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shafedog · 02-15-2004, 07:04 PM

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Male + Female using contraception = no babies.

Humans are the only animals that use contraception.

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By your logic, if not having kids is what makes homosexuality deviant, then if you've ever used a condom you're equaly as deviant as a homosexual, and equally deviant as a pedophile.

If you'd like to use that in leiu of something a bit stronger, than yes, we would all be as devient as pedophiles unless we didn't use contraceptives with our heterosexual mates.

phredgreen · 02-15-2004, 07:07 PM

shafedog.

so far, all you've done is rattle off your own personal beliefs and baited others by quoting and repsonding on a very basic level that is almost completely devoid of logic.

before you post your next reply, i want you to actually spend a little time letting us know what your beleifs are and why you feel the way you do... so far all you've done is spout ideoligies, now back them up with some kind of reason behind it or kindly stfu.

filtherton · 02-15-2004, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by shafedog
Humans are the only animals that use contraception.

If you'd like to use that in leiu of something a bit stronger, than yes, we would all be as devient as pedophiles unless we didn't use contraceptives with our heterosexual mates.

So you could reframe your original question in terms of "Should contraception be considered more "okay" than pedophilia"?

Interesting question. I think you prabably already know the answer.

SVT01Cobra · 02-15-2004, 07:08 PM

The fact of the matter is Homosexuality is more okay, simply because of the fact that if a man has sex with a man, he hurts NO ONE.

Whereas, if a pedophile acts on it, he causes significant psychological damage to the child, and can potentially ruin the rest of their lives.

THAT is what makes the two different.

shafedog · 02-15-2004, 07:09 PM

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Are you saying that it is the cause, or just that you believe it is?

I think it is the most likely cause I've heard of.

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if it is the latter it would compare just as closely to depression and alcoholism as it would to pedophilia.

True for endogenous depression, however I would disagree for alcoholism at some level.

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I mean if it is just a "dysfunction of the mind" how is it any different from a gambling addiction?

Dysfunction of the brain.

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To try to claim that there is no important difference between pedophilia and homosexuality because you could speculatively attribute their causes to dysfunctions of the brain is like claiming that there is no difference between an apple and an orange because they both grow on trees.

I think there is an important difference at some level.

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I noticed you abandoned your deviant argument. What's next?

What devient argument? Just because I don't want to play semantic leapfrog with you all night long doesn't mean there was an argument to begin with.

shafedog · 02-15-2004, 07:13 PM

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before you post your next reply, i want you to actually spend a little time letting us know what your beleifs are and why you feel the way you do... so far all you've done is spout ideoligies, now back them up with some kind of reason behind it or kindly stfu.

Honestly, for being put up on a cross for merely questioning homosexuality, I'm a little hesitant to get more personal. If you do not wish to participate in this, I would not be adverse to it.

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So you could reframe your original question in terms of "Should contraception be considered more "okay" than pedophilia"?

It would not be on the same level.

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The fact of the matter is Homosexuality is more okay, simply because of the fact that if a man has sex with a man, he hurts NO ONE.

Whereas, if a pedophile acts on it, he causes significant psychological damage to the child, and can potentially ruin the rest of their lives.

THAT is what makes the two different.

Okay, but now that I've gone back and edited the original post, perhaps you could reconsider.

phredgreen · 02-15-2004, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by shafedog
Honestly, for being put up on a cross for merely questioning homosexuality, I'm a little hesitant to get more personal. If you do not wish to participate in this, I would not be adverse to it.

if you're not willing to make a basis for your case, then this isn't a discussion but merely a one-sided argument.

thread closed.

bermuDa · 02-15-2004, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by shafedog
Dysfunction of the brain.

are you suggesting that homosexuality is a chemical imbalance?

edit: damnit.

Halx · 02-15-2004, 07:33 PM

so basicly all we're doing is gay bashing?

02-15-2004, 07:07 PM	#42 (permalink)
phredgreen who? Location: the phoenix metro	shafedog. so far, all you've done is rattle off your own personal beliefs and baited others by quoting and repsonding on a very basic level that is almost completely devoid of logic. before you post your next reply, i want you to actually spend a little time letting us know what your beleifs are and why you feel the way you do... so far all you've done is spout ideoligies, now back them up with some kind of reason behind it or kindly stfu. __________________ My country is the world, and my religion is to do good. - Thomas Paine

02-15-2004, 07:33 PM	#49 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	so basicly all we're doing is gay bashing? __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

02-15-2004, 07:08 PM	#44 (permalink)
SVT01Cobra Psycho Location: Somewhere, Missouri	The fact of the matter is Homosexuality is more okay, simply because of the fact that if a man has sex with a man, he hurts NO ONE. Whereas, if a pedophile acts on it, he causes significant psychological damage to the child, and can potentially ruin the rest of their lives. THAT is what makes the two different.