Sleepyjack

Today i had a rather enlightening experience (well for me ). I was walking back from getting my regular IC (iced coffee) at about 1:30pm and i found myself walking behind someone. When i was walking, i was sorta looking at the ground intially, i first noticed that person's butt (as usual )

first thought was "oh yeah" (like an approval of it's goodness )
and then next i look up further and realise it was a guy, and i was immediatley detered. Anyway, i osrta continued back to work, uneffected by the experience. Although i was thinking a bit afterwards, how there's lots of guys with pretty good asses i mean simply as a relatively tight bit of flesh, they're generally pretty good. I don't know how i noticed this or come to the realisation
I think it's sorta related to the upside-down triangle shape, which guys upper bodies assume. So they're narrower near the waistline, hence tight butt

Now this next bit, is quite narcissitic, but i don't think it's as bad as it sounds? it's not like a fret over this stuff or anything, i think everyone does it to a degree anyway?
OK, so later on, i went to take a piss. Now, in the toilets at work, they have a mirror on the side you can look at. As i was going i was sorta looking at myself (here's the narcissism ). ANyway, things quickly got to what i was thinking about before and i was looking at my ass (through my shorts ). It then got a little further and i was feeling it now this was not sexual at all! well not for my own pleasure, BUT i was thinking that if (god bless it ) my ass was on a chick (albeit, wiothout the excess hair ), it would be pretty good. That probably sounds really bad and fucked up and all, although when you reduce it just to a bit of flesh, rather than a guys or girls ass, they really are quite similar, if not the same?

With this thought, of how SOMETIMES male and female body parts are sorta equilivant, it's weird that maybe?, small things get in the way and deny us more pleasure?

For instance, getting rid of all the other emotional stuff and putting sex down to just pleasure and a means of feeling good (which is generally the reason we have sex anyway) you'd think that if you got past that it's a guy (from a guy's point of view atm), how different is it, to getting a blowjob from a girl? or even a whole host of other sex acts.

Be it kissing, anal sex, handjobs/fingering or sometimes feeling other body parts which are erogenous and on both sexs (like butts, feet or something?).
I've heard stories of where transexuals end up getting with guys, and the pleasure is all good, until the transexual gets his dick out and then suddenly it's no fun anymore?

So if you could, sorta approach sex, with a non-the-wiser attitude, maybe you could attain more pleasure from more people? or just generally open things and oppurtunities up alot more?

It seems that still, it's cool for females to be more bi-curious and try things out with either sex (somewhere people think it's cool and it's encourage by males, or females have less judgemental fears, or 'cause they don't hvae much testostorone...or whatever? i don't really know ), whereas males, maybe still sub-sonciously attach with a fear of gay stigma or some other testostorone condtition about their manhood, that they're less willing to experiment with it.

When ultimately, i think, if you get past that it's a guy (which probably is a pretty a big step, something that i probably couldn't get over anyway, despite myself wrinting this? hypercritical...yes ) then you could still attain a lot of sexual pleasure. I am not trying to justify homosexuals or anything, cause there is nothing to justify, moreso just pointing out, that a lot of things normal heterosexual guys could do with girls, could also be done with other guys, and it isn't that different from if it was a girl. My case in point again, is some stories i've heard over confused and mistaken transexuals.
Basically, a final question. If you were blindfolded and a girl performed oral sex on you and then later on a guy did. I don't think you really couldn't tell the difference?
same as if you're into anal sex, and you had anal sex with a girl and then guy, you couldn't really tell the difference. So i find it interesting, that we sometimes deny this avenue of pleasure?

Albeit, i am not really into one night thingies anyway, even with girls, nor care for a sorta of romantic/emotional thing with a guy (girls are much better at that ) anyway, but this is just a general observation, thought i had today. Which interested me, so i thought i'd share it?

ok, i feel a little vulnerable after writing this, so if you're going to say something stupid or jokingly, it's probably better left unsaid, cause i might take it the wrong way in my vulnerable state

junglistic

I dont know about you, but I will put a $1000 bet if you put my girls ass, beside a guys, you will be able to tell the difference.

