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LaughinMon · 10-05-2003, 10:08 AM

i know there was a previous post on this but it was about a shot to the balls which seemed to turn off most of the guys that replied to the post. However I found the following:

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SEATTLE, Oct. 1 — Forty-year-old Scott Hardin says he’s glad that men may soon have a new choice when it comes to birth control. But, he adds, he would not even consider taking a male hormonal contraceptive. Hardin is like many men who are pleased to hear they may have a new option but are wary of taking any type of hormones.
“I WOULD rather rely on a solution that doesn’t involving medicating myself and the problems women have had with hormone therapy doesn’t make me anxious to want to sign on to taking a hormone-type therapy,” says Hardin, who is single and a college administrator.
For the first time, a safe, effective and reversible hormonal male contraceptive appears to be within reach. Several formulations are expected to become commercially available within the near future. Men may soon have the options of a daily pill to be taken orally, a patch or gel to be applied to the skin, an injection given every three months or an implant placed under the skin every 12 months, according to Seattle researchers.
“It largely depends on how funding continues. The technology is there. We know how it would work,” says Dr. Andrea Coviello, who is helping to test several male contraceptives at the Population Center for Research in Reproduction at the University of Washington in Seattle.
Coviello and her colleagues have found that a male contraceptive that releases testosterone over three months is potentially a safe and practical method of contraception. The Seattle researchers have been testing a sustained-released, testosterone micro-capsule, which consists of a thick liquid administered by injection under the skin.
“I never had any real noticeable side effects. I didn’t notice any mood changes. I may have put on a little weight,” says Larry Setlow, a 39-year-old computer programmer with a small software company in Seattle. He has taken part in three male hormonal contraceptive clinical trials at the University of Washington and has received both pills and injections.
“They all worked really well and I was able to look at my lab results and see my sperm count drop to zero,” says Setlow.
Women have had the option of a safe, effective and reversible form of contraception since the development of the female oral contraceptive pill in the 1960s.
Female contraceptives use hormones, estrogens and progestins, to shut off the release of eggs to prevent pregnancy. Male hormonal contraceptives work pretty much the same way: hormones, such as testosterone and progestins, are used to turn off sperm production.
“It seemed like I was getting headaches and then there were times when I woke up sweating at night and I had to change my shirt. Other than that, I didn’t have any side effects,” says 45-year-old Quentin Brown, who lives in Los Angeles and has been a volunteer in a study of MHCs at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center in Torrance, Calif.
Brown has been taking hormonal contraceptives for more than a year. He reports no problems with weight gain or acne, two side effects that occurred in earlier versions of MHCs tested in the 1990s.
Brown, who is married and has three children, hopes his kids will one day be able to benefit from the new technology. His would like his son, who is now 17, to one day have the option of taking a male birth control pill. Brown believes many men will see “their pill” as a good idea and will want to use it.
“It is time for men to have some control. I think it would empower men and deter some women out there from their nefarious plans,” says Brown. “Some women are out there to use men to get pregnant. This could deter women from doing this. An athlete or a singer is someone who could be a target and they could put a stop to that.”
Studies conducted by the World Health Organization show that men from many countries around the world would welcome MHCs. The WHO has tested MHCs in hundreds of volunteers in various countries around the world and have not found it difficult to recruit volunteers for their studies. Researchers say many men are very willing to become involved in the studies and are anxious to see a male birth control pill on the market.
Over the past 5 years, researchers around the world have had a great deal of success with male contraceptive pills, patches, implants and creams that deliver various amounts of hormones. It is now believed that an MHC in the form of a daily pill could be available on the market within 5 to 7 years and implants could arrive even sooner.
“An injectible or an implant (similar to Norplant for women) will be the first to be approved. The big studies are now under way,” says Dr. Christina Wang, who is heading up the clinical trials of MHCs at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center.
She and her colleagues have found that a combination of progestin and androgen implants are safe, effective, inexpensive and entirely reversible.
The California researchers have tested several different products in hundreds of men and are also collaborating with investigators in China. A Chinese clinical trial is now under way at 10 different sites across China and includes 1,000 men. The Phase III trial involves a single injection given once every month. Wang hopes to start a similar trial in the United States within the next 2 years.
“We are trying to find the best combination with the least amount of side effects and then the least amount of medication that may be required to get the maximum effects,” says Wang.
Wang adds that in some countries, a low-cost, reversible and long-acting form of an MHC could become commercially available within the next 3 years. However, she says it will probably be at least 5 years before one is approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
Interestingly, Wang says there is now greater interest in this technology than there ever was in the past and there is now more funding available worldwide than ever before.
But will men take it? Some say yes, some say only if their partners make them, and other say they would never even consider it.

taken from http://www.msnbc.com/news/954083.asp?
so what do you think? pills, patches, gels, creams as opposed to a shot to the nads?

