Milnoc

For those who haven't read the Penn & Teller circumcision thread recently, I've indicated that I'm currently restoring my foreskin. I don't have any feelings of inadequacy with my current state; everything works fine and I can achieve plenty of satisfaction with what I have. But I've always been curious as to how it feels to have "a hoodie on my woody", and decided this year to experiment on myself.

My only problem is that being circumcised, I have no idea what are the variation of sensations that an intact man actually feels down there. I don't have the frame of reference needed to properly judge my restoration progress. So I'd like to ask the uncut men here to describe the sensitivity of specific areas of your penis, namely:

- The tip of the foreskin (only when flaccid),
- The frenulum,
- The inner foreskin layer,
- The ridged band,
- And the glans.

A lot of the anti circumcision lobbies keep pointing out the incredible number of nerve endings that are lost through circumcision, targeting mainly the areas I've just listed above. But do all these extra nerve endings actually translate into increased sexual stimulation and satisfaction? For example, can you get aroused by stimulating only a single one of these areas? Or do you need to stimulate a combination of areas to achieve proper satisfaction? Are there parts that are hyper sensitive and others that feel as if they're inert? Just how many variations exist out there?

I'm not interested in debating the physical, psychological or moral issues of circumcision. I'm only interested in studying the general sensitivity of the intact penis for now.

PlanG

- The tip of the foreskin (only when flaccid), Kinda ticklish, not noticeable unless you touch it though or are touched
- The frenulum, If licked it is an absolutely epic tingle
- The inner foreskin layer, no real feelings
- The ridged band, Sensitive, but not massively so
- And the glans. very sensitive on the top side particularly.

Fotzlid

How can they answer that unless they have recently been clipped? There is nothing for them to compare it too.

miko

So how do you make something out of nothing? Grafting skin from another part of you?

Milnoc

Surgical techniques do exist, but they're not at all recommended. The grafted skin doesn't have the same colour or texture as the shaft skin, and the procedure, recovery times, results and costs are a real nightmare.

The non surgical procedure I'm trying is nothing more than simple skin stretching using T-Tapes made out of 2" 3M Micropore tape. It's just a specially constructed tape wrapped around my shaft positioned near the circumcision scar. The end of the tape forms a tube and is clamped to a suspender clip attached to an elastic band. All that's required is about 10 ounces of tension to encourage the existing skin to stretch out and grow new skin cells. After a year or two of daily twelve hour stretching sessions, apparently you can reconstruct a new foreskin that's so lifelike that it could even fool your own doctor. Of course, that's left to be proven.

You have to start somewhere. I'm simply trying to gather enough information so I can make a reasonable and impartial assessment of my personal progress in the coming months, and possibly help others follow their own progress if they decide to go through with the restoration procedure. If there are any men out there who were circumcised as adults after they've become sexually active, and can provide an impartial assessment of the changes they've experienced, I'm ready to hear from them too.

PlanG, thanks for the info!

savmesom11

ewww a penis with a turtle neck, call me a foolish American but I don't wanna see one that hasn't been clipped!

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Martian

I'm just glad I've never gotten naked with a woman who's so narrow-minded as that.

As noted by Fotzlid, it's difficult to make a comparison, since I've never experienced living without a foreskin. In reference to your specific questions, I will provide my experiences:

- The tip of the foreskin (only when flaccid),
Not noticeably sensitive. I don't really think of it in terms of my foreskin specifically; it's no more or less sensitive than surrounding tissue.

- The frenulum,
Highly sensitive, especially when erect. As noted by PlanG, can be a source of very intense sensation during oral sex.

- The inner foreskin layer,
Sensitive, but agan no more so than any other tissue in the general region

- The ridged band, And the glans.
Also both sensitive, but whether more or less so than for circumsized men I can't say.

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Ustwo

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/week...estoration.php

Studies on Russian Jews who were uncircumcised, moved to Israel and then voluntarily underwent the procedure as an adult were either no change or an improvement in their sexual satisfaction after being circumcised. This topic has come up twice so if you want references you will have to search for those threads.

Anyways if there is anything special about the foreskin, I don't think simply stretching it like the foreskin restoration crowd seems to do will do anything special for sensitivity.

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Milnoc

Actually Ustwo, seeing how the two current respondents are so similar has already revealed some interesting info. The anti-circ crowd keeps insisting the foreskin has thousands of erogenous nerve cells, often pointing out the sensitivity of the tip of the foreskin, the inner foreskin layer, and the ridged band, which is why I asked for info on those areas. But as was reported by those two respondents, those areas are no more sensitive than the rest of the surrounding skin, and don't appear to contribute much to sexual gratification.

