abaya

Charlatan... do you know why seretogis (I didn't know him at all) stopped posting? Did it have anything to do with the attitudes of the forum, or was it unrelated?

I'm starting to believe that either there are NO gay men on TFP, or that we really are so hetero- and bi-women crazy that any gay male TFP'ers are extremely intimidated and do not want to come out in any way. Perhaps the former is connected to the latter. Both thoughts depress me, especially because this thread has been so positive (in my opinion).

Hell, even if a gay man posted here and gave a diatribe on why the TFP sucks, I'd appreciate it. At least then I'd have some understanding/insight.

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Charlatan

I don't know why... he was a prolific poster in Politics and was one of the anchors for the right minded, libertarian side of the board.

Perhaps he grew tired of the petty bickering in Politics.

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forkies

umm, hello? and you wonder why gay men feel like their voice isn't being heard. :\

Esen

Well, I guess there could be a Gay Board or something to that effect.
Perhaaps a board where it is a comfortable place for the gay community.

Of course the board wouldn t be to segregate anyone but to give people a cplace to talk about common things like....


Anyhow; living in nyc I'm used to the gay community and some of my closest friends happen to be gay.

For the most part everything that intersts a gay person interests a straight person that is why you really do not even realize somtimes that there is a gay community on the boards because besoides liking cock I think they are all the same..

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tecoyah

If indeed...there is a percieved bias against Gay Men in this world of TFP, We need to know about it. When this thread began, I decided to follow it in an attempt to gain a bit of insight, and because I have also noted a hole where these voices should be. We strive to create something different in this community....an evolution of society if you will, and cannot really do so if we are blind to what the community is thinking. This is the primary reason we are successful, acceptance.

I ask this community now......are we missing something here?
Do Members feel excluded because of Sexuality?
If so....What suggestions are there for a fix?

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maleficent

The "only out gay poster" seemed to answer the question in the other thread...

Just cause they aren't advertising, and why should they, doesn't mean they aren't here as participants in this community.

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seretogis

Actually, I all but stopped posting here due to having no internet access at my temporary job and being so busy with my World of Warcraft guild when I'm not working. I stopped posting in The Full Monty due to that forum suddenly being indexed in Google, and that I don't want searches of my name pulling up porn that I post for the few men/women here that enjoy it. TFP is a great community already, though I sometimes roll my eyes at the lengths at which some people go to be accepting, but that's more due to my log-cabin-Libertarian politics than any fault of TFP. I poke around on the board occasionally but usually back out of my replies because I don't have the time at the moment to dutifully monitor the threads I post on.

As for specific attempts at attracting more openly gay men, I personally wouldn't want to see that happen here. I'm not a fan of creating a "gay forum" to cater to the stereotypical rainbow-flag-waving "gay community" anymore than I am a fan of creating a "busted down truck forum" to attract southern white-trash. I think that people should feel comfortable enough with TFP as-is to know that if their sexuality were to matter, this is a safe non-judgemental place to speak of it.

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Charlatan

Good to see you Seretogis and thanks for chiming in on this...

This is exactly how I feel about it as well. I just couldn't articulate it...

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abaya

I'm sorry if this offended you or anyone else; my intent was to say that I'd appreciate any response, positive or negative, to the TFP status quo, and it would be more helpful if it came from the gay male perspective. Until Seretogis posted (thank you), I had absolutely no information on what the gay community thought about the TFP, so I was trying to encourage people to post ANY opinion so that we might better understand how to change it if necessary. I hope it did not get taken the wrong way.

Then again, is it really necessary to change the TFP, as others have said here? Can we force the whole community to change?... I still feel like we are missing a great deal (compared to how much we hear about hetero- and mostly female-bi issues), but force isn't often the best way to go in these situations.

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MSD

There's also a "Full Monty" board. I haven't been in there much, but I'm pretty sure that anyone who finds nude men attractive could find something they like.

Gilda

I came here from a link on Big Boards, and didn't know about the titty board until it showed up one day, though I have been thoroughly enjoying it since it did show up.

I've noticed a lack of gay and bi men talking openly, but as others have said, it may be that they're here but not talking about their sexuality.

On the other hand, I really haven't seen many homosexual women either. A lot of bi or bi-curious women, or just those who enjoy openly flirting with each other, certainly, but most seem to be in hetero relationships, and I don't think I can recall, in the short time I've been here, reading of any other women in an exclusively lesbian relationship or who consider themselves lesbian rather than bi, though that may be because I've not been here long.

I feel comfortable discussing my sexuality and confusion regarding whether I'm gay or bi in part because of the large number of bi women here. It may be that the gay men haven't seen the equivilent among the guys, and so don't feel as comfortable coming out here.

It may be a simple matter of mathematics--most people are heterosexual, and we live in a culture that assumes heterosexuality unless there are signs to the contrary, so unless someone announces their sexuality, we may not know about it.

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Cimarron29414

Slightly relevant observation to this thread:

I have 4 committed gay couples in my life: friends,neighbors,coworkers and family. However, all four of the couples are male. So, I actually find it strange that all of the bi/bi-curious/lesbian women I know are on the internet and all the gay men I know are in real life!

In a poor attempt to tie that back to this thread, I propose that there might not be as many bi/bi-curious/lesbian women on TFP as we think. Perhaps, some use it as a means of getting attention on the board. Not, that there is anything wrong with that because exploring sexuality, even if it is only something you do in your mind, is what this place is about!

Also, there is a lot more content here for straight men and lesbian women. I haven't really seen that much content geared towards gay men. Could that be why?

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Sticky

Which comes first the chicken or the egg?

Does the content bring the posters or do the posters bring the content?

Are there few gay men on the boards because there is little content geared towards gay men or is there little content geared towards gay men becuase there are few gay men on the boards?

You get my point.

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insidious_machinae

I find it amusing that my gay roommate is staunchly against heterosexuality and lesbianism, and I'm supportive of all styles of sexuality.