Sharon

Rebecca Loos (who became famous by virtue of her affair with David Beckham) was shown on a reality television show jacking off a pig. Where does this lie on the morality scale?

ngdawg

Seems to me the 'pig' label was in question.....doesn't say much for her interest in Beckman either.
Personally, on the morality scale, it's in negative digits...

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CaliLivChick

Is it wrong that I think this bunny is soooo cute?

So I'm curious... the fact that we were curious enough about the contents of this thread based on the title to click on it... what were you thinking you would find here?

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Infinite_Loser

I had hoped someone would admit to having sex with an animal, if only for amusement purposes.

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CptAJ

I was referring to animal-dependent sports in general, not fighting in particular. I'm sorry, I should have made that more clear. And yes, its illegal here too, although barely enforced like many things. I already mentioned the matter of lesions to the animal in the previous posts. The sexual act would not generate these lesions as long as the animal is big enough, so the animal fights comparison is not exactly fair. But even still, horse racing submits the animal to more lesions and pain than any sexual act would.

The alcohol/cannabis comparison was directed at the unfounded legality of both matters (even though bestiality is not legislated against in some places), which is at this point the only thing I'm arguing here I guess. I think you misunderstood what I was trying to convey... And I already explained that the line is drawn way before we ever reach natural humans, no matter how defective they are. So mentally challenged folk would be considered human, and rightly so.

Sorry for the misunderstandings, I'll try to explain myself better in the future.

PS: I too had expected to hear amusing tales of inter-species sex. I thought "damn, this place is way more open minded than I thought".

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ngdawg

Well, some guys I've dated could be considered another species..just not sure of their classifications...
I have been called 'piranha', 'daddy long-legs' and a dog....so guess either way someone was having interspecies relations here...

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Dilbert1234567

i think there is a good story behind the first 2... would you be so kind as to share?

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ngdawg

Not good stories, I was teased. "Piranha" for my very crooked teeth; "Daddy Long-legs" for my out-of-synch long legs. I think the real animals were those insensitive apes....

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Dilbert1234567

now I'm curious about your out of sync legs...

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Sharon

Those ads are creepy.

ngdawg

5'6" at the time with 3ft legs(can we say 'gangly'?)....I grew a bit after high school
Damn, talk about a threadjack!! *makes a sharp left to be back on the road*

Dogs humping legs is something people see as merely 'sex', but it's not sex to a dog, it's either an attempt to control the person they're humping(specially when they attach to a visitor-it's a 'I'm the boss here, buster' action) or it's done out of frustration. A friend had a female Pekinese that would hump a pillow whenever there was company in her house. First she'd tear at it, swinging it around, then she'd mount it.
CaptJ-in horseracing, those 'whips' aren't strong enough to do physical damage to a horse's hide. In rodeo's however, in order to get a horse to buck, its genitals are tied tightly with a leather strap. That was not always the case-'unbroken' horses used to be used, but could only be ridden for so long before they'd just get used to it and stop bucking. Horses have been 'domesticated' for hundreds of years, bred for their particular usage; racehorses are no exception to that and any legitimate stable would be stupid to be abusive toward its animals and those that have, whether through physical means or chemical have been prosecuted and tossed out of the industry. New Jersey(where I live) is a huge horseracing/breeding state and I can attest to the mostly exemplary 'lifestyle' those animals live.

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StanT

Love the ads.

I've dated some pretty wild women, married one of them; but I draw the line at the same species.

Ourcrazymodern?

We're all animals.

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Willy

Sorry but this is nothing but PETA propaganda. The flank cinch (or bucking cinch) is not tied around a horse's genitals. Horse's genitals are pulled inside their body when they aren't being "used". All bucking horses are mares or geldings, and there's no possible way that the cinch could do any damage to the horse's genitals. Bucking horses are trained to buck when they have the cinch on.

I think bestiality is illegal more because it's weird or gross than because it is cruel to animals, at least most animals. Obviously some animals could be injured by someone penetrating them, but "jerking off a pig" is something veterinarians do every day for the purpose of artificial insemination and they also apply the result to the female hogs. Pregnancy testing in cattle is done by sticking your arm 2 feet up a cow's rectum and either feeling around with your hand or using an ultrasound probe, and the cows don't get particularly upset about that, so I doubt they would care much about someone having sex with them.

