Making Love Without Sex (from LL) - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Brooke · 01-30-2005, 10:12 PM

This could go into comming together as well - toss up really. This is also a thread that is running in the LL - but I thought I might want guys imput as well.

Quote:

This just occoured to me as I was reading the thread in Comming Together on "love" and "inlove"
Pigglet quoted a friendof his as saying:

Quote:
Making love is when you stare into each others eyes, and sometimes you forget to actually move your hips. You're completely stark naked

If this statement is true, then it is the intimacy that makes "making love" the act it is. It also mentions that forgetting to move is part of the expirence. If moving is an essential part to sex - then can one "make love" with out having sex. - do you even have to be naked?

One of the most intimate expirences - one that I will never forget - was starting a guy in the eyes for about 20 minutes. The only things that came off were our glasses

K-Wise · 01-30-2005, 10:18 PM

Wow thats interesting. I suppose it would depend on what ones perception of making love is. I can see some considering the possibility though. Heh this reminds me of that movie 40 days and 40 nights. The flower scene.

Asta!!

pig · 01-30-2005, 10:58 PM

Brooke,

I would say it's a semantic word game. I think that the distinction is certainly one of intimacy, trust, and all that good stuff. As far as describing touching hands in the popcorn as "making love," I would have to say it's going to end up being a personal choice of vocabulary. You'll be telling your girl friends "I felt the heavens move when our legs brushed beneath the table, and our eyes locked for what felt like an eternity of soul-exchanging bliss....it was the Rapture" and your Andrew Dice Clay Ape-Man Neandrathal boyfriend (who plays the lute and quotes Shakespeare) will be telling his drinking buddies "I don't know. Our legs kind of touched beneath the table. I had to take a leak and sort of popped a half-master. She was staring at me like she knew. Do y'all think she knew? Did she care? Damn, that was some funny shit...."

Or maybe not,

ICER · 01-30-2005, 11:24 PM

Well, yes you can make love without doing anything more then looking into each others eyes. To me, nothing is more beautiful then a person's soul, or the inner person if you will.

But I do believe pigglet is correct. It will come down to a personal idea of what intimacy is. Just because I think looking into my wife eyes is just as exciting as have sex with her. Doesn't mean she feels the same way. Allot of my erotic writing centers on that intimate feeling that two people can have. And I truly do feel that it is much more erotic then the actual love making at times.

And yes pigglet, I do quote Shakespeare, but I don't play the lute.

drakers · 01-31-2005, 08:39 AM

I think part of making love to someone is physical, it doesn't have to be the biggest or best part, but I think anyone could make an argument either way. Popular thoughts say yes must be physical, but there are those few that would say no don't have too. I think there needs to be some touching in order for it to be called making love.

Elusive Dreamer · 02-02-2005, 04:39 PM

I looked the literal definition up on WEBSTER.com

One entry found for lovemaking.

Main Entry: love·mak·ing
Pronunciation: 'l&v-"mA-ki[ng]
Function: noun
1 : COURTSHIP
2 : sexual activity; especially : COPULATION

so it says, "sexual activity"... the act of 'making' in the english language usually and typically pertains to a literal action, but to sort-of contradict myself i'd say that 'love' is an action.

in my non-collegiate mind (aka: the hopelessly pathetic romantic in me) says; love making is what you make of your love. what you and that person are together, when together, and even when not together, is when the making of love happens. i can show my SO that i love him in millions of ways other than 'making love' or as you will, 'having sexual relations' with him. Its intense and beautiful and the first time that we did make love, it was... making love. i was showing him that i was falling in love with him. making love and sex are generally the same thing.. but when you start defining those acts as "fucking" that's where i disagree. 'fucking' is NOT an act of love or even, sexual desire (in my mind). 'fucking' brings on this dirty thought... as if it really didn't matter who was behind that condom (hopefully).
making love isn't something you can achieve with just anyone...
that's just my opinion.
i dont think i described this the way i entirely was wishing to do so. but maybe i got my point across?

kollege_gal2000 · 02-03-2005, 10:13 AM

It truly depends on the person. I think love-making is more of a feeling/emotion then an actual action. When making love in the sexual content, it's great, but sex is sometimes just sex, and even if you have sex with someone doesn't mean that you are making love. However, if you find that special someone, staring into their eyes, or caressing/being caressed can truly be an experience within itself.

However, for the record, I am a hopeless romantic.

MageB420666 · 02-03-2005, 01:31 PM

Sex can be a type of making love, making love is performing an action that expresses your love for the other person, even if it's just saying "I love you". I tend to think of sex as making love because it is one of the best ways that I can think of to let my girlfriend know that I love her. Making love is about the intimacy of the act, and when I make love to my girlfriend it is very intimate, but for a lot of people it is nothing more than "Hey this feels good, I want to do it, and I don't care who I do it with".

