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Old 12-21-2004, 12:19 PM   #41 (permalink)
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No one is ridiculing anyone.. if people are just gonna misunderstand the point then I'll probably just stop here so I don't keep wasting my time
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Old 12-21-2004, 12:43 PM   #42 (permalink)
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No one is ridiculing anyone.. if people are just gonna misunderstand the point then I'll probably just stop here so I don't keep wasting my time
I didn't think you were attacking me - I was just anticipating some ridicule from some readers after my list - that's all. Your own statements are sincere.
I wasn't trying to take your words out of context, either. I understand what you're trying to say. If anything I'm just trying to elaborate upon the issue so that your statement isn't interpreted the wrong way.

It's probably accurate to say that a person's musical limitations (i.e. what they'll NEVER listen to) can say something about them, too. I taught some girls to like jazz. And some of them refused to listen to anything that wasn't associated with some million dollar music video.... I'll admit that can be a major turnoff.
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Old 12-21-2004, 05:08 PM   #43 (permalink)
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It all depends how important music is for you. Music is about my main interest or hobby, and I take it pretty seriously, so if a girl couldn't appreciate that about me, and have at least an open mind my music, then there'd be a problem. Now if I were someone who just listened to the local radio station in my car, and that about how far my music interest went, then I couldn't care less if she liked the same station or not.

Short answer.... for me, it's important
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Old 12-21-2004, 05:37 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I don't think that guaging ones intelligence by the music they listen to is all that flawed. But more so it tells their state of mind. You can tell a lot about people by how much the music they listen to makes them think...Britney Spears isn't exactly a serious artist that makes you think when you listen to her music so people listen to her just for the musical distraction so to speak...she makes "fun" poppy dance music and if a girls listening to her thats usually the state of mind that she's in at the time..having fun, dancing, stuff like that. Now if she was listening to someone like hmm lemme think who's a pretty popular band...Say Dashboard Confessional, R.E.M., Counting Crows, Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers etc. those bands are a little more pensive and cerebrel. They make you think about things like relationships, feelings, getting away, or just that "Hey these are really good lyrics" ya know? So that shows that she likes to be somewhat involved in her music, she wants it to say something to her...So if she listens to both kinds that shows she likes to have her music speak to her but also sometimes she just likes to have a good time and enjoy life as well(Not to say that you can't have a good time listening to pensive music..I know I do)...So NO it's not THAT shallow or ignorant to base once intelligence or overall thought patterns on what type of music she listens to. And also compatability is key in any relationship as well as love and trust...keep that in mind man. You gotta have at least SOMETHING in common.

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Old 12-22-2004, 03:12 AM   #45 (permalink)
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It is shallow to base opinions on intelligence on music tastes, people who listen to "mass marketed MTV bands" are not doing so because they lack the mental capacity to see through the devious marketing ploys that propel these people to fame (try to understand there is a LOT of talent involved in getting your average mass marketed teen sensation famous) they just don't care about it as much as others do, people who knock others tastes in music do it from a position of insecurity about their own
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Old 12-22-2004, 03:20 AM   #46 (permalink)
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^ Yer right man...I'm terrified no one else out there likes Pink Floyd...ya know I'm not even sure why I like them so much...that must be what it is..thats why I make fun of people who listen to pop music..because I'm insecure about my own musical tastes I'm just glad someone finally brought it to my attention.

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Old 12-22-2004, 04:24 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I guess I have a hard time understanding how some people are thinking.

You HAVE to have compatibility with another person... you need to have things in common. If movies and music are two of the biggest interests in life, then what, you think I'm gonna go after the person who hates both of those and LOVES sports/cars (both of which I don't particularly care for)? No.

It's not being shallow, it's called compatibility. Using a litmus test of sorts to strike up conversation as well as to get a quick general idea about someone's personality isn't shallow. It IS if you said something like, "Oh, you like Britney Spears? Okay, fuck off then, I don't really wanna know you."

People who are complete opposites COULD get along well, but it's quite difficult to do if you don't share the same passions in life.

This has nothing to do with insecurities. Everyone has insecurities of sorts, but let me tell ya, music isn't one of mine. I'm quite content in knowing that most of what I listen to has inspired or will inspire generations of great music, so there's really no troubles or issues in that department...