The head and frenulum however are a different story. I actually have the same sensations! My glans reacts very well to stimulation although it has been desensitized a bit when I switched from briefs to boxers many years ago. The underwear acted as a proxy foreskin, reducing the rubbing. When I had to switch to boxers (the leg elastics caused trouble), it took me a couple of months for the glans to finally stop sending persistent signals to my brain! "CUT IT OUT!!!"

I was loosely circumcised at birth. As a consequence, I still have almost all of my frenulum. It may no longer be as functional (intact males who have undergone frenoplasty would probably understand this), but it's definitely sensitive! When properly moistened, it's a fantastic feeling! So already, I'm not all that different from intact men.

As for russian jews circumcised in Israel experiencing increased sexual satisfaction, that might have been temporary since their glans is now permanently exposed and has to adapt to its new environment, similar to my experience when I switched underwear styles. Has any follow-up research been done on that study a few months after the circumcisions?

If I were to make a guess as to what will happen to me in the upcoming months once I'm fully "covered", I believe the frenulum will increase a bit in sensitivity, then stabilize very close to its original sensitivity once my brain has readjusted its internal "volume control". The glans may recover its original sensitivity like when I used to wear briefs, and then some. But my glans can behave in a very bizarre manner at times even in its current uncovered "desensitized" state. After climaxing during oral sex, EVERY NERVE IN THE GLANS FIRES UP FULL BLAST!!! That's when I have to BEG the girl to please stop! Will it behave in the same manner once I'm restored? Will I hit the ceiling? Or will I build up a tolerance? Who knows?

Eventually, I'll have to ask circumcised men a few pointed questions to determine how much sensitivity they MAY have lost depending on how tightly they were circumcised and how much original tissue was removed.

Martian, thanks for the info!

Savemesome11, don't worry. I'll never show you my new turtleneck.

Shaindra

Why?

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savmesom11

Your all right that was very narrow minded of me and very immature I might add. Ignorance of something different is normally a very unacceptable trait to me so I apologize and come to think about it would be horrified to hear a man say something like, "I would never want to see a chick nekkid who's had children and has stretch marks." I was having a bad day that still is no excuse, again I am sorry.

I have been told that delicate care must be taken to ensure you are properly clean and therefor not prone to infection but maybe this is a myth? I know that circumcision is really becoming an alternative procedure as health insurance programs are no longer automatically paying for it unless it is for religious reasons.

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Milnoc

Apology accepted.

Washing instructions: retract, lather, rinse, recover (not repeat ).

As for insurance coverage, only one province in Canada still includes non-therapeutic circumcisions in its universal health care plan. And even if you decide to pay for it yourself, you still have to find a doctor who'll do it, or a religion that supports it. Therapeutic circumcisions are still covered nationwide since they definitely have a useful purpose for individuals whose foreskin start causing severe problems later in life.

evilbeefchan

Thank you Milnoc for being so open and honest with your experience. I'm in line with Martian and PlanG, the tip of the foreskin itself isn't particularly more sensitive than the surrounding skin (specifically when flaccid). The inner foreskin layer when flaccid has a bit of sensitivity, but this is probably because it's been protected from any constant friction. This applies to the band as well. The Frenulum and the glans is where all the noticable sensitivity is at. For me, the top of the glans, as well as the underside connecting to the frenulum seem to be the most sensitive. When flaccid, the top can be kinda uncomfortable, but not so with blood flowing. For some reason, I've only had "positive" sensitivity with my frenulum. I can't say I've ever had an experience where the frenulum was sensitive to the point of being uncomfortable, but then again, the only real time it's touched would be during sex or in the shower (and I have never understood why people think it's so difficult to clean). But seriously, I love my frenulum friend.

Milnoc

I can just see you break out in song during a children's show...

There's a good reason for me to go public with this. People will be less inclined to look at you funny if they already know what you're doing. It's incredible how many "Hunh? What?" reactions are generated by the subject matter even though it's probably the simplest and safest body modification a man can perform onto himself. By going public, I'm hoping to demystify the subject. I might even turn it into a documentary for my upcoming TV channel (Google my alias to discover who I am).

Thanks for the info!

Yep, there's definitely a pattern here. Three different individuals, three identical responses. All three of them contrary to the claims of both pro and anti circ lobby groups. We've been fed bullshit for way too long.

Nimetic

The main sensitive bit is the the glans.

The foreskin is not particularly sensitive... I mean... it's more sensitive than my back or elbow for sure (and I'm sure that there's nerve endings), but not sensitive like the protected skin underneath. Unless it's caught in a zip... that hurts for sure.

I think... that for sex - both the shaft and glans need to be stimulated. For me. That's my quick summary ok.