I have a good little test to check if your making love or just fucking:

If you can look your partner in the eye while having sex and honestly tell them that you love them, then your making love. If not, then your just fucking.

01-30-2005, 10:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	Wow thats interesting. I suppose it would depend on what ones perception of making love is. I can see some considering the possibility though. Heh this reminds me of that movie 40 days and 40 nights. The flower scene. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

01-30-2005, 10:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
pig pigglet pigglet Location: Locash	Brooke, I would say it's a semantic word game. I think that the distinction is certainly one of intimacy, trust, and all that good stuff. As far as describing touching hands in the popcorn as "making love," I would have to say it's going to end up being a personal choice of vocabulary. You'll be telling your girl friends "I felt the heavens move when our legs brushed beneath the table, and our eyes locked for what felt like an eternity of soul-exchanging bliss....it was the Rapture" and your Andrew Dice Clay Ape-Man Neandrathal boyfriend (who plays the lute and quotes Shakespeare) will be telling his drinking buddies "I don't know. Our legs kind of touched beneath the table. I had to take a leak and sort of popped a half-master. She was staring at me like she knew. Do y'all think she knew? Did she care? Damn, that was some funny shit...." Or maybe not, __________________ You don't love me, you just love my piggy style

01-30-2005, 11:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
ICER Chilled to Perfection Location: Dallas, TX	Well, yes you can make love without doing anything more then looking into each others eyes. To me, nothing is more beautiful then a person's soul, or the inner person if you will. But I do believe pigglet is correct. It will come down to a personal idea of what intimacy is. Just because I think looking into my wife eyes is just as exciting as have sex with her. Doesn't mean she feels the same way. Allot of my erotic writing centers on that intimate feeling that two people can have. And I truly do feel that it is much more erotic then the actual love making at times. And yes pigglet, I do quote Shakespeare, but I don't play the lute. __________________ What's the difference between congress and a penitentiary? One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers and threats to society. The other is for housing prisoners. ~~David Letterman

02-03-2005, 10:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
kollege_gal2000 Tilted Location: Edinburg, TX	It truly depends on the person. I think love-making is more of a feeling/emotion then an actual action. When making love in the sexual content, it's great, but sex is sometimes just sex, and even if you have sex with someone doesn't mean that you are making love. However, if you find that special someone, staring into their eyes, or caressing/being caressed can truly be an experience within itself. However, for the record, I am a hopeless romantic. __________________ I am not afraid of tomorrow; for I have seen yesterday and love today!

02-03-2005, 01:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
MageB420666 <Insert wise statement here> Location: Hell if I know	Sex can be a type of making love, making love is performing an action that expresses your love for the other person, even if it's just saying "I love you". I tend to think of sex as making love because it is one of the best ways that I can think of to let my girlfriend know that I love her. Making love is about the intimacy of the act, and when I make love to my girlfriend it is very intimate, but for a lot of people it is nothing more than "Hey this feels good, I want to do it, and I don't care who I do it with". I have a good little test to check if your making love or just fucking: If you can look your partner in the eye while having sex and honestly tell them that you love them, then your making love. If not, then your just fucking. __________________ Apathy: The best outlook this side of I don't give a damn.

01-31-2005, 08:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
drakers Psycho Location: IOWA	I think part of making love to someone is physical, it doesn't have to be the biggest or best part, but I think anyone could make an argument either way. Popular thoughts say yes must be physical, but there are those few that would say no don't have too. I think there needs to be some touching in order for it to be called making love.

02-02-2005, 04:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Elusive Dreamer Upright Location: chicago	I looked the literal definition up on WEBSTER.com One entry found for lovemaking. Main Entry: love·mak·ing Pronunciation: 'l&v-"mA-ki[ng] Function: noun 1 : COURTSHIP 2 : sexual activity; especially : COPULATION so it says, "sexual activity"... the act of 'making' in the english language usually and typically pertains to a literal action, but to sort-of contradict myself i'd say that 'love' is an action. in my non-collegiate mind (aka: the hopelessly pathetic romantic in me) says; love making is what you make of your love. what you and that person are together, when together, and even when not together, is when the making of love happens. i can show my SO that i love him in millions of ways other than 'making love' or as you will, 'having sexual relations' with him. Its intense and beautiful and the first time that we did make love, it was... making love. i was showing him that i was falling in love with him. making love and sex are generally the same thing.. but when you start defining those acts as "fucking" that's where i disagree. 'fucking' is NOT an act of love or even, sexual desire (in my mind). 'fucking' brings on this dirty thought... as if it really didn't matter who was behind that condom (hopefully). making love isn't something you can achieve with just anyone... that's just my opinion. i dont think i described this the way i entirely was wishing to do so. but maybe i got my point across?