Matrix2023 · 10-05-2003, 10:13 AM

Let’s face it. If we took anything that supposedly made us sterile, and we told the woman that, she would just laugh in our face and tell us to put a condom on. They wouldn't trust us, and it is their body that's at risk of getting pregnant. They only believe it when they are taking the pill themselves. So why fight it, just leave the non visual protection on the lady's side of the fence.

Harshaw · 10-05-2003, 10:17 AM

If it was something that had been out for 20 years or so, I would be very interested. I'm just not interested in being an early adopter in this area. I'll stick to saran wrap.

LaughinMon · 10-05-2003, 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by Matrix2023
Let’s face it. If we took anything that supposedly made us sterile, and we told the woman that, she would just laugh in our face and tell us to put a condom on. They wouldn't trust us, and it is their body that's at risk of getting pregnant. They only believe it when they are taking the pill themselves. So why fight it, just leave the non visual protection on the lady's side of the fence.

you forget that no birthcontrol is 100% except abstinence. even though no sperm = no pregnancy, it probably still isnt 100%. but the point is its better to use more then one form of birth control to reduce the chance of pregnancy to very slim. condoms are still good for std's as the other mentioned contraceptives dont protect against that. but saying that the non visual protection should be the sole responsibility of the lady's is just being foolish and ignorant. it takes two to tango and it is the responsibility of both parties. id say that the majority of unwanted pregnancies resulted because the male thought it was entirely the female's job to prevent pregnancy, which explains why alot of males think its the woman's fault that "they got pregnant"

bermuDa · 10-05-2003, 10:39 AM

LOL, saran wrap

the implant sounds like an interesting idea, depending on how small and easy (ie quick and painless) it is to install... I guess my preference would be the longest term possible, in which case I'd rather have the scrotal shot. I sure as hell don't want kids now, I'm just not sure when that might change. Ten years is a long time. A yearly treatment would be like an annual renewal of my conviction that I don't want kids just yet, but if i ever change my mind it wouldn't be too long of a wait. (and that year would give me a chance to completely think things through; I want to be absolutely sure I want a kid before I make the effort).

lurkette · 10-05-2003, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Matrix2023
Let’s face it. If we took anything that supposedly made us sterile, and we told the woman that, she would just laugh in our face and tell us to put a condom on. They wouldn't trust us, and it is their body that's at risk of getting pregnant. They only believe it when they are taking the pill themselves. So why fight it, just leave the non visual protection on the lady's side of the fence.

There are more than a few of us out here in long-term relationships who *ahem* actually do trust our partners. I've been on the pill for 12 years, and I'm getting a little tired of being on it, and these men who whine about possible side effects are SO wussy. They're annoying at best, and so far they've fallen largely on the heads (and uteruses and thighs and abdomens) of women. It's about damn time there's a non-barrier, non-surgical reversible method for men who are men enough to take responsibility for birth control.

Neato · 10-05-2003, 01:39 PM

God, amen lurkette. I'd happily do any of these, even the shot. I've never had any use for birth control at this point in my life, because... well come on the reason is obvious. But it's always been an important thought in my mind, and I don't understand why guys DON'T take more responsibility for birth control. It's silly. Being a straight women has to be HELL. Guys totally suck. I, being a straight male, get the best group to pick from.

arcane · 10-05-2003, 08:32 PM

even if the only option was to take a shot to the nuts i would totally do it. i'd do about anything to assure myself of no "accidents". and like if i was on the shot, and my girlfriend (if i had one) was on the pill, then that would be super effective.

arch13 · 10-05-2003, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by Harshaw
....I'll stick to saran wrap.

Ok, I couldn't help but laugh when i read that!