No one is knocking anyone's tastes. I don't think anyone goes up to another person and right away after finding out they like Limp Bizkit saying, "God, you have such awful taste in music. You're a horrible person."

It's just a litmus test of sorts, and a valid one at that.

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people who listen to "mass marketed MTV bands" are not doing so because they lack the mental capacity to see through the devious marketing ploys that propel these people to fame (try to understand there is a LOT of talent involved in getting your average mass marketed teen sensation famous) they just don't care about it as much as others do,
For that one example, it's not that they're incompetent or stupid, it's just that I would like to see the ambition to think outside of the box... to get interests and inspiration beyond what the TV tells you to like.

Seeing as how I got into music around the time Nirvana made it big, I'm not too far from the "subjected to mass marketed crap on mtv" tree, however, I did take the initiative to go beyond that. I started listening to a diverse amount of music along with those very bands that inspired the groups I like. Kind of a, "I love Nirvana... so who did THEY like? Led Zeppelin? Sonic Youth? Black Flag? The Beatles?" type of thing.

Since music is a very big interest of mine, of course I'll keep an eye out for people who are able to do the same thing.

If not, then that's fine because I'll try to find something else in common, but tastes in music will always be a quick litmus test that I'll use since music is something everyone enjoys. Not only that, but music/movies is something that quickly allows two people to strike up easy conversation.

A good example of how I used this in recent times:

I started talking to an ex-girlfriend of mine from high school over AIM. You would generally like to talk about something past the general "hi, how are you? what have you done, what are you going to school for?" convo, so one of the first things I asked was, "So, you still into Faith No More?"

From there, that spawned a convo about other Mike Patton related stuff, which also branched into a plethora of other topics.

Had she said, "Not really.." then I would've fished around for something else, maybe other music or movie related. She liked video games back then, so I might've brought something up about that.

Yeah, there's tons of other stuff to talk about, but you don't wanna dive into serious or personal stuff (politics is one) right away. You just wanna get to know the other person, have some fun chat about something simple... music just happens to be one of em.

I'm telling you... you might not belive me, but you CAN learn a lot about a person by a quick conversation on music. Like I said, I challenge you to try it.
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Old 12-22-2004, 05:13 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I'm telling you... you might not belive me, but you CAN learn a lot about a person by a quick conversation on music. Like I said, I challenge you to try it.
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I agree you can tell a lot about a person by a quick conversation on music, or on a whole host of other subjects, that is not my point or the point of this thread. It is possible to have an enlightening conversation with someone about music EVEN if they have different tastes in music (in fact it can be an even better converstion if you have different tastes because you can learn from each other) liking "pop" music does not mean an incapability to think outside the box, neither does liking Nirvana mean an ability to do so.

My point - musical tastes do not matter in a relationship, a relationship where people have the same musical tastes is no more or less valid than one where they don't - you're tastes will change as you get older anyway.
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Old 12-23-2004, 11:12 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I think it's very important....I can tell what kind of person someone (and level of overall intelligence) is by the music and movies that they like.
I listen to pretty much whatever is on, but I do have preferences.

My two favorite genres are industrial and death metal (examplse: KMFDM and In Flames.) I'm also a big fan of classic rock (Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Beatles, etc.) Some other high on my list are grunge, original (real) punk , hard rock and classic metal (Nirvana, Ramones, The Clash, Metallica, Black Sabbath.) An odd addition to this mix is some newer underground hip hop (Atmosphere, Bionic Jive, Cunning Lynguists.) To round out the mix, I appreciate classical orchestral music of all types, and I won't try to list everything here because I'd inevitably leave something out and piss off elitists

As for movies, I'll throw out my favorites in no particular order: Fight Club, Pulp Fiction, American History X, Pi, American Beauty, Requiem for a Dream, Monty Python and the Hoyl Grail, Monty Python's Meaning of Life, The Ring/Ringu, The Shining.


That's a little bit of what I like and what I listen to; judge me based on that. Don't be afraid to be condescending or rude, you have my permission to say anything about me that you want based on this. After you finish, I'll toss out a bit of background information to give you an idea of how well you guessed. If you want more information, throw out some artists, songs, movies, or whatever you want, and I'll give you my opinion to help you make your judgement.
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Old 12-24-2004, 12:20 AM   #50 (permalink)
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^ Yer right man...I'm terrified no one else out there likes Pink Floyd...ya know I'm not even sure why I like them so much...that must be what it is..thats why I make fun of people who listen to pop music..because I'm insecure about my own musical tastes I'm just glad someone finally brought it to my attention.

