Cyborg Ninja

Please realize this. God, how many times have I seen younger guys equate the two. Pussy is not vagina, vulva is not vagina, etc. It's not even acceptable slang because it's still WRONG. And the funny thing is, once I tried to tell some dumb kids on a board this and they were stupefied.

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World's King

Okay.

So, please explain the difference.

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Menoman

I think it's commonly accepted slang that pussy = the thing you fuck.

It's not like slang is necessarily supposed to explain scientific physiology of what it's directed at.

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Willravel

pussy = female reproductive organ
vagina = tubular tract

LoganSnake

Pretty much. Pussy is a slang for vagina. Not the part of it, but the whole thing. And it's not just younger guys.

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fish_oinc

OK so what is a cunt

Willravel

Same as pussy, but even more derogatory.

Frosstbyte

I cannot imagine the distinction you're trying to make. How, exactly, do you define the two to have such totally disparate meanings and why does it bother you so much that people conflate them?

duskytip

As long as people are people, they will take the simple and make it complex.

highthief

Where does "snatch" fit into the equation?

BTW, Frosstbyte, kudos for using the word "conflate" in casual conversation!

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mixedmedia

It's only derogatory if it's used in a derogatory (ie, hateful) way.

I like both words.

snatch is good, too

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ra211

Whatever word you use, we picture the same thing

World's King

Rosie O'Donnell

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Psycho Dad

Then what is Hillary Clinton?

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World's King

I heterosexual Cunt.

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mixedmedia

these are good examples of the words being used in a bad way.

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Jinn

This thread is going absolutely nowhere unless Cyborg comes back and explains himself.

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Baraka_Guru

Once Bush is removed, we'll be seeing a lot of that Cunt.

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DaveOrion

CN is a woman....do really think a guy would start a thread like this???

Then please explain to me why during the Vagina Monologues, all the above terms were used to describe "vaginae" in general......???

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Challah

Because the Vagina Monologues is a jok... because in using slang with enthusiasm, monologuers attempt to reclaim derogatory terms. At least that's how it was explained to me by someone who took part.

Infinite_Loser

I thought pussy was slang for cat. And CN is a girl, FYI.

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Aladdin Sane

Clever.

Pussy, cunt, vag, va-jj, coochie-- it's all the same beautiful girl part to me. Call it what you will, it's still what makes the world go 'round.

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Baraka_Guru

My understanding is that a vagina is the passage area, whereas a pussy is the whole kitten caboodle (i.e. vulva/vagina).

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Aladdin Sane

Ma Man you are technically correct, but it matters not in the world of slang. Look at it this way: Remember when bad was the new good? Well, now vagina is officially the new pussy.

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Baraka_Guru

Whatever. All I know is that I've got to get me some.

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kel

While we're at it, the phrase is "kit and caboodle" not kitten caboodle.

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Baraka_Guru

It was a forced pun.

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telekinetic

I love people who start threads stating a 'fact' that is contrary to what is commonly accepted, (usually "Just so you know..." or "FYI") without providing any explanation or references.

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DaveOrion

Agreed, while technically the vagina is the muscular canal extending from the uterus to the exterior of the body, AKA the birth canal. It is also a generic term for pussy.....uh, I mean twat.........or, muff, slit, quim, snatch, cooter, beaver, poontang, coochie, hair pie, bearded clam, honey pot, fur burger, fuzzy taco, cunt, snatch......to name a few.....

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Cyborg Ninja

That's funny, considering most of the people in this thread know and stated what "vagina" in fact means. Do I need to explain to you every anatomical part? Do I need to explain what a "bone" is if some people refer it to their dick? This is what happens when you have abstinence-only education, people.

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Infinite_Loser

I'm sure there was a point being made here, but I missed it.

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Menoman

This is a case of 'pick your fight' and you picked a silly one. Do you think there is something a little less whimsical to attempt to remove from the worlds vocabulary?

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inBOIL

You forgot poontang, snizz, and cooter.

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blahblah454

All I know is this thread is giving my a tingly sensation in my pants and makes me want to get me some.

Frosstbyte

I think what most of us aren't getting is the question of why this matters, not that from an exceedingly linguistic perspective you are, I suppose, correct. Pussy is slang and is really only used in contexts where it makes essentially no difference to what exact part of the female genitalia it refers whether that be interior or exterior. There's no meaningful difference between the words for purposes of usage, since no doctor is ever going to talk about a patient's "pussy" and that's really the only time that any distinction between the two words would ever have any impact.

Your point leaves most of us hanging because we're unable to see why making sure everyone knows exactly what these two words refer to in exacting terms makes a difference, and some random dig on abstinence-only education does little to illuminate your OP.

analog

It doesn't matter what the opening post is like, many of you are just being unfriendly and borderline mean. Is that the sort of TFP you like to represent to people?

As for the opening post, I agree with Frosstbyte. ^

Menoman

I've pointed that out about 10 times before, it gets you no where really :\

Except you are a 'name' around these parts, maybe you'll have a better time of making people realize. Good luck though.

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telekinetic

OK, what I don't understand (and what you have still yet to define) is what body part do YOU use 'pussy' to refer to? It's not exactly a medical term. I get the impression you use 'pussy' to refer to the vulva...why do you assume that other people are using it to refer to the same?

If someone says "I want to put my dick in your pussy", then clearly they are using pussy in that context to refer to the vagina.

If someone says, "I can see your pussy!" then unless there is some serious spreading going on, they're using it to mean vulva.

How are either of these 'wrong'? Your vague reference to abstinence only education doesn't clarify your point.

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Plan9

Pussy is the female gender, too.

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