Not trying to advocate bestiality at ALL here, but I also wouldn't particularly consider it animal abuse as long as the animal isn't being hurt, at least in the case of the average farm animal.

talkowacko

Bestiality!! hmmm
Get a signed consent from that animal.

Dilbert1234567

koko wasn't signing kitten.

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ASU2003

This is why I missed TFP so much when I was gone...

Do you think that sex with other species moves evolution forward or creates new viri (virises)? It takes a horse and a donkey to make a mule. Now what would happen if all the horses and donkeys died, but the mules were able to adapt and survive (and reproduce)? How would we figure out that two animals of similar, but different species created a third?

Or you get AIDS which is similar to SIV in monkeys. What other diseases are there that are dormat in different species, but harmful to our own?

It does seem a little out there, but there does seem to some of it on-line. I remember going to a frat house in college and they were watching that horse video, and it is burned into my mind. And no, it wasn't wearing a condom. Eww.

I used to believe that the donkey show was just a joke, but after what I saw last Friday night, I'm not sure what to believe anymore.

ShadowFox

I'm furry. Does that count?

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Sharon

Is a letter of consent with an inky paw-print at the end suitable?

Ourcrazymodern?

Does anybody know a good therapist?

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biznatch

You guys might wanna watch Clerks II.

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"How many of you feel like animals tonight?"

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talkowacko

Sure only if you can read it.

BlackKittyKat

I'm an animal Black Kitty Kat!

NAGAII

Well done, M'am, Well done! "Cougars" are indeed the most exquisite...and desirable...of the species.

May I compliment you on your wonderful sense of humor?

Jetée

Well, who doesn't enjoy the hunting of cougars, and the frenzy that would inevitably ensue afterwards.

It almost makes me want to give up on my affection for foxes, chicks, and...Oh, yes... pussies.

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A_Redthorn

As an interesting side-note... odd semi-philosophical argument in favor of bestiality someone came up with once.... (and I say this as a point of interest, and something to think about, not suggesting anyone take this as reason to go find the nearest sheep. I, like most posters above, find the idea at worst disgusting and at best, a joke I feel guilty about laughing about, but laugh anyway)

Most people are generally ok with the idea of masturbation... which is basically simulated sex, no? Can't get what we want, so we fake it.
And as if hands, soft, warm flesh of our own within arm's reach, weren't good enough... there are toys.
Some of them in shapes that help the simulation, some soft and fleshy, some vibrate, some are even molds of real people. All to make a better simulation.

That said, isn't bestiality just better masturbation? After all, what's a better simulation than a fake, soft, fleshy latex organ, but a soft, fleshy, flesh organ? It's taking the simulation as far as it can go, as close as it can get to the real thing without.... quite.... getting there.

The guy went from there to apply the same argument to homosexuality, being gay himself. Don't know why.... but... yeah.

biznatch

Well, he's not the type of philosopher I'd base my lifestyle on....

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Dilbert1234567

not even a chuckle out of you guys?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_%2...#Koko.27s_cats

turns out koko wanted pussy, not a kitten.

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The_Jazz

Yeah, you had me up to the bestiality point. Let's remember that animals are alive. What you do with your hand is one thing. What you do with another living breathing thing against its will is something else.

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I can't follow simple instructions.

mixedmedia

I'm a cougar? What the.....

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CaliLivChick

*leaps on mixedmedia like a sex-crazed beastiophile

I could be wrong (not sure what the age bracket is for cougars), but you don't look old enough to be a cougar. Hot and sexy, yes, cougar, not sure.

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This thread NEEDS this video. http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/17687

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Redlemon

Oh yeah, that Bill O'Rights is a hot one. Keep hitting on him.

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mixedmedia

Okay, I had to go and look up the slang usage of the word "cougar."

Of which, I most certainly am not. Thank you.

In fact, I prefer older men. So there. Jazz.

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Dilbert1234567

even dogs need lovin:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/h...ogs-253334.php

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Crack

ya know... I think the one thing a thread about sex with animals DOES NOT NEED is a video...

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Crack

this breaks my heart.

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cyklone

There are countries in the world in which it is not illegal. Saudi for instance and maybe New Zealand (sorry, Australian joke there ) Perhaps the reason for not doing it lies not just in animal rights, as there are very few countries in the world which acknowledge these, but also in the fallout for the community if it became a commonly accepted thing.