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Pink Floyd is the king of rock music. I have introduced my kids to Pink Floyd. They love it.

But as to the importance of music, it is critical. How can anyone NOT allow music to touch their souls?

At home, i listen to classical and jazz as well as pink floyd and a few other bands that actually have melodiy's.

My wife and i have constant squabbles over music. She listens to this country shit which makes me absolutely puke. We're just not compatible. and this is after 18 years of marriage.

Bottom line? Music is for the soul.

Everybody must buy/download Mozart's Requiem and Puccini's operas. That is music to die for.
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Old 12-24-2004, 04:52 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I think that if someone likes the same music as you that pretty much just indicates that they have the same interest in music as you. My wife and I have been married over twenty years and we don’t even come close to having the same interests in music. So apparently it was a good thing that I (I’m dating myself here) didn’t go through her cassette tape collection to base whether or not I would like her. I guess we did it the old fashioned way; we got to know each other. For those of you that have found someone with the same musical tastes, great for you. You have doubled your CD collection, but you’ve not guaranteed that you have found a soul mate.

Any statements that a person’s intelligence can be weighed by the music they listen to are groundless. Nevertheless, I’d like someone to post what intelligent people listen to, I think we’ll see quite a variety.
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Old 12-24-2004, 07:17 AM   #52 (permalink)
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A person's politics probably says you more about them than their musical tastes does.
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Old 12-26-2004, 08:41 PM   #53 (permalink)
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A person's politics probably says you more about them than their musical tastes does.
Definietly for compatibility, not for intelligence, though. That and religion are two big things I look at. From looking at those two things, I can rule out being compatible with over half of people I check out.
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Old 01-17-2005, 07:26 AM   #54 (permalink)
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I have a big problem with it. Im tolerant in every other area of my life except for music, and most girls dont have the same music tastes as me, so it's always a problem.
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Old 01-19-2005, 11:20 AM   #55 (permalink)
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I'm telling you, it really matters to me. I made a big mistake getting involved with someone who doesnt relate at all to my cultural icons or resonate to the beat that I hear. I thought It was interesting to be with someone so different.....uuuuuuuuh, it ISNT, It means, actually, as it turns out, we like diff food, diff sex, diff you name it.... it just took a long time for that to become clear to me. We dont dance together, in any sense. Its Bad, and not in a good way.
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Old 01-19-2005, 11:41 AM   #56 (permalink)
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It's not a clincher for me. Hubby and I have different musical tastes with some overlap, and we've each introduced the other to new artists and styles of music. Before I met him, I'd never listened to Nirvana, Pink Floyd, later Beatles, Led Zeppelin just to name a few. I introduced him to Bob Dylan and Allison Krauss. I have a much broader musical interest thanks to him, and since music is an integral part of my life, I am better for it. It's all about compromise; meet someone with different tastes and you may find out you have a new favorite band or artist.
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Old 01-19-2005, 11:42 AM   #57 (permalink)
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I was going to say it doesn't matter a bit but then realized that the reason it doesn't really matter in my house is that my wife doesn't listen to music as much as I do... Most of the records and CDs are mine...

The few that are her's she listens to when she's in the car.
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Old 01-19-2005, 12:05 PM   #58 (permalink)
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No big deal, if you can't find some accommodation for music, your relationship is in deep shit, anyway.

There are 3 or 4 bands that I love and my wife can't stand. They stay in my car. The Alannis collection stays in hers.
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Old 01-19-2005, 01:36 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Interesting thread. I guess I'm on the side of....musical compatability matters but it's not the be all and end all. I love when I meet a guy (as I just have) and don't have to explain who the bands are I like (eg: "Tenacious D? Isn't that the band with that actor guy in it?" *groan*)
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:00 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Allison Krauss has a beautiful voice Medusa

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Old 01-19-2005, 05:00 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Yes, she does. Hubby used to despise country, and I was listening to her while I drove (whoever drives picks the music) and he told me the exact same thing! Neither of us are country freaks, but there is bound to be a good artist in every genre of music.
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Old 01-19-2005, 05:07 PM   #62 (permalink)
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First heard her watching "Cold Mountain" then saw her performing "My Ain True Love" on the DVD extras. Haven't checked out her albums just yet but she left an impression...really beautiful voice. She's attractive as well.