The male body is purpose built. The female body is a thing of beauty.

I could write a book on how incredible the female form is, but ill leave that for another day.

Sleepyjack

hmmm, i doubt you could through pants so much?
pants make it look different

Also, that doesn't answer my other questions otherwise?

If a guy blew you and you were blind folded you could not feel the difference between a guy's outh and tongue and a girls!
that's for sure. Even though i've never had a guy down there before, i can assume

Although i guess it's hard to imagine sex without a visual element, as it is very much part of the act. So probably the best example is what i was saying before, about how guys hvae been fooled and pleasured by transexual/transvestites before, so a lot of things you can't rtell the difference.

Although, yeah i defintley agre with you about the general shape of a guy compare to the girl, as it's utilatarian VS Beauty (in my eyes) but breaking it down into smaller components (if you can do that anyway) there's not much difference between some things?

Sparhawk

I totally do not buy into the "men have the utilitarian body, while women have the beautiful body".

For one thing, it's a crappy negative outlook. For another, it's just plain wrong. Women have more utilitarian bodies than men: their bodies carry babies, and nurse their young. That's two more 'utilities' than men can vouch for.

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la petite moi

Let's see...well, all I have to say is that sex is between two people that truly want to share themselves. I totally believe in monogamous relationships.

As for the bum thing- sometimes people are just more 'masculine' or 'feminine' than others.

Jedbeck

Oh yeah??? Well I can pee standing up!!!! So There!

hehehe

World's King

What happens when sex is simplified down to basic components?


You're married.

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Sleepyjack

Yeah i see what you mean, i guess the main thing though are penises. I mean they're just dangling there whereas females are a lot more "tidy" (lack of a better word ) in that respect. Also, more generalisation, guys bodies are normally a lot harder and muscular compared to woman who are nice and soft and a little squishy
So yeah, i guess that utilitarian statement is a bit of a crock, albeit woman look better so that's how and what we say. PLus men are generally the guys who do the heavy liftin and other labourious mechanical jobs, as they're more muscular. I think basically it comes down to the unattractive penis thing (dangling *cringe*) and just they're generally more muscular and muscles = good for doing stuff.
Although those are some pretty nice generalisations, so of course they don't really hold up that well. As women are just as capable of doing heavy lift etc. But that's generqally the finer points of it?

I guess it's coming down to what is art or what is attractive for you?

edit: also, i have enough muscles for myself. If there's too many (and too big) on a girl...eh not good...

Boo

"Boys have a Penis, Girls have a Vagina"

There are many body types, some men have girlish figures and likewise.

Don't even think about telling my penis thats he is unattractive either. Him is sooo cute. He wants cuddled.

The most fragile thing in the world is a mans ego. WOOF!

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Sleepyjack

Yes! good point.
Almost every guy wants to be "the man", even myself
That's what testostorone does to you....

Although i think this is getting a bit away from topic now.
Basically, i was thinking, that if a guy performed oral sex on you (you being another guy), you wouldn't be able to tell the difference?

Jizz-Fritter

This question is the whole premise behind BaitBus.com, you pick a guy up off the street, have a woman in the van seduce him, he puts blindfold on, and a gay guy sitting in the back seat comes up and blows him. When the receiver really gets into it, they take the blind fold off. Oops!

That is also the purpose of glory holes. Straight men put their cocks through a hole in the stall wall, so that they can get sucked without seeing that a guy is doing it.

This also reminds me of the controversy behind gay marriage. When people are openly against it, I ask them two questions, "Did you know that there are actually five genders? Do you love your wife, or do you love her vagina?"

When love is concerned, gender is an afterthought. Haven't yall seen that "Jerry" episode where some guy wants to marry his girlfriend on the show, when it turns out that she is a man? My favorite line from that episode was when the shemale said, "Yes, I pleased him in my hallway."

If all you want to do is get your nut off, you can chose from all sexes, because they will all satisfy your needs. And the myth is true: guys suck better than girls.