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pinkie · 04-21-2007, 01:46 PM

Nah... I've never found any that were my type.

yosho · 04-29-2007, 11:53 PM

while beastiality isn't socially acceptable, it's hard to find a really good convincing argument on why it's wrong.

I just took a class on social psych and this issue came up, the professor's argument was that a lot of things that we find morally unacceptable rarely have good logical reasons as to why they're unnacceptable.

You could argue that having sex with an animal is wrong because there's no consent, however, we don't give consent when we kill animals for food and I'm sure an animal would rather have sex than die.

If you say that we kill because we need to eat, that's not true because there are numerous vegitarians out there that don't eat meat to survive and therefore, killing animals is no longer a basic need.

It has also been shown that some animals seem to enjoy having sex with humans, or at least they don't seem to mind, therefore is it really wrong?

There's no good logical foundation on why it's wrong...the same could be said about incest, sure, it may produce bad offspring, but what if both partners had their tubes tied? and pregancy had 0% chance of occuring? Well, that's another topic I won't get into here, but it does make you think.

I'm just playing devils advocate here for the sake of discussion, i personally would never have sex with an animal, i just think it's gross.

Sticky · 05-04-2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by yosho

while beastiality isn't socially acceptable, it's hard to find a really good convincing argument on why it's wrong.

No convincing argument why it is wrong? None?
Here is one:
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squeeeb · 05-04-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by yosho

while beastiality isn't socially acceptable, it's hard to find a really good convincing argument on why it's wrong.

well, since the animal might not be truly willing and can't tell you if it's not, technically it's not consentual, and therefore it would be rape.

yosho · 05-04-2007, 10:10 PM

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well, since the animal might not be truly willing and can't tell you if it's not, technically it's not consentual, and therefore it would be rape.

read my entire post, i addressed that argument, we don't have consent when we kill animals, why have consent for sex?

Sharon · 05-05-2007, 04:43 AM

Do you think animals sit around debating whether sex with humans is wrong?

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Originally Posted by yosho

read my entire post, i addressed that argument, we don't have consent when we kill animals, why have consent for sex?

Leaving aside the morality of killing animals, the killing argument is irrelevant to the question of whether sex with an animal is rape or not.

Rape is sex without consent, so if an animal is unable to give consent, then sex with it is technically rape.

Reese · 05-05-2007, 03:01 PM

It's an animal it doesnt have the right to consent. If it did, owning a work horse or racing a greyhound would be considered slavery. Since it's called adopting an animal, maybe it should be called child abuse. That being said, I think there should be some concern about the person that does participate in this kind of activity.

tenniels · 05-06-2007, 06:35 PM

I think that's animal abuse. But I do recall hearing something about AIDS being traced back to a human/animal (I think it was some sort of monkey or something they said) sex. So I guess that's the consequence right? You fuck with something you're not supposed to, a new disease is born. I mean now of course AIDS is anyone's disease, but pretty crazy that that is how it originated (assuming what I had heard is correct).

ratbastid · 05-06-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tenniels

But I do recall hearing something about AIDS being traced back to a human/animal (I think it was some sort of monkey or something they said) sex. So I guess that's the consequence right? You fuck with something you're not supposed to, a new disease is born. I mean now of course AIDS is anyone's disease, but pretty crazy that that is how it originated (assuming what I had heard is correct).

The truth about the origin of AIDS isn't nearly so clear-cut.It's generally believed that HIV is a direct decedent of SIV, Simian Immunodeficiency Virus, but it most likely made the species jump by human consumption of infected animals. The inter-species sex theory of the origin of AIDS is really nothing more than a schoolyard myth.

tenniels · 05-06-2007, 08:18 PM

Oh I never meant for it to sound that what I was saying was concrete fact. I only stated it as something I heard and had only brought it up as sort of just another reason why human/animal sex would be wrong. Thank you for posting something more correct, I just wanted to clarify that I had never meant for what I said to be taken as fact or that I thought it was indeed fact. Thanks!

Dilbert1234567 · 05-06-2007, 08:34 PM

I've heard similar logic used to say 2 men should not be together.

04-29-2007, 11:53 PM	#82 (permalink)
yosho Upright Location: Cornell U	while beastiality isn't socially acceptable, it's hard to find a really good convincing argument on why it's wrong. I just took a class on social psych and this issue came up, the professor's argument was that a lot of things that we find morally unacceptable rarely have good logical reasons as to why they're unnacceptable. You could argue that having sex with an animal is wrong because there's no consent, however, we don't give consent when we kill animals for food and I'm sure an animal would rather have sex than die. If you say that we kill because we need to eat, that's not true because there are numerous vegitarians out there that don't eat meat to survive and therefore, killing animals is no longer a basic need. It has also been shown that some animals seem to enjoy having sex with humans, or at least they don't seem to mind, therefore is it really wrong? There's no good logical foundation on why it's wrong...the same could be said about incest, sure, it may produce bad offspring, but what if both partners had their tubes tied? and pregancy had 0% chance of occuring? Well, that's another topic I won't get into here, but it does make you think. I'm just playing devils advocate here for the sake of discussion, i personally would never have sex with an animal, i just think it's gross. __________________ mm...sex is fun

05-05-2007, 03:01 PM	#87 (permalink)
Reese Delicious	It's an animal it doesnt have the right to consent. If it did, owning a work horse or racing a greyhound would be considered slavery. Since it's called adopting an animal, maybe it should be called child abuse. That being said, I think there should be some concern about the person that does participate in this kind of activity. __________________ “It is better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick” - Dave Barry

05-06-2007, 06:35 PM	#88 (permalink)
tenniels Insane Location: Oh Canada!!	I think that's animal abuse. But I do recall hearing something about AIDS being traced back to a human/animal (I think it was some sort of monkey or something they said) sex. So I guess that's the consequence right? You fuck with something you're not supposed to, a new disease is born. I mean now of course AIDS is anyone's disease, but pretty crazy that that is how it originated (assuming what I had heard is correct). __________________ I like things. And stuff. But I prefer to have things over stuff.

05-06-2007, 08:18 PM	#90 (permalink)
tenniels Insane Location: Oh Canada!!	Oh I never meant for it to sound that what I was saying was concrete fact. I only stated it as something I heard and had only brought it up as sort of just another reason why human/animal sex would be wrong. Thank you for posting something more correct, I just wanted to clarify that I had never meant for what I said to be taken as fact or that I thought it was indeed fact. Thanks! __________________ I like things. And stuff. But I prefer to have things over stuff.

05-06-2007, 08:34 PM	#91 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567 Devils Cabana Boy Location: Central Coast CA	I've heard similar logic used to say 2 men should not be together. __________________ Donate Blood! "Love is not finding the perfect person, but learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." -Sam Keen

04-21-2007, 01:46 PM	#81 (permalink)
pinkie Helplessly hoping Location: Above the stars	Nah... I've never found any that were my type.