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Old 01-20-2005, 06:00 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Music compatibility doesn't matter, if you begin a committed relationship the girl should respect or choice in music and you should take turns in listening to the other's music.
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Old 01-20-2005, 08:27 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Musical compatability. I don't think I've ever heard a more hilarious term.

I love music. I also love it when I can talk music with my friends / girlfriends. However, if a girl doesn't like the music that I absolutely love, that's perfectly ok with me. There are all kinds of other things we can have in common.

I find it pretentious and shallow to judge someone based on their musical taste. If that's all you have to hang onto, if that's going to be the deciding factor, then you probably need to look at yourself, not your SO.
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Old 01-20-2005, 08:49 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Well, it's nice if you have similar taste in music. But it's not a huge deal to me.

New Years Eve I was with my boyfriend in a bar and the first Counting Crows album was being played. Now, I love them. So I mentioned as much. My boyfriend? Doesn't so much like them... So I played around with the "I don't even know you anymore. We're totally breaking up." WhileI don't quite get how people couldn't like Counting Crows, its not a big deal to me. Now, if he hated Dashboard Confessional, we might have some issues
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Old 01-20-2005, 08:59 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Wow, there sure are some music nazi's on this forum.. How about this: hating gay people is the same as hating people based on their music preferences, and it's very narrow minded.

I like everything and I respect everyone's tastes in music. There are some styles that I like more than others, and definitely some bands that I like more than others, but I don't diss people because their preferences are different than mine. Now, there are some bands/singers that I don't like, but I'm not about to blast someone because they happen to like a band or singer that I don't.

If they want to listen to MTV music, fine with me; I can enjoy that stuff. And if they want to listen to 80's music, that's also fine. I am very open minded when it comes to music, and I can learn to enjoy just about anything.

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Old 01-20-2005, 10:00 AM   #67 (permalink)
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it matters a lot for a significant other to be into music as much as I am. it may not necessarily be the kind of music *I* personally listen to, and I'm always open to new things (except country...). But for me, the passion has to be there and a good indicator of that is if they like music. Music is an artform, an expression, and I think the kinds of music people like says a lot about them.

Even better still, is the ability to play music. I've dated all musicians, exlcuding one guy who was really "into" music (1,000+ of cds and records). To me, music is a lifeblood. It's only natural for me to be into someone who feels the same way.
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Old 01-20-2005, 11:18 AM   #68 (permalink)
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I like a very narrow range of music (punk and ska, mostly, some celtic), but I couldn't care less if my girlfriend does. Music is fun and all, but I listen to it in the car, on my bike, or while doing something else around the house. If my girlfriend doesn't like what I do, that's fine--I'll put on headphones.

I guess I would kind of prefer that she like something interesting, though. My last girlfriend was a huge Tori Amos fan, and although I personally can't stand Tori, I liked that she at least liked something different and fairly unique. But if she listened to Ashlee Simpson, that'd be fine too--I might make fun of her about it, but only a little, and that'd be that.

Interestingly, I randomly met someone that listed the EXACT SAME favorite bands that I have, including the Phenomenauts (I pretty much thought my brother and I were their only fans) and also was into Battle Royale (crazy Japanese horror film in which a class of 7th graders are forced to kill one another). I don't even know her personality well enough to know if I'll like her, but the fact that we have so much in common is kind of... off-putting.

Weird, eh?
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Old 01-20-2005, 07:07 PM   #69 (permalink)
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I think it's very important....I can tell what kind of person someone (and level of overall intelligence) is by the music and movies that they like.
I agree, although my SO has turned me of to some serious and amazing jazz. However, there are certain bands, songs and/or riffs that only a select few really understand and that is a huge turn on for me. I think music is very personal and a good indicator of great things to come. Or cum. Whatever.
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Old 01-20-2005, 07:14 PM   #70 (permalink)
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I saw a whole buncha lovely ladies at the Pink Floyd Laser spectacular I went to last weekend...I wanted to run up and kiss all of them....or at least give em a little hug or sumfin. Wonder if they were there cause they like the Floyd or because of the cool lasers? Hope it was the Floyd

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Old 01-20-2005, 07:15 PM   #71 (permalink)
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music taste doesn't really matter to me at all. I listen to all kinds of music, and I really don't care about what other people listen to.
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Old 01-20-2005, 07:52 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Man, if I ever met a woman who had the same musical tastes as me...

I would cry.

I have seriously shitty taste in music. Everything that I like, I really like, but I can't explain why. There are huge swaths of music that I put off-limits to myself just so I don't end up liking something that is utterly dispicible (when Britney is no longer popular, I'll have to have a listen and see if I end up liking her *shudder*). Right now, in my playlist is: Clint Mansell - Requieum For A Dream (soundtrack), Russian Choral Music - Music of the Passion, Jonny Cash - When The Man Comes Around, Eric Clapton - Blues, Pi (the soundtrack), The Katamari Damacy soundtrack, And Camille Saint-Saens - Symphony No 3

Some of my favorite bands include Aqua, Anton Karas (soundtrack for The Third Man), Camille Saint-Saens, Cornershop, Ella Fitzgerald, Elvis, Eric Clapton, The sountrack from Ome Henk (in Danish, so I don't understand the words), Indigo Swing, Modest Mouse, Nirvana, Some random Phillipino Disco I found, Squirrel Nut Zippers and the Vince Guaraldi Trio.

Should I ever run in to someone that likes that set of music, I would probably cry, for their sake. That is one messed up cookie right there.

My girlfriend however, hates 90% of the music I listen to (she has much better taste than I do), but, since the car stereo is in my control, she listens to what I want (*evil laugh*).
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Hmm you got some really good stuff in there man don't be ashamed of it.

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Old 01-22-2005, 05:00 PM   #74 (permalink)
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You don't have bad taste, just different taste. I love when someone turns me on to a style of music or artist that I would never have listened to before. and as time goes by I find that stuff I used to avoid sounds better now. It's all relative.
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Old 01-22-2005, 07:11 PM   #75 (permalink)
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I don't mind if a girl who has different tastes in music but she also must be open to different kinds of music including my music. Having an open mind if key.
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Old 01-22-2005, 10:18 PM   #76 (permalink)
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That is an excellent song. I've always been fond of his take on "La Vie en Rose" (I hope I spelled that right )

Anyway, It's not a big deal to me as I'm open to all types of music. While there is some types of music that make my teeth hurt, I'm a pretty easy going guy. I won't hold it against her if that's what she likes.

Music can be very personal and sometimes a SO insulting your music is like she's insulting you. While I can't expect a woman to dig the same kind of music I dig, I can expect her to have an open mind about it.

I mean, it would be different if everytime you had a disagreement about a song she kept playing "but it sucks" card. That might be an issue, but different tastes? Absolutely not.

As much as I might relish the idea of "guthmund sans penis," in reality, it would be quite boring, no?
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Old 01-23-2005, 06:56 AM   #77 (permalink)
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In my personal opinion the kind of music a person listens to is an indicator of the kind of person they are (or are more likely to be). By this I do not mean that one can judge a person's intelligence level by the music they listen to but rather that people are influenced by the music at some level or another.

Therefore, someone who listens to hardcore rock full of hateful lyrics (especially white supremacist hatecore lyrics) is more likely than not to commit hate crimes and be a Neo-Nazi or Ku Klux Klansman. In the same fashion, someone who listens to music that constantly calls women bitches and hos is likely to be a womanizer or talk to women as though they're nothing more than sex objects.

Therefore, before I'd ever marry someone I'd pay very close attention to the kind of music they listen to.
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Old 01-23-2005, 10:57 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by doncalypso
In my personal opinion the kind of music a person listens to is an indicator of the kind of person they are (or are more likely to be). By this I do not mean that one can judge a person's intelligence level by the music they listen to but rather that people are influenced by the music at some level or another.

Therefore, someone who listens to hardcore rock full of hateful lyrics (especially white supremacist hatecore lyrics) is more likely than not to commit hate crimes and be a Neo-Nazi or Ku Klux Klansman. In the same fashion, someone who listens to music that constantly calls women bitches and hos is likely to be a womanizer or talk to women as though they're nothing more than sex objects.

Therefore, before I'd ever marry someone I'd pay very close attention to the kind of music they listen to.

If that's not judging a book by it's cover, then I don't know what is.
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