BooRadley

Nice argument.

In general, women are more afraid of rejection than men. And they never experience it to the degree that men will.

As everyone else has said, women have all the power in relationships. They don't have to experience rejection as long as they don't ask people out. They are in a far superior position as long as they are choosing.

Its that simple.

Rubyee

You are right, it wasn't the best arguement.

And it isn't personal at all, but I don't think that is true at all. I don't think the difference in chromosomes determines how afraid you are of rejection, or to what degree you experience it.

I think it has more to do with the fact that in the past, women were supposed to wait on the guys to ask them out, and we have not completely come out of that era yet.

I am sure a lot of people will back me up on this, too. Women get rejected and have their feelings hurt just as much as guys do, and I don't think that they are necessarilly any more or less afraid of it due to a vagina.

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BooRadley

I don't know. In my experience, women are generally more emotional than men. It is just one of the fundamental differences between women and men. Nothing sexist about it.

I think you are dead on there. That goes a long way towards explanation.

Kajiro

Hmmm, seems I've pretty lucky, I've had 2 girls ask me out this year. First one I turned down, (don't worry, ladies, I did it as gently as possible.) Poor thing was literally shaking. She thought I'd turn her down and not want to be friends with her anymore. She never even hinted at it before then though, which was odd.

ConsoleMaster

I'm a guy and I'm going to speak for all the women. Yes, let me decide for you. You are shy.

Geezes. Another useless thread. I like how us humans like to think using one path to explain the nature of all specific sex or in short, we like to be general. Well, it seems that law isn't true. If you think otherwise, I think it's time for a new world order.

EVIDENT

I feel your pain man.

When I was your age (damn, now I'm souding old - I'm only 21) I was in your exact sitution. I hadn't dated or even kissed a girl for that matter. I wasn't ugly or anything like that, I just didn't have any confidence.

Here's what you should do:
Think of your closest (non-relaitive preferbally ) female friend. Start hanging out with her, get comfortable with females. They don't bite (I'm not being condesiding when I say that, though it may sound like it).

Don't lead this chick on- just hang out together, because once your more confident you might want to use your newfound confidence elsewhere. Once you've been around her for a while you will start to become more confident around most other girls.

While you're at this read the guide from www.fastseduction.com
*** Just a warning though, this information is pretty much geared to "how to get a girl in bed". I don't neccassarly agree with it all. Don't take it all to heart, it's allot of manipulation and mind-fucking techniques. It is good for one thing though: building your confidence.

Good luck, I wish you well.

~evident

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skier

rejection doesn't just come from guys denying girls when they ask them out. It comes in all shapes and sizes from failed interviews to bitchy friends. Saying that women can't take rejection, that they are somehow "innocent, fragile" creatures is bullshit.
Guys that are confident and go talk to girls get rejected hundreds of times. It only doesn't hurt because we realize that there is nothing to lose by this rejection and so much to gain. It is not any different with females- if you go ask a guy out, and he rejects you, go talk to another guy. It's not life scarring or traumatic unless your twisted psyche forces you to believe that it is.
Women are not more emotional than men. It's just socially acceptable for women to show their emotion. Get over yourself. Women are not special, they are not better, and even not much different than men.

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Anomaly_

I don't agree with this at all. Women and men are very different. We are equal under law (or should be), but there are inherent differences that cannot be simply cast aside with political correctness. I think women tend to show more emotion because that's who they are, not because of socialization. Certainly society plays a role, but not to the degree you suggest. The latter half of this (semi-hijacked) thread really belongs in the Coming Together forum. Recognizing differences in the sexes, instead of refuting them angrily, is key to communication.

FFT

I'm getting asked out as I type this, and the girl's even offering to pay my way, but I'm refusing. So maybe I'm a bad person, but she lives too far away and I don't want to get into a relationship of any kind with her.

The crazy drug-dealing ex that's currently in jail for violating a restraining order isn't helping her out much either.

AfterBurn

this is from my experiences and observations so this may not be accurate since i'm still in college. If you're a good looking guy then for sure a girl will ask you out. i have a friend who works out almost everyday, takes care of himself etc and everytime we hang out at a bar or club or something i usually see at least 1 girl coming up to him and talking to him and stuff. for me i've noticied that some girls make eye contact with me and generally seem interested in me (unless i'm dilusional) but they never approach me or anything for the most part.

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sheepab

Ive never had to ask a girl out really.

Ever. Seriously.

shannon

i've only ever asked guys out. some have accepted, some have not. but the one i'm with now said yes. generally i think i did most of the asking because i tend to have a thing for shy guys, and i'm too impatient to wait for them, that's just stupid. maybe guys seem to do more asking because most guys aren't really shy. they are taught to be assertive and women are taught to be more passive (in general, i'm not saying that everyone goes with it)

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