JStrider · 10-06-2003, 07:36 AM

i posted the other male contraceptive one...

id prolly want to go with the easiest/longest term one... and since they all are sposed to be reversable... id prolly go with the shot or the implant... im not all that great at remembering pills...

blade02 · 10-06-2003, 07:46 AM

Im confused...at the begining of the article they mention something about it being non hormal...then at the end they say it is hormonal. So which one is it? I know the shot isnt hormonal, which i thought was cool, the idea of messing with chemical balances doesnt sound fun (yeh, i know you girls go through it, but if we dont have to then Im not going to.) But it sounds like the pill/implant stuff is hormonal. Am I wrong?

Neato · 10-06-2003, 08:16 AM

No, I think you misread. It says that guys are not too keen on the idea of taking hormones to stop their sperm.

blade02 · 10-06-2003, 03:49 PM

yeh, i just re-read it. Looks like Im in the boat of guys that dont like chemicals/hormones being messed around with.

meff · 10-07-2003, 03:34 PM

Shot??! Ain't no needles gettin near my guys

10-05-2003, 10:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Harshaw Is mad at you. Location: Bored in Sacramento	If it was something that had been out for 20 years or so, I would be very interested. I'm just not interested in being an early adopter in this area. I'll stick to saran wrap. __________________ This too shall pass.

10-05-2003, 10:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
bermuDa don't ignore this--> Location: CA	LOL, saran wrap the implant sounds like an interesting idea, depending on how small and easy (ie quick and painless) it is to install... I guess my preference would be the longest term possible, in which case I'd rather have the scrotal shot. I sure as hell don't want kids now, I'm just not sure when that might change. Ten years is a long time. A yearly treatment would be like an annual renewal of my conviction that I don't want kids just yet, but if i ever change my mind it wouldn't be too long of a wait. (and that year would give me a chance to completely think things through; I want to be absolutely sure I want a kid before I make the effort). __________________ I am the very model of a moderator gentleman.

10-05-2003, 08:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
arcane Insane Location: SLC, UT	even if the only option was to take a shot to the nuts i would totally do it. i'd do about anything to assure myself of no "accidents". and like if i was on the shot, and my girlfriend (if i had one) was on the pill, then that would be super effective. __________________ <Arcane> so if you banged 2000 chicks then at least one had a pen0r?

10-06-2003, 07:36 AM	#10 (permalink)
JStrider Poo-tee-weet? Location: The Woodlands, TX	i posted the other male contraceptive one... id prolly want to go with the easiest/longest term one... and since they all are sposed to be reversable... id prolly go with the shot or the implant... im not all that great at remembering pills... __________________ -=JStrider=- ~Clatto Verata Nicto

10-07-2003, 03:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
meff Vanishing, like I do.. Location: Austin, TX	Shot??! Ain't no needles gettin near my guys __________________ Toy-like people make me boy-like.

10-05-2003, 10:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
Matrix2023 Upright Location: Mars	Let’s face it. If we took anything that supposedly made us sterile, and we told the woman that, she would just laugh in our face and tell us to put a condom on. They wouldn't trust us, and it is their body that's at risk of getting pregnant. They only believe it when they are taking the pill themselves. So why fight it, just leave the non visual protection on the lady's side of the fence.

10-05-2003, 01:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
Neato Insane Location: The Oposite, Inverse of Hell (Wisconsin)	God, amen lurkette. I'd happily do any of these, even the shot. I've never had any use for birth control at this point in my life, because... well come on the reason is obvious. But it's always been an important thought in my mind, and I don't understand why guys DON'T take more responsibility for birth control. It's silly. Being a straight women has to be HELL. Guys totally suck. I, being a straight male, get the best group to pick from.

10-06-2003, 07:46 AM	#11 (permalink)
blade02 Insane	Im confused...at the begining of the article they mention something about it being non hormal...then at the end they say it is hormonal. So which one is it? I know the shot isnt hormonal, which i thought was cool, the idea of messing with chemical balances doesnt sound fun (yeh, i know you girls go through it, but if we dont have to then Im not going to.) But it sounds like the pill/implant stuff is hormonal. Am I wrong?

10-06-2003, 08:16 AM	#12 (permalink)
Neato Insane Location: The Oposite, Inverse of Hell (Wisconsin)	No, I think you misread. It says that guys are not too keen on the idea of taking hormones to stop their sperm.

10-06-2003, 03:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
blade02 Insane	yeh, i just re-read it. Looks like Im in the boat of guys that dont like chemicals/hormones being messed around with.