Kaimi

For one I must state that it is incredibly hot to imagine a guy begging his partner to stop. That is not really why I am replying though, does it feel particularly uncomfortable? Are you able to move past that, "Please Stop" moment and enjoy the rest of the ride? I am wondering if it compares to the sensation a female would experience upon receiving a g-spot orgasm for the first time. Call me curious, I cannot help but to ask. I have met several males in the past who regretted that their parents made the choice for them to be circumcised.

As far as Savemesome11 goes, I suspect that she, like I have not had an experience with an intact male. I do wonder what differences that poses to females. I have no idea if it would make much difference, or if somehow sex is approached differently in some way. I consider myself fairly knowledgeable in the bedroom, this is one area where I am completely ignorant.

Martian

What's being described here is hypersensitivity, and it's not isolated to circumsized men. You may think it's hot, but the guy experiencing it almost certainly does not. During this time further stimulation becomes highly uncomfortable or even painful.

Naturally I have never experienced sex as a circumcised male, however I feel confident in stating that the mechanics are broadly similar. If anything, a circumcised man is forced to proceed more slowly, as attempts at penetration without sufficient lubrication can lead to tearing of the foreskin or frenulum, which I assure you is not the slightest bit comfortable. This is, so far as I'm aware, the only part of the experience that changes.

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Ustwo

As a circumcised male I can tell you that sensation is not limited to those who are uncircumcised. The wife and I even have a name for it.

It feels very good and very uncomfortable at the same time.

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Milnoc

One thing's for sure. When I say "please stop", I mean it! It's EXTREMELY uncomfortable for me, and does closely resembles pain.

And I'm the one who's suppose to have the desensitized glans here!

The rule is if your guy says to stop, please stop. Give him at least a couple of minutes for the hypersensitivity to subside before attempting to stimulate him again. He really does need a break.

westernn

Sooo I'm new to the forums, hello! This thread is intriguing to me because I actually joined looking for information about getting it up and what is different for not being uncircumcised.

I had sex for the first time last Monday and again with a different partner on Thursday. Both times were memorable but both times I couldn’t quite get a full hard on like when i masturbate... It was a disappointment, but I read a forum on here saying it could be first time troubles. Even tho i felt completely relaxed and ready to go.

I did feel that with my skin back I was less sensitive. Like I’ve always masturbated with my foreskin as a "lube?" idk but I use it. Now I'm am going to try things like slowing down and masturbating with my "turtle neck"

Any other tips would be appreciated.

Milnoc

Westernn, if you're using condoms (God I hope you are...), try adding some lube around the sulcus (the gap between the glans and the shaft) and on the frenulum. The lube will help increase stimulation. You'll need to try different amounts to get it just right. But once you find the sweet spot, it could be so close to wearing nothing at all that you won't mind using rubbers with all of your sexual partners (which is definitely a lot safer).

Also, make sure the condom is the right size. It should fit snugly without any bagginess, pinching or choking. If it's too loose, it could slip off. If it's too tight, it WILL dramatically reduce sensitivity! I personally discovered the "tight" part "the hard way..."

Fire

was circumcised at 12,(almost 13) for religious reasons, and before that had been wanking it like a spider monkey for at least two years- sorry to burst the bubble, but there is not any notable difference in the strength of orgasm, before and after- the tip of the penis was somewhat more sensitive before, but not enough to make a large difference- my take is that people will always wonder, and as much of sex is in the mind, it may well make a difference for them.....

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Milnoc

Fire, that's pretty interesting. The only stories you hear about circumcisions later in life are the ones that favour either the pro or anti circumcision lobbies (miracle procedure or horror story). It's near impossible to find an impartial account of the experience. And in your case, it appeared to be consentual based on your very neutral response to the issue.

A quick progress report.

It's been three months since I've started the restoration, and there are definite signs of progress. It's now very easy to pull the growing skin just over the corona. In fact, under certain conditions, the skin will roll over the corona by itself for brief periods of time. As far as changes in sexual response are concerned, aside from the presence of loose skin, nothing has changed.

Shaindra

Not really the original topic, but I will say that as a woman, the post-marathon session irritation is significantly less with an intact guy. A bonus in my book!

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evilbeefchan

I wonder if it's possible to do a reverse of your experiment. Keeping the foreskin pulled back and seeing if the head of the penis becomes "desensitized?"

ASU2003

It is. Just use some medical tape to hold the skin back for a few days. I would recommend shaving the hair in that area first. The first day or two may be uncomfortable, but that is the sensitivity that is lost.

Milnoc

Don't the Japanese do that to gain a "circumcised" look without the mess?

Also, do note the loss of sensitivity is not permanent. All I have to do to "change my feeling" is switch underwear styles.

Crack

Fore is More! That should be our chant!

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