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Old 02-25-2007, 03:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Autoerotic Asphyxiation

I searched this on TFP and came up with nothing.

We were watching Six Feet Under (rerun) the other night. Someone always dies in the beginning of the show. Well, the guy the other night died of autoerotic asphyxiation.

Erotic asphyxiation, asphyxiophilia, breath control play, or scarfing, is the potentially lethal practice of intentionally reducing the amount of oxygen to the brain during sexual stimulation in order to heighten the received pleasure from orgasm.

Has anyone ever tried this? I can't imagine my orgasm feeling any better than it already does!! LOL I have no interest in ever trying it. I was just curious to hear what every thinks or has experienced.
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Old 02-25-2007, 03:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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we do it all the time, and the difference in the orgasm is nite and day...dont really know how to describe the difference though.

We are very careful when we do it and dont use "objects" just our hands
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Old 02-25-2007, 05:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Just hold your breath. I have practiced it enough that by holding your breath I can orgasm faster, or by breathing, I can last a little longer. It might not be the same as blacking out or choking yourself, but the concept of holding your breath right before orgasm and then breathing right when it hits does seem to increase the rush.
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I remember reading in wikipedia under unusual deaths the amount of people who'd died from it and thinking 'what in the fuck could be worth that'.
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Old 02-25-2007, 11:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Lots of people think there's a "right" or "safe" way to do it, that won't "cause harm". Truth is, you chance death each and every time you do it.

If I die because of an orgasm, it'll be when i'm old and go naturally, not because of something as stupid as this practice.
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Old 02-25-2007, 11:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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This was the defense in the 'Preppie Murder' in NY in the 80's; they'd used a scarf. It supposedly also was the reason the lead singer of INXS hung himself-self gratification with autoerotic asphyxiation.
Shani and Dave know each other well enough, I should think, to be able to have total control and the fact that they don't use props ala scarves or ropes is a plus, of course. Covering your partner's face with a hand would seem to me to be perfectly safe; I don't know about holding the throat, though-someone grabbed mine momentarily at, shall we say, the 'height of passion' and I thought 'WTF'? They backed off from going further(whether consciously or not) and it wasn't discussed afterwards, but I doubt strongly I'd have agreed to it.
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Lots of people think there's a "right" or "safe" way to do it, that won't "cause harm". Truth is, you chance death each and every time you do it.

If I die because of an orgasm, it'll be when i'm old and go naturally, not because of something as stupid as this practice.



Making this statement I think comes dangerously close to trolling, or at the least antagonizing and pushing the limits of TFP rules against insulting other peoples preferences.

There always is an inherent risk in ANYTHING that people do in every day life. People have the right to practice whatever they wish in the privacy of their own bedroom. Those people that practice this need to have some direction and education from those who can help them practice this carefully. If ANYONE can even pay the LEAST amount of attention to what they are doing, this can be done without any permanent harm to their partner. It takes much more than just a thread to describe the proper method to learn this, and every person if different in the amount of this play they can handle. Lets keep this to specific discussions, not insulting someone who has a different sex practice than someone else.
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Old 02-28-2007, 08:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I have never tried it but I'm generally not interested in anything that equates pain or distress with pleasure.

The only situation I have had that may have been close, was when I was having sex with a boyfriend and I was lying facing down with my face on its side on a pillow. Suddenly, through certain movements, I was suddenly actually facing into the pillow, and he was trying to get me to quiet down (as parents were around), so he put his hand over my mouth, and I think it was a full 10 seconds of "oh shit I'm going to suffocate" before he realised I wasn't ok and released me. It was a very short time but as I really could not breathe at all for that time and was being kind of forced down, I was really scared and panicking, and sexual pleasure was definitely no longer in my thoughts, all I thought in the moment was - oh my god I can't breathe and if he doesn't realise fast I'm going to die.

I have never felt anything like it and I hated every second.

So I strongly doubt that I could ever enjoy anything like that. I'm not programmed that way.

I can understand why some people are able to endure and even enjoy it. I expect it must be a mixture of self-control, and the "thrill" of feeling yourself almost "die" and linking that with orgasm, which feels like...being reborn? Well you guys will all have your own ideas on what it feels like but I'm sure everyone will agree that orgasms are pretty wondrous things - not in the sense that they are amazing, but that they are almost alien...
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Old 02-28-2007, 09:21 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 02-28-2007, 09:35 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Cutting off oxygen to the brain makes orgasm feel better. I'm not sure of the physiology behind this. However, it's why some people sniff rush Rush (butyl nitrate, amyl nitrate) or whippets (nitrous oxide), these chemicals deprive the brain of oxygen (by taking its place) and you get a rush. If you time it during orgasm ... the results are ... wow.
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Old 02-28-2007, 09:35 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Lots of people think there's a "right" or "safe" way to do it, that won't "cause harm". Truth is, you chance death each and every time you do it.

If I die because of an orgasm, it'll be when i'm old and go naturally, not because of something as stupid as this practice.

hmmmm... well, actually there is a "right" way to do this. If that wasn't true, myself or Topper would have been dead years ago when we started enjoying it from time to time in our sexual pleasure

We only use hands, the one time we tried an actual prop, we spent so much time focusing on being careful that we weren't able to enjoy ourselves and it killed the mood.

IF you are interested in adding this to your sex life:
Always important to have a "safe action" aka, same as a safe word. For instance the partner who is having their breath restricted will put their hand up when they've had enough. Without a safe action, without knowing your partner extremely well and having an immense amount of trust, this is Not something I would recommend.

Some people find this kind of play sinister I think. But for us, it's not, we find it erotic and if we're in the mood, it can really add to our connection.
However, I will say... I think, for some individuals out there, there is a sinister drive behind it, I read of one couple where the male partner would do it until his gf passed out... That is completely inappropriate and not at all in the confines of this erotic play, it is meant as heightening connection, not forcing your will onto your partner.

If I were casually dating someone, would I engage in this kind of play? absolutely not. However, having known Topper for 11 years and been married for almost 5, I trust him implicitly, as he does me.

Trust and attention to safety are the two main things I would focus on if you're pondering using this in your sex life.
That being said... if done properly... the orgasm you get from it will blow your fucking mind...... seriously, it is amazing. Topper has had similar results with it

aka... don't knock it until you try it analog

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Old 02-28-2007, 10:47 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I can honestly say in the many many many times we've done this, I've never felt like I was "dying". To me its really not much different from holding your breath. Who knows maybe its the way we do it. Dave doesnt attempt it with me until Im right on the edge so its not like he's got his hand on my throat for more than 25-30 seconds
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