, 07:55 AM	#30 (permalink)
kutulu Junkie	I could care less how Tanith's voice sounds. She's so hot that her voice could be the sound of fingernails on a chalk board and it wouldn't distract me. Now, about her partner... Separated at birth?

02-21-2006, 08:07 AM	#31 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Look! They won commemorative CDs with music from the ice dance competition... __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

02-21-2006, 08:14 AM	#32 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	remember all those AOL CDs that got sent out - -AOL decided to sponsor the event and unload a bunch of old AOL 3.0 cd's __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

02-21-2006, 10:13 AM	#34 (permalink)
barenakedladies Crazy Location: anytown, USA	They need to have a channel of just the falls.... that would boost ratings. __________________ signature smignature

02-21-2006, 12:39 PM	#35 (permalink)
SirLance Junkie Location: In the middle of the desert.	I've decided to create a new event for the winter olympics. I call it "figure shooting." What you do is have trained marksmen shoot at figure skaters. Points are for hits only, and are based on the resemblence of the figure skater's outfit to vomit. __________________ DEMOCRACY is where your vote counts, FEUDALISM is where your count votes.

02-22-2006, 02:59 PM	#36 (permalink)
Nimetic Junkie Location: Melbourne, Australia	IMHO - it's a bit more than ballroom dancing. When a woman is thrown into the air and does three spins before landing on ice-skates, well that is physically more difficult than normal dancing. But on the clothing side... it does seem to resemble competition ballroom dancing somewhat I admit. At least based on what I've seen off the TV.

02-22-2006, 03:00 PM	#38 (permalink)
Nimetic Junkie Location: Melbourne, Australia	Ohh. Is ice dancing different to figure skating... I think I may have been incorrect... Is this figure skating without the tougher bits?

02-22-2006, 03:09 PM	#39 (permalink)
Nimetic Junkie Location: Melbourne, Australia	Oh... I needed that explanation thanks. I'd assumed you meant it as an accusation. Leaving aside the falls, which were fairly unbearable to watch in replay, I'd agree that the costumes are seriously stuffed from the point of view of reasonableness vs er, sales value. (Is marketability a word?). On the positive side... the female skiers and sledders don't have to strip down yet.

02-22-2006, 03:17 PM	#40 (permalink)
Nimetic Junkie Location: Melbourne, Australia	The oddest bit is the move where they join together, woman facing the guy. Then the woman lifts one leg in the air above her head (and guy holds it) and they spin with her exposed crotch facing outwards. In the style of satirist (Aussie) sports commentators Roy and HG, I'd be inclined to call that maneuver the "any takers". Pretty